Cari Champion on Trump Voters: It’s Not About Eggs, It’s About Making Sure There Is White Supremacy in this Country

FARAH GRIFFIN: “So whether it‘s democracy, whether it‘s, to some degree, reproductive rights, that just was not the defining issue of this election, rather than, oh, it‘s pocketbook issues, it‘s the cost of living, it‘s border security.”
CHAMPION: “It‘s not pocketbook issues. I don‘t want to interrupt you. I thought it was about eggs. We‘re not talking about it. It‘s not about eggs. It was never about eggs. It was about race. And if we‘re honest, if I see something, say something. We‘ve been told that since we were kids. If you see something, say something. It‘s not about eggs. It‘s not about — it‘s about making sure that there is white supremacy in this country. And if we‘re honest, we will say that. It is about making sure — “
FARAH GRIFFIN: “With due respect — “
CHAMPION: “We will make sure that people who — DEI is is really all these code words. You used to use ‘woke,’ I asked you to define what woke meant, you couldn‘t really define it.”
JENNINGS: “Oh, I did.”
CHAMPION: “Tell me what it means again.”
JENNINGS: “Woke ideology is taking extreme views of American culture and trying to tear down America from the inside out and go outside of our cultural norms and invade every corporation, university and other institutions.”
CHAMPION: “What is DEI?”
Allison: “That’s incorrect.”
CHAMPION: “That’s incorrect. But what is DEI? Tell me again.”
JENNINGS: “DEI? Diversity, equity and inclusion. Trying to guarantee outcomes instead of guarantee opportunity?”
CHAMPION: “It looks every single person in Trump’s cabinet looks like DEI. I want take us off the rope. You continue.”
FARAH GRIFFIN: “If I could just finish — “
PHILLIP: “I do want us to not get off the rails because — “
JENNINGS: “Well, she just said we‘re all white supremacists. We’ve got to — we’ve got to address this, don’t we?”
PHILLIP: “We have actually, believe it or not, a whole conversation on DEI coming up in the show.”
JENNINGS: “Oh, good.”
PHILLIP: “But to your point about what the Trump Administration has been focused on, literally everything that they have done has actually been about tearing down DEI. Elon Musk is literally searching for the code words, the key words in the government, spreadsheets, and deleting those items.”
FARAH GRIFFIN: “Can I just say one thing though? Demonizing a whole swath of voters and saying they voted because they‘re racist or misogynist, not — “
CHAMPION: “I didn‘t say — those aren’t my words, it’s yours. But go ahead.”
JENNINGS: “You said it was about white supremacy.”
CHAMPION: “I said it was about white supremacy. I didn’t say that all the voters were white supremacists. But it‘s not about eggs. She said it was about pocketbook issues. It‘s not about pocketbook issues.”
FARAH GRIFFIN: “You don‘t think people were at all motivated by the state of the economy?”
CHAMPION: “Of course they were, absolutely. But yes, and... You‘re smart enough to know yes, and... They were upset about pocketbook issues and they‘re also upset about what people were saying.”