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The Thing that Almost ENDED Avoiding Babylon
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Every creative partnership faces moments of truth that either strengthen bonds or break them completely. In this remarkably candid episode, we reveal the full story behind our infamous "co-sleeping controversy" that nearly destroyed our show and friendship.
What began as an innocent debate about co-sleeping practices escalated into a full-blown crisis when personal friendships collided with on-air content decisions. We share the raw text message where one host declared "I'm done" and prepared to walk away from everything we'd built together. For two months afterward, we continued producing weekly content while barely speaking off-air – a performance our audience never detected.
The Twitter storm that followed became one of the most vicious pile-ons we've experienced as content creators. We discuss the difficult balance between defending yourself publicly and making personal amends privately, especially when multiple relationships are at stake. This episode provides rare insight into the emotional labor behind content creation partnerships that viewers rarely consider.
Most importantly, we reveal how this near-catastrophe ultimately strengthened our friendship through a shared realization: "I'd rather tank the show than lose you as my friend." For anyone navigating creative partnerships or rebuilding damaged relationships, this conversation offers honest perspective on prioritizing what truly matters when everything falls apart.
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