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Scott Jennings Battles Roginsky: Why Is Deported Gang Member’s Life at Risk in El Salvador? Because of ‘a Rival Gang’
ROGINSKY: “And I think that’s the key here, right, because it’s not just about him. If this president and this administration can accuse somebody of being a terrorist, they can accuse any one of us of being a terrorist and do with us what they will. There’s due process that exists in this country for everybody. And the fact that this man had received no due process, it was effectively disappeared to a foreign country, a country which he came from, which he was basically got — he got a asylum.”
JENNINGS: “It’s not a foreign country. He lives there.”
ROGINSKY: “Excuse me. No, he does not live there.”
JENNINGS: “Actually, he’s a citizen of El Salvador.”
ROGINSKY: “Scott, excuse me. He got asylum in this country.”
JENNINGS: “He’s a citizen.”
ROGINSKY: “Scott — “
JENNINGS: “Does he have asylum at, Elie?”
ROGINSKY: “Excuse me, let me finish.”
HONIG: “No, he doesn’t have asylum.”
JENNINGS: “Oh, okay.”
ROGINSKY: No. It’s that he — sorry. It’s not that he got asylum. He got a judge to say that he could not be rendered — “
JENNINGS: “Does he have a deportation order?”
ROGINSKY: “Excuse me, he could not be — can you let me finish? He could not be — he could not be rendered back to El Salvador because he was at risk of being harmed in El Salvador.”
JENNINGS: “By who?”
ROGINSKY: “That is what a federal judge — “
JENNINGS: “By who? No, who was he at risk of?”
ROGINSKY: “Excuse me, that was what a federal judge said.”
JENNINGS: “No. Who’s he at risk of being harmed by? I’m asking you.”
ROGINSKY: “Who could he be at risk by? I don’t know.”
JENNINGS: “A rival gang.”
ROGINSKY: “No, no, no. Excuse me, Scott, excuse me, stop, do you really believe that this guy’s an MS-13 member? Because — “
JENNINGS: “I’ve got two heads of state telling me that they believe it.”
ROGINSKY: “Okay, your heads of state? When Barack Obama said — “
PHILLIP: “Let me address what Scott’s saying because I — maybe, Scott, maybe you are correct. But the venue to litigate that very thing that you just said is in a court. That’s where we should find out is his claim that his life is at risk a real one, one that should prevent him from being deported, or is it not. The problem is that the administration tried to avoid doing any of that and they just took him out of the country. Even though she’s right, Julie is right, there was a hold on his deportation to El Salvador for a reason. The administration has acknowledged that they made a mistake here.”
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