Jon Favreau: Dems Can’t Go on Joe Rogan Because They Can’t Have a Normal Conversation, ‘They Talk Like a Message Document’

SCARBOROUGH: “Yeah, you know, Jon Favreau, Tommy just made such a great point, you know, there’s an old saying that like what, 99 percent of life is just showing up. Donald Trump always shows up. If you look at — somebody did an analysis of how many interviews, how many words were spoken, how many questions were answered during the 2024 campaign, it wasn’t even close. I remember back in 2015, we said every Republican, every Democrat that wanted to come on the show on the campaign trail, pick up the phone, call us, would have him come on. Donald Trump and Scott and Lake call it every day. The only person that would take that was Lindsey Graham, he called once or twice and we did it again like in 2020 and you know, we had Congressman Ryan Call up and that was it. I mean, talk about the importance of being there. Of course, we’re talking about Joe Rogan now, but Joe Rogan, Fox News, Ben Shapiro not being afraid to go where the voters are.”
BRZEZINSKI: “Yeah.”
FAVREAU: “You have to be everywhere all the time, all the different mediums. And like, look, I think there was an — there’s an expectation, especially after Trump won the first time, because he was on Twitter for four years that we’d be hearing from our president all the time. A lot of us didn’t like hearing from him, but we did. And I think over communicating in this media environment is the most important thing leaders can do. I mean, we’re all living in Los Angeles. We just are dealing with these horrific fires. And Mayor Bass —“
BRZEZINSKI: “So sorry.”
FAVREAU: “— was out of the city and, you know, she was making the case that, look, I was making all the decisions I needed to make. And — and maybe that’s true. But in a time like that, what you need is a leader who’s there, who’s communicating, especially in this media environment, right?”
BRZEZINSKI: “Right.”
FAVREAU: “Because there’s so much misinformation. There’s so much bad information out there. It’s so hard to figure out what to do. And I think what people expect and what people deserve is a leader who’s constantly talking to them —“
BRZEZINSKI: “Yeah.”
FAVREAU: “— and being unafraid to make mistakes, to make gaps, because that’s what’s going to happen.” [crosstalk]
BRZEZINSKI: “And then keep coming back and then keep coming back. And then keep — what do you think Donald Trump did?”
FAVREAU: “Well, and I also think Democrats think like, oh, we’re going to go on Joe Rogan. And then they think what’s going to happen is they’re going to go on Joe Rogan. And then Joe Rogan is going to say something about trans issues. And they’re going to say trans issues. That’s just a distraction from high prices. And have you heard about what we did with Medicare? And Joe Rogan’s going to be like, what?”
BRZEZINSKI: “Mm-hmm.”
FAVREAU: “Because like they talk like a message document —“
BRZEZINSKI: “Mm-hmm.”
FAVREAU: “— and they talk like their pollster told them to talk.”
BRZEZINSKI: “Mm-hmm.”
FAVREAU: “And instead, you actually just have to have a conversation like you’re having a conversation in real life. And right now there’s like a handful of Democrats who can do that.”
BRZEZINSKI: “Right.”