Roger Stone explains the George Bush Connection to JFK Assassination - 3/27 Stephen Gardner Show

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"Stephen Gardner and Roger Stone discuss whether Trump will change the CIA. Did the CIA order the hit on Kennedy. All signs point to President Lyndon B Johnson being behind the assassination. Learn why in The Man Who Killed Kennedy. http://themanwhokilledkennedy.com/ Follow Roger Stone on https://x.com/RogerJStoneJr or got to http://stonezone.com

Roger Stone - The man who killed kennedy. The case against LBJ
JFK, Trump, George Bush Senior
JFK said he wanted to break the CIA up into a million pieces and scatter it to the wind. President Trump has talked about dividing it up and removing certain aspects of the CIA. Do you believe Trump wants to change the CIA and could that put his life in danger
Do we have all the JFK files yet? Because Pam Bondi dropped 80,000 unredacted. Then I read they should another 15,000 at the National Archives.
Jackie kennedy
Cia still defending
People say the CIA was behind killing kennedy. Others say it was the mafia. Still others say it was Israel and I did see a document that asked for Israel to remain redacted. Other say it was still Lee Harvey Oswald and you say President Lindon B Johnson played a role. Let me know where you want to do with this.
Whenever the topic of JFK comes up someone will always tell me George W Bush Senior was involved. I’ve only ever read he said he didn’t know where he was. What can you tell me about him."
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are we being told the truth about JFK we're just finding out there's even more
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documents that none of us knew about to help me go through this and what's going on with Trump and possibly what's going
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on with former President George Bush I have Roger Stone roger thank you for
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joining me stephen great to be with you as always so I want to go through uh the
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JFK files uh some stuff that Donald Trump is doing and then I'm constantly
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asked "How is George Herbert Walker Bush former head of the CIA connected to
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JFK?" Um let let's go through some of this uh JFK famously said something to
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the effect of he wanted to break up the CIA and toss a million pieces to the
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wind during President Trump's first term uh he is notorious for not using the CIA
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as much as other presidents be being very uh leery of them and the product
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that they were producing in the presidential report he's even talked about making changes within the CIA do
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you believe Donald Trump will make changes to the CIA this goound and does
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that put his life in danger well first of all let me say that I think that the JFK disclosures so far
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are both uh inadequate uh and incomplete uh now they did I think uh adhere to the
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very strict uh instructions of President Trump who ordered that everything in the
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JFK assassination document archive be released the problem is that much of the
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material that we need to see to get a fuller picture of what transpired is not
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in that archive in other words there are documents still at the Central Intelligence Agency at the FBI at
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Department of State uh the Department of Defense uh the IRS uh the Secret Service
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uh and so on that were not uh reviewed uh and turned over to the to the
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director of national intelligence there's a number of notable audios that
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are missing for example the first conversation between CIA director John
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McCome and President uh Lynden Johnson immediately after the
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assassination there's neither an audio nor a transcript included at least so
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far and that would be a pivotal conversation uh the the Nicks film Al
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Orville Nicks uh was a man on De Plaza on November 22nd 1963 he was on the
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other side of the uh of De Plaza from Abraham Zapuer the Zaprunner film is
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quite famous but the Nick's film uh which may or may not be exculpatory for
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Oswald uh was seized by the government uh he was filming with an 8 millimeter
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camera but he had a zoom lens and would be able uh theoretically to determine
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whether in fact Kennedy was uh as the recent documentary put out by Paramont
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Plus what the Parkland doctor saw whether Kennedy was indeed shot from the
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front and the back that would of course would be inconsistent with all of the documents that have been released so far
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which seem to have been culled to create the continued impression that Oswald
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shot Kennedy and acted alone as you know I doubt that for a number of reasons but
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most principally because a paraffin test that was conducted on Oswald by the
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Dallas Police Department indicated that he had no powder burns on his chest or
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his arms or his hands or his face had he indeed fired a $26 and therefore
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presumably fairly leaky World War II vintage Italian army carbine he would
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certainly have had nitrate burns on his body he had none uh the uh the number of
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other things that are missing there are oral uh uh interrogatories done with Robert Kennedy senior with Jackie
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Kennedy those have not been released then there is the uh investigation
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conducted by uh Walter Sheridan he worked for Robert F kennedy uh would
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later go to work at NBC uh he conducted his own investigation
