From Programming to Presence: Is it manipulation or sanctification?

Are we following trends, or are we truly following Jesus?

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In this thought-provoking episode 91 of the Eyes on Jesus Podcast, Drew and Tim challenge the modern church’s obsession with trends, metrics, and imitation. Too often, ministries and believers alike model their faith after popular figures rather than seeking direct guidance from God. But what if we stopped chasing influence and started chasing authenticity?

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:
✅ Are we being sanctified or just manipulated by culture?
✅ Why do churches copy influencers like Joe Rogan & Craig Groeschel instead of hearing from God?
✅ The 4 types of churches—visionary, early adopters, late adopters, and resistors. Where does yours fall?
✅ Are testimonies more powerful than numbers? Why stories matter more than stats.
✅ How personal faith routines can become imitation rather than revelation.

Ask Yourself:
🔹 Am I making decisions based on God’s direction, or just following what’s popular?
🔹 Is my church driven by transformation or just attendance numbers?
🔹 How can I shift from programmed faith to authentic discipleship?
🔹 Could my well-intended ministry efforts actually be grieving the Holy Spirit?

This episode isn’t just about church leadership—it’s about YOU. Whether you’re a pastor, a volunteer, or someone trying to live out your faith, this conversation will challenge you to rethink your approach to ministry and your personal walk with Christ.

🎧 Listen now and join the conversation! Don’t forget to like, comment, and share! Let’s pursue Jesus, not just the latest trend. 🙌🔥

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