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Audie Cornish, Solomon Jones Inject ‘Race’ to Daniel Penny and CEO Killer Case: ‘Which Victim Is Good? Which Victim Is Bad?’
CORNISH: “To this side of the table, I want to bring in the politics of this because when I hear lawmakers hailing Penny as a hero, as a good Samaritan, really being promoted, can you help me understand the thinking? Just — we started at the top of the show talking about the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO being hailed in similar terms.”
JENNINGS: “Yeah. Yeah, let me let me just help you understand. If you‘re on the American left tonight, here‘s my chart. The good guys today: Daniel Penny. The bad guys: Luigi Mangione. It seems to me — “
CORNISH: “How do you — what’s the chart for victims?”
JENNINGS: “I‘m just — I‘m just telling you what I see out in the world.”
CORNISH: “I know. I know. I just want you to finish the chart. So the victim, which victim is good and which victim is bad?”
JENNINGS: “What I‘m telling you is — “
CORNISH: “That‘s not on the second page?”
JENNINGS: “People on the left — people on the left can‘t seem to — can‘t seem to tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys.”
CORNISH: “I’m not asking you about people on the left. I‘m asking you whether you consider this person — “
JENNINGS: “We had people praising Luigi and attacking Penny!”
CORNISH: “I want to know whether you think that, as Congressman Crane does, that Daniel Penny should get the Congressional Gold Medal to recognize his heroism? I‘m not asking you about anyone.”
JENNINGS: “I think he ought to get medal. I think you ought to build a statue to this guy in New York City.
Jones: “And I’m gonna say it, I’m gonna say the dreaded r-word. Race plays a role in this. Right? And so we see it — “
JENNINGS: “Does it?”
Jones: “Yes, absolutely, because — “
JENNINGS: “Wasn‘t there a similar case in New York City at the same time this was going on?”
Jones: “Statistics say that when people kill people who are white, they tend to get harsher sentences, especially if they‘re people of color.”
JENNINGS: “What about the Jordan Williams case?”
Jones: “That is what happens in our criminal justice system.”
UNKNOWN: “Scott, stop, stop. First of all — “
Jones: “No, I‘m not going to stop, because race absolutely plays a role in this.”
JENNINGS: “I didn’t ask you to stop. I said, what about the Jordan Williams case