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that is thought to include both audios and videos uh as well as uh allegedly a
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substantial amount of information regarding Carlos Marcelo and the uh uh
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and the actions of organized crime in the Kennedy assassination remember Stephen the House Select Committee on
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Assassinations uh formed in the 70s already produced a
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report contradicting the Warren Commission saying that organized crime played a substantial role uh in the
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murder of Kennedy but that has not been reflected in any of the documents that
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we have seen so I I don't think we're getting a full picture of what's going on here and therefore uh what I've seen
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so far seems to be designed to reinforce what I continue to believe is a false
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narrative i.e lee Harvey Oswald a lone nut shot John F kennedy three times all
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from the rear i don't think that's accurate okay um I I've been seeing over
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on X uh there's an audio that came out of President Lyndon B johnson calling uh
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Jackie Kennedy and he's he's somewhat flirtatious hey lady I'm mad at you for
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getting out of DC without coming to see me and I I want to see you after Christmas give you your Christmas
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spanking and she's I I just my understanding is there was not good
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blood between LBJ and JFK he picked him in order to win he was going to drop him
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lbj was actually potentially going to jail for different crimes have you heard
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that audio between he and Jackie Kennedy uh I I have I think that let's give this
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some context uh first of all it's important to recognize the central thesis of my
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2013 New York Times best-selling book The Man Who Killed Kennedy The Case against LBJ makes the case that it was
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LBJ who was the ring leader uh of a of a plot that included the Central
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Intelligence Agency organized crime big Texas oil certain financial interests to
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kill Kennedy each one of those entities had their own specific reason johnson
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has the mo most acute uh motive he is under investigation in the Bobby Baker
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uh and the Billy Salstis investigations baker was uh the secretary of the Senate
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Johnson's right-hand man essentially his bagman uh Billy Salstis was a flamboyant
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Texas Wheeler dealer uh who has begotten these enormous multi-million dollar
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agricultural contracts from the government thanks to Lyndon Johnson and he's kicking back to Johnson only weeks
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ago Billy Salaul Estus's grandson released an audio tape uh in which there
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is a discussion between his grandfather Billy Salstis who's also wrote an
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excellent book uh and Cliff Carter who is the executive director of the
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Democrat National Committee the chief political operative for LBJ in which they openly discussed the fact that
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Johnson hired a man named Malcolm M wallace to kill Kennedy i believe based
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on the fingerprints found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building uh and at least six
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eyewitnesses uh who identify a man in the window who meets the physical description of
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Wallace a middle-aged uh heavy set balding with glasses uh that Wallace is
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far more likely the shooter we now have this audio tape which I think confirms
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that that does not absolve the CIA it doesn't absolve organized crime as the
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Parkland pardon me as the Paramont Plus film indicates i think there are multiple gunmen i think there are
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multiple shooters i think Kennedy is shot from the front and the back uh indeed what you say is true uh I believe
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that both Jackie Kennedy and Robert Kennedy Senior uh both suspected
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Johnson's involvement of the murder of JFK uh but there's a very strange
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uh reference in that audio you refer to in which Jackie talks about coming by
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the White House to get an injection uh of what she believes is B17 how someone
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of her wealth someone of her stature could go to any doctor to get a B17 shot
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i believe this is consistent with one of the other things I say in my book which is that President John F kennedy uh and
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Jacqueline Kennedy uh were both being attended by Dr max Jacobson also known
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as Dr feelgood dr jacobson was attending many of the beautiful people of the time
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uh Pablo Casal Frank Sinatra Joe Deaggio Marilyn Monroe Leonard Bernstein Pablo
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Picasso Nelson Rockefeller uh and he's shooting them all up with a proprietary
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blend of of uh meth and fetamine uh and I think this explains why uh why Kennedy
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who was taking the injections for the horrific pain in his back he was a World War II hero very badly uh injured uh
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when his PT boat the 109 was cut in half by a Japanese boat uh I believe he's
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taking it for purposes of the pain uh but it makes him very randy also
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explains why he's chasing 18-year-old interns around the White House according to uh Dave Powers uh one of Kennedy's
