Joe Rogan Experience #2295 - Scott Payne Retired FBI Special Agent

Scott Payne is a retired FBI Special Agent who spent 28 years in law enforcement investigating cases against drug trafficking organizations, human traffickers, outlaw motorcycle clubs, gangs, public corruption, and domestic terrorists. He is the co-author of the book "Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America’s Nazis" and the subject of the podcast "White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse," both created in collaboration with journalist Michelle Shephard.
Chapters:
0:00 - 05:40 : Early Life and Path to Law Enforcement
5:40 - 11:18 : Transition to Undercover Work and Challenges
11:18 - 17:26 : Undercover Training and Certification Process
17:26 - 24:03 : Initial Assignments and Building Trust in the Field
24:03 - 30:44 : Approaching Outlaw Biker Gangs and Establishing Relationships
30:44 - 37:30 : Intense Surveillance and Gathering Evidence
37:30 - 45:10 : Deepening Relationships and Carjackings
45:10 - 51:19 : Escalation of Operations and Trust Building
51:19 - 57:00 : Preparing for Major Drug Protection Operation
57:00 - 1:00:00 : Final Moments Leading to Arrest and Reflection
01:00:00 - 01:05:10 : Adrenaline Dump and Initial Encounter
01:05:10 - 01:10:15 : Undercover Stress and Personal Impact
01:10:15 - 01:15:21 : Clothesline Incident and Emotional Reactions
01:15:21 - 01:20:24 : Overworked and Burnout Experience
01:20:24 - 01:24:00 : Psychological Assessment and Case Management
01:24:00 - 01:28:08 : Timeout Period and Continued Involvement
01:28:08 - 01:32:12 : Final Interaction with Scott Town
01:32:12 - 01:36:24 : Reflections on Relationships and Success Stories
01:36:24 - 01:40:27 : Pedophile Cases and Their Emotional Toll
01:40:27 - 01:44:02 : Child Pornography and Online Threats
01:44:02 - 01:48:36 : Shocking Cases and Justice Achieved
01:48:36 - 01:53:15 : Transition to Neo-Nazi Investigation
01:53:15 - 01:57:24 : Infiltration and Understanding Accelerationism
01:57:24 - 02:00:00 : Neo-Nazi Ideology and Planning Tactics
02:00:00 - 02:05:00 : Introduction to White Supremacy Beliefs
02:05:00 - 02:10:00 : Christian Identity and Pagan Twists
02:10:00 - 02:15:00 : White Supremacist Recruitment Tactics
02:15:00 - 02:20:00 : Personal Experience Infiltrating Base
02:20:00 - 02:25:00 : Sacrificial Ritual Details
02:25:00 - 02:30:00 : Acid Use During Rituals
02:30:00 - 02:35:00 : Propaganda Video Activities
02:35:00 - 02:40:00 : Uncovering Murder Plots
02:40:00 - 02:45:00 : Challenges and Arrests
02:45:00 - 02:50:00 : Personal Impact and Reflections
02:50:00 - 02:55:00 : Additional Undercover Stories
02:55:00 - 03:00:00 : Book Promotion and Future Projects

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