PBS: Trump And Musk Decimated USAID; Millions Will Die If It’s Not Rectified

The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) airs a program called "Amanpour & Company," which PBS describes as featuring insightful interviews with global leaders and influencers. The regular host, Christiane Amanpour, is British-Iranian, and was born in London. Last night, the fill-in host for Christiane Amanpour’s PBS show, Amanpour & Company, began the episode by airing the most recent interview between Amanpour and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The fill-in host played this Zelensky interview for the first 20 minutes. Afterward, she welcomed Democrat Senator Chris Coons for a 10-minute segment, during which she asked him questions about Trump, Russia, and Ukraine. Next, she aired an interview with Mark Rutte, the NATO Secretary General, which lasted 8 minutes. Finally, the fill-in host for Amanpour & Company on PBS played an interview featuring Walter Isaacson speaking with Bill Gates. This segment ran for 17 minutes. Below is the only part of the entire show that I thought was worth mentioning.

Transcript-

Walter Isaacson: I remember we talked about a little and you said you tried to talk him (Trump) into keeping some of the foreign aid, and all you really got was that he really listened to you and said maybe he'd call you before he made a final decision. Tell me what the upshot is, cause he seems to have, along with Elon Musk, pretty much decimated USAID.

Bill Gates: Well, I'm hopeful that some significant portion of that can be reversed and preserved. You know Elon, of all the elimination he's done, he's done 99% of it, of these employees of USAID who work overseas in very tough circumstances, and they allow the US, in addition to our military power, to get out there and help out with famine and HIV medicines, including this program called PEPFAR. And so I know a lot of those workers, I know that work, a very very high percentage of it is stuff every taxpayer would be proud of. So there's a little bit of a discussion that, yeah, Elon, I think, said okay, we made a mistake, we went overboard. But now, what is the equilibrium? How many of those people can be kept so we can continue to save tens of millions of lives?

Walter Isaacson: How many lives could be lost if they don't rectify this?

Bill Gates: Oh, it's definitely in the millions. PEPFAR has kept over 20 million people alive with HIV drugs, you know, started by President Bush and continued on a bipartisan basis literally up till the day that Elon decided it wasn't a good organization.

Walter Isaacson: It seems almost that it's almost worse than never having done it at all, if you put people o

n HIV and AIDS drugs and then all of a sudden one day they disappear. Yeah, I think whoever was doing these software queries and finding less than 1% of these things that they were, in many cases incorrectly, saying outrageous things about, I don't think they really had the picture of that here on the field. And so, you know, keeping people alive from HIV, the US has done a great job, and even if we have to reduce that some, an abrupt withdrawal is a terrible thing. But there's a larger picture which is I don't think people understand either how much we do in foreign aid or even why we do foreign aid. So leave aside the details, why should we be giving foreign aid?

Bill Gates: Well, most people, when they're asked think foreign aid is a big part of the budget, like 5%, and they think it should be more like 2%, when in fact, it's actually 1%.

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