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aids so um I think that injection refer she refers to as the one uh that is
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being administered to JFK uh I think it is further proof uh that Kennedy was
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addicted to methamphetamine he didn't know that i think he believed it was a proprietary blend of vitamins and
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enzymes actually think that this is one of the ways the deep state rationalized
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uh the murder of Kennedy if you go on the Air Force One manifest of those
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traveling to the Vienna Summit with Nikita Cruchef um you'll find Dr max Jacobson on the
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manifest there's an excellent book on this called Dr feel good uh which documents uh his treatment of JFK uh
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which I think played a role ultimately in Kennedy's murder the the the deep state the military thought that well
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Kennedy's a drug addict he could give away the store to Nikita Kruef
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okay interesting uh okay i I now I remember her saying I'll come by and get
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that shot i was focused on him talking about giving her a Christmas spanking
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and the fact that they kind of sounded flirtatious even though my understanding was there wasn't a good relationship
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your turn and then yes I I remember when I read your book uh it talked about that
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justification of well if this guy's a drug addict I mean we got to get him out of the White House and people have to
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remember at this time they were thinking about secretly you know nuclear bombing Russia in the middle of the night uh the
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the fear of communism uh was was absolutely rampant um okay
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going going back to the files so uh Pam Bondi releases 80,000 unredacted files
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then just last week I read that uh the National Archives released like another
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15,000 documents and you're saying that we're missing stuff from CIA IRS Social
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Security do you think we're ever going to get those documents or as you say the
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government wants to keep the conspiracy going and they would rather uh that
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people continue to believe it was Lee Harvey Oswald uh just a slight
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correction i think it was it was Tulsi Gabbert who announced that the National Archives would release these documents
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and we still have I think roughly another 30% of the documents are yet
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unreleased so we still don't know everything but there are some number of things that are already conspicuously
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missing now Congressman Tim Bersett uh and others wrote to the president urging
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him to broaden his order to include documents that hadn't been put in the
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document archive from all of these other departments don't know that we'll ever
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see those so what we've seen so far is interesting it shows the CIA dissembled
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about their early knowledge of Oswald shows that their head of counter intelligence James Jesus Angleton uh
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destroys a number of files shows that the KGB uh had identified Oswald as a poor shot
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that's consistent with my own research he had the lowest rating from the US military uh the US Marine Corps by the
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way M wallace had the highest rating uh as a Marine Corps veteran as a
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sharpshooter as a marksman uh I still think that what we have seen has been
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carefully called to continue to push the false narrative that Oswald acted alone
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uh and that he was just a random uh nut uh I think there's more than enough evidence that Oswald is in fact both
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known to the intelligence services much earlier than they say that's probably because in most cases I think he is an
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informant uh it is very odd for example that he defects to Russia but then he
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easily returns to the United States without any problem that's highly unusual it's also clear that he's being
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uh uh that he for someone who's a who's supposedly uh a uh a Russian communist
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uh they have him uh acting in New Orleans uh trying to cause a scene he gets
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arrested in New Orleans handing out anti- uh pardon me pro uh Castro hand
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bills uh and when he goes to jail uh who does he call does he call his wife does
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he call his lawyer no he calls the station chief of the FBI in New Orleans and he's almost immediately uh released
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so uh I don't think we have a we don't even have a smidgen uh of the entire
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picture here uh we we understand the motives of Johnson uh Kennedy had indeed
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begun telling people that LBJ would be dropped from the ticket would probably be prosecuted we understand the motives
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of the CIA uh they blame Kennedy for the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion uh I
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dug into this and uh for years conservatives criticized Kennedy for failing to order air support for the
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Cubans who were storming the beaches at the Bay of Pigs in that
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1962 invasion but in fact the plan that Kennedy approved included air cover from
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29 panamanium flagged bombers that were supposed to be flown by Cuban pilots uh
