Sterlin Lujan: What If You Could Opt Out of the System…For Real?

As the power of nation-states grows more centralised and coercive, a new movement is emerging—decentralised, parallel societies built from the ground up.

In this episode, I’m joined by philosopher and decentralisation advocate Sterlin Lujan to explore the rise of network states—digital-first communities that evolve into real-world alternatives, with their own economies, governance models, and missions.

Are we witnessing the birth of a digital rebellion? Can these parallel societies provide real solutions to the meta-crisis, or are they just idealistic experiments? Let’s find out.

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Chapters
00:00 – The Rise of Network States & Why They Matter
03:50 – The Meta-Crisis: Why Our Systems Are Failing
07:40 – Parallel Societies: A Blueprint for Radical Alternatives
12:00 – What Is a Network State? Definition & Origins
16:10 – Governance Without Governments: How Network States Operate
20:30 – Special Economic Zones & Real-World Examples
25:10 – Transhumanism & Technocracy: Hope or Dystopia?
30:00 – Counter Governance & Economic Subversion
34:00 – Keeping Freedom Alive: Exit, Choice & Cultural Pluralism
39:00 – Building the Future: Can Network States Replace Nation-States?

🧠 Connect with Sterlin Lujan:
Substack: https://countergovernance.substack.com
Deep Governance Research: https://polis-labs.com/
Logos manifesto: https://logos.co/
Book: Dignity and Decency → available via Amazon or direct from Sterlin

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