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and that was cancelled by Charles Cable the number two man at the CIA the day
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before the invasion uh then when the invasion turns into a fiasco uh Curtis
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Lame head of the air force uh and a hardline wararmonger seeking war with
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Russia uh says to to Kennedy "The only way we can save the day is by sending in
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the Air Force." Well that violates the the premise of the entire invasion which
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Kennedy only approved if he had plausible deniability it was supposed to look like a indigenous Cuban uprising
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not a US invasion of Cuba so he denies that air cover and of course he takes
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the blame for that fiasco uh and then there is the Cuban missile crisis now you and I have been told uh in in in
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song and fable and film that brave Jack and Bobby Kennedy faced down Nikita
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Kruef who removed his missiles from Cuba unfortunately that's not true uh 50
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years later documents are declassified that tell us that the Kennedys made a
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secret deal with Kruef to remove our missiles from Turkey and Italy uh in
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return for a pledge to remove the Russian missiles from Cuba but that
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agreement has no onsite inspection so this I think added to the
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methamphetamine issue we raised earlier creates the deep suspicion uh of the CIA
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or the hatred for Kennedy uh and Kennedy's deep suspicion for the CIA
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then you have organized crime uh as I said earlier I mentioned Carlos Marcelo
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now Marcelo uh and Sto Trafocante who run the mob ran the mob in Florida have
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reached an agreement before the 1960 election to both give a million dollars to John Kennedy's campaign and also to
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twist arms for him in Illinois uh in the West Virginia primary firstly but then
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in Illinois and in Texas and I think that explains his razor thin victory
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over Vice President Nixon in return Ambassador Joseph P kennedy John
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Kennedy's father uh has uh agreed to have the new Kennedy Justice Department
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back off their efforts to deport Marcelo uh and uh and Santo
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Trafocante marcelo ran the mob in Texas and Louisiana trafocante ran the mob in
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Florida bobby Kennedy becomes attorney general ambassador Kennedy is felled by
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a debilitating stroke he can no longer enforce the deal that he's made robert Kennedy goes after the mob bosses Hammer
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and Tong they feel double crossed there are jail cell bugging recordings of
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Marcelo bragging about his role in Kennedy's murder both before and after
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the murder so I think you to get a complete picture you would have to see all of this none of the documents
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released so far address the question of organized crime yet again the House
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Select Committee on Assassinations formed in the 70s because of widespread
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doubts about the accuracy of the Warren Commission specifically says that organized crime was involved based on
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their investigation by the way the CIA stonewalled that investigation would
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turn over no documents uh would provide no testimony oh wow okay uh I'm sure
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every person who's become president since then has wondered what's going on
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i want to talk about George Herbert Walker Bush's role as head of the CIA at
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that time and then uh you had some unique insight from President Nixon directly what what is the is is there
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uh George Herbert Walker Bush is still a Texas oil man uh his company Zapata is
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widely thought to be a CIA front uh uh he for 30 years says he can't remember
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where he was on the day Kennedy was shot now everybody remembers where they were of that age i certainly do uh but in
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fact he was in Dallas Texas he stayed at the Sheridan Hotel just steps from Daily
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Plaza uh on the night of the 21st uh I believe that he actually uh flew to
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Tyler Texas uh which is a short flight uh to give a lunchtime speech he was
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beginning to run for the US Senate he was the Republican nominee for the Senate in 1964
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uh he gave a lunchtime speech but what's curious is that immediately after
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hearing about the assassination of JFK he calls the FBI field office in Houston
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where he knows the station chief uh and he tells them about a young Republican
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in Harris County that's Houston uh who he heard may or may not have made
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threats against the president uh but I think the real reason that he's calling is to establish an alibi that he is in
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Tyler Texas now I know there is a picture uh of a man who looks like
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George Bush standing in front of the Texas School Book Depository building um I I don't understand how that's possible
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because the local newspaper in Tyler reports his lunchtime speech i think it's to the Rotary Club but it's
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interesting he tells the FBI man in Houston that it is his plan to fly from
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Tyler back to Houston but that's not what he does he flies back to Dallas stays overnight in Dallas and then goes
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back to Houston the following morning uh if he had a role here I think it may
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have been uh it is clear that he was a CIA uh functionary earlier than thought
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one of the documents that has been discovered uh is a memo from FBI
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Director Jay Garoover uh directing those in the bureau to brief George Bush of
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the CIA uh on the activities of right-wing anti-Castro Cubans uh in the
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Dallas area now the CIA seems to have gone to great lengths to say that that
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is a different George Bush uh and we find that there is a man named George Bush who's a federal employee who gets
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transferred from like GSA over to the CIA for reasons he never understood and
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then transferred back this appears to be a cover uh I think George HW Book Bush
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who's very junior at that point uh is a is a fundraiser for the Kennedy
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assassination i make a pretty good case in my book that the entire operation was financed by big Texas oil interests uh
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but he did not become CIA director till much later in his career remember this is 1963 he doesn't become CIA director
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until 1976 and even then he's only confirmed by the
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Senate after agreeing that he would not run for president or vice president in
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1976 bush aspired to be on the ticket with Ford uh Don Rumsfeld who was his
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arch rival who was uh the White House chief of staff at that time under Ford
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engineered this deal in which Bush had to agree uh that he would not run in
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order to get the Democrat votes to be confirmed in the US Senate this is a grudge that he long held against
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Rumsfeld okay so hold on george Bush Senior had bad blood with Donald
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Rumsfeld but then Rumsfeld ends up taking a big cabinet position under his
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son yes I I actually think that there was bad blood between Rumsfeld and Cheney uh and George HW Bush they both
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aspired to be uh president rumsfeld actually aspired to be vice president
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with Ford himself uh and he kind of got Bush uh conveniently out of the way uh
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by pigeon holing him in the CIA job i I think the relationship by between George
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HW Bush and George W bush very accurately depicted in Oliver Stone's
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film uh George W bush is very anxious to show his father that he's not the black
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sheep of the family remember it was Jeb who was supposed to be president not W it was Jeb who's supposed to win the
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governorship of Florida jeb was not favored to win the governorship of Texas
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uh and I think this is his way of showing his father that he's his own man
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it was also his undoing because I don't think there is a more skillful
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bureaucratic infighter uh or operator than Dick Cheney uh who as we now know
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uh lied us into war on the basis of a bunch of false assertions uh the Iraqis
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had nothing to do with 911 they told us otherwise saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction specifically
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did not have yellow cake uranium to build nuclear weapons uh the entire
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premise for the Iraq war driven by Vice President Dick Cheney was based on a lie
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okay uh does does Donald Trump have bad blood
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with the Bush family because of your book about the Bush crime family or did he have personal reasons to not like
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them or was it just the fact that we spent trillions of dollars on a useless war and killed a bunch of people over a
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lie what What's the relationship between Bush and Trump uh it is certainly strained today uh there was a time in
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1988 uh I was there when Donald Trump had a fundraising reception for George HW Bush
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at the Plaza Hotel in New York raised quite a bit of money for his presidential campaign uh I think that he
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in the beginning he was a supporter of George W bush because he thought his
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predecessor Bill Clinton was a disaster uh he was I think turned off by the war
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uh Trump is a is a non-interventionist uh he understood uh that the reasons
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they gave us for the war in Iraq were false uh and I think that is the beginning of his disillusionment with
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the Bushes and then of course it's very clear that when he ran for president in 2016 uh most of the members of the Bush
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family endorsed Hillary Clinton when he ran again in 2020 they were not for him
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and they certainly weren't for him in 2024 so uh I think it's because they are neocons and he is a he's an America
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first they are they are not only different branches of the party but
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Trump's nomination in 2016 is essentially the hostile takeover of the
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Republican party uh as previously owned by the Bushes under the Bushes the
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Republican party was the party of the neocons the party of war uh the party of Wall Street the party of big business
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the party of the elites uh Donald Trump has con has transformed this into being
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the party of the middle class the party of working people the party of peace party of free speech party of prosperity
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uh the party of tax reduction remember George HW Bush referred to Donald to
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Ronald Reagan's tax cuts as voodoo economics whereas Donald Trump was a strong supporter of Ronald Reagan's tax
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cuts uh the tax cuts put forward by JFK the tax cuts put forward by Reagan the
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tax cuts put forward by Trump have all uh sharply increase federal revenues so
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the narrative that our deficits or our inflation was caused by these tax cuts
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is absurd inflation and the deficits are caused by a spending problem a spending
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problem that I think is now being documented by Elon Musk and the folks at Doge
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okay why uh let me leave JFK just for a minute because this question's been on
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my mind why does President Trump want the Department of Education to go away
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is it because he so strongly believes in school choice is it the fact that he can
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easily pull up these blue cities with Democrat leaders and read "Wait a minute
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90% of students don't know how to read or do basic math we we've got to do
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better than this." What What is the reasoning uh for getting rid of the Department of Education created by Jimmy
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Carter i I think that the president feels that education policy is best handled by local school boards uh and
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that that it has turned out the the federal department of education uh has
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really just been used to try to push a DEI uh and transgendered agenda on the
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public schools there is no role for the federal government in education now federal funding for education is not
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being zeroed out it will just now go to local school districts uh and local
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school boards can make much better decisions about how to inculcate and educate students than this giant federal
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bureaucracy uh President Reagan also uh as you know pledged to uh to terminate
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uh and do away with the department of education was never able to do so i think this is one of Trump's more
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important accomplishments it has to do with local control and also the fact that this bureaucracy has been pushing
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uh these uh these uh this this agenda this ideological woke agenda that has
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been rejected by the American voters in the last election okay uh I I've I've
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read online but I don't fully understand it that uh many say the Department of
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Education has simply become a money laundering operation for the Democrat
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party they push big money their way they educate their way and then those people
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donate back to Democrat people for example when I covered the uh the
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lockdowns uh I remember Chuck Schumer Nancy Pelosi pushing for nearly $300
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billion to go to school systems i've not I've not read any of that money actually
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making education better uh is the Democrat part was the Democrat party using the Department of Education as a
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moneyaundering scheme uh I think uh Elon Musk and Doge would be in much better
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position to answer this than I do but it is clear that just the formulation of the Department of Education is a payoff
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for the teachers union and the teachers union is not about good teachers it's
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about uh a lockstep ideology uh it's about pushing this woke agenda uh so I
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think the president's done the right thing by doing away with this uh there's a special election uh in upstate New
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York coming to fill the seat of Alise Stefonic it sounds to me like the Republican party bosses are pushing a
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candidate endorsed by the teachers union uh fellow by the name of Dan Stack i
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think Mr ste should be asked does he support President Trump's decision to do away with the Department of Education
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like his opponent Anthony Constantino does for example i think that this is a flashoint issue for Republicans and it's
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one that needs to be uh that needs to be aired in that contest and uh I think the
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president has done a very good job of explaining why he's doing the way with the department of education
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okay uh people have been very critical of President Trump being unable to end
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this war between Russia and Ukraine uh in his final days Biden rushed as many
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billions of dollars as he could to Zalinski we're not now finding out much of that money much of those weapons
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never arrived so Trump you know is being hamstrung uh Zalinski Europe they don't
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seem to want this war to end it to my perspective it seems Putin's more interested in the war ending than
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Zalinski uh and then you know there's this talk of a ceasefire a peace
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agreement trump begs for the life of these 2500 Ukrainians surrounded by
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Russia and what does Ukraine do after saying "We'll seek peace." They start bombing deeper into Russia does Ukraine
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really want this war to end uh there's no evidence that they do uh I think this
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is all being manipulated by the Easter the European Union uh remember under Joe
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Biden we had no peace talks going at all there was no dialogue going trump understands it takes two to tango he has
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to get the Russians and the Ukrainians to the table after being accused repeatedly of being in the tank for
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Putin he had to threaten the Russians with sanctions bank sanctions and tariffs uh in order to get them to agree
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to a temporary ceasefire uh then Zalinsky agrees to a ceasefire appears
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now to have violated that agreement uh I think the president is committed to peace no one ever thought that this was
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going to be easy uh Zalinsky continues to be propped up uh by the by the
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European Union nations uh and they have an interest in long-term war uh
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again the the false narrative that this war is about the territorial ambitions
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of Vladimir Putin and I have no great love for the Russians my members of my
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own family were mowed down by Russian tanks in Budapest in 1956 but it is absolutely clear that we
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agreed in two different agreements with the Russians the Budapest Memorandum and
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the Minsk Accords uh that we would not push Ukraine into NATO more precisely
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that we would not mount NATO missiles on the ground uh in Ukraine pointed at
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Russia uh and this is what Zalinsky really objects to it's been his line in
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the sand from the beginning uh we have this ongoing push despite our two signed
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agreements for Ukraine to join NATO which is really about the missiles and
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presumably the boweapons labs i don't think this is any different than our own
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situation in the United States in 1962 when the Russians mounted uh
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missiles in Cuba 90 miles off our shore we objected uh so this false narrative
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that Putin is going to gobble up Ukraine and then he's going to take Poland and then he's going to take Germany then
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he's going to take France this is nonsensical uh it has no it has no basis
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uh in reality uh the president is seeking to end this war and do so as
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quickly as possible but no one ever thought it would be easy particularly with the uh European Union propping
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Zalinsky up nonetheless we have put up more than $200 million $200 billion
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pardon me more for the defense of Ukraine than any of the Eastern European
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allies seems to me that this is a bigger problem for them than it is for us but the president has demanded that they pay
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their fair share uh and I think he's right about that yeah from my very
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limited young perspective Europe seems very willing to support uh Ukraine with
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American money so it's like it's our money our weapons but they're very supportive cheerleaders
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uh of that and then you find out that uh you know behind the scenes they've been
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buying all more Russian oil than they've actually put into defending Ukraine and
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then you have to go okay you know follow the money put your money where your mouth is it it seems like Trump sees
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behind the curtain with uh with what uh Ukraine is trying to do okay um final
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final question actually two two more and I appreciate you coming on um what uh do
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you have you heard any rumblings uh of a game plan or how uh Trump and and Bondi
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are going to handle these lower federal judges that keep undermining the sitting
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president of the United States chuck Schumer went on and said they're doing great we installed 235
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uh judges that think like us and they're they're doing a great job how do we how do we overcome these lower judges well I
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think Stephen Miller is absolutely right when he says these judges are exceeding their authority they do not have the
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statutory authority to uh to challenge the president's executive ability to
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make decisions uh regarding the foreign and domestic policies of the country uh
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if you think about this we have a federal judge in DC who says that the president doesn't have the authority to
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deport dangerous criminals and terrorists from the country uh I think it should be the president's view that
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he will listen to a three judge appeals panel on these questions uh Matt Gates
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was on my uh 77 WWC radio show yesterday and he's a lawyer i'm not but he
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actually said that he thinks that the administration should ignore these orders uh the enforcement mechanism
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would be through the Department of uh Justice i'm not quite certain how that
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will work uh it's interesting to see uh the mainstream media deal with this for
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those who say "Oh just impeach these judges." I don't think people understand how complicated and difficult a process
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that is the House Republicans would can impeach that means indict uh a a judge
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although it's questionable about the grounds would seem based on law that only uh uh you know malfeasants criminal
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activity uh philosophical differences are not supposed to be the grounds for impeachment but more importantly then
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requires a twothirds vote of the US Senate which I think is highly unlikely
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so the the administration has to appeal all of these decisions meanwhile there
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are people still in danger in this country uh from from terrorists from
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violent criminals uh meanwhile they continue to ignore the president's order
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uh to uh to lay off federal employees to save money uh they we have another
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federal judge who's who said that Elon Musk and the folks at Doge should not be
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allowed to have access to social security records well he is an extension of the executive the president has the
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authority to vest in him the executive authority to look at those records we have another federal judge saying that
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he can't shut down the department of education we have yet another federal judge who says uh that he can't uh bar
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transgendered people from the military uh all of these things are designed to styy his America first agenda i I don't
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profess to know the answer i'm not an attorney but I do know that the American people voted for these changes and I
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think the president ends up fighting it out in court I guess yeah I I uh I
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believe that's true okay so we have Roger Stone author of The Man Who Killed
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Kennedy the case against LBJ final question what what uh what was the
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commentary that Richard Nixon President Nixon shared with you about LBJ and the
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assassination of uh John F kennedy uh well you can find this in my book i also
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have a Substack piece which I think will be posted uh any minute now uh it's very
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simple uh in his post-presidential years uh I was working for former President
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Nixon i was in his home in Saddle River uh and after work over a couple cocktails uh he could get fairly
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loquacious when he had a drink or two and I screwed up my courage to ask him "Mr president who really killed
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Kennedy?" And he looked deep deeply in his glass for a moment looked up at me and said "Well let me say this the
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Warren Commission was the biggest godamn hoax in American history." I said "I'm sorry sir what do you mean?" He said
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"Well let me put it to you this way lyndon and I both wanted to be president
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but I wasn't willing to kill for it to that was the impetus for me to write this book by the way you can get your
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copy by going to the manhkilled kennedy.com the manhkilled kennedy.com
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if you choose to buy it elsewhere get the paperback version has three additional chapters uh but in the book
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you'll learn that Jack Ruby uh who we saw on national television kill Lee
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Harvey Oswald was known to Nixon that Nixon had at the request of Congressman
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Lyndon Johnson had used excess staff money to put Jack Ruby then going under
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the name Jack Rubenstein his real name on the House payroll as an informant for the House on American Activities
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Committee so uh we also Tucker Carlson uh featured a recent audio from the
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famous Watergate tapes the Oval Office tapes uh in which you can hear President
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Nixon telling the CIA director Richard Helms uh in a TUR conversation in which
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Nixon is trying to pressure the CIA to provide him cover in the Watergate scandal and he says you know a lot of
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dirty business happened over there Dick a lot of things that I know had to be done uh and when Helms tries to pretend
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what Nixon doesn't know what he's talking about or that Helms pardon me doesn't know what Nixon's talking about
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Nixon says uh says "Look I know who shot John."
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There it is uh for everybody to hear it's all in my book The Man Who Killed Kennedy get it at the man who killed
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Kennedy.com okay i will definitely uh put a direct link to that um I'm just starting the
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Bush Crime Family book so I don't want to get into that until I've I've read it but I loved this book i highly recommend
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it it was entertaining educational definitely not a textbook you did a
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phenomenal job i want to put a direct link to that if people want to catch you your show where can I point them Roger
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they can go to stoneszone.com uh which is my website they can also go every day at 800 PM
46:44
Eastern to wabcradio.com wabcradio.com in New York uh it's also
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now syndicated number of other cities but uh any place worldwide you can go to
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wabcradio.com at 8:00 p.m eastern every night uh and today we have Mike Davis I
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believe uh from the article three project tomorrow Cali Means joins me to
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talk about the move to make America healthy again so check it out
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wwcradio.com 8 o'clock p.m eastern okay I'll put those direct links down below
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thank you so much i hope you have a great rest of your day thank you Stephen great to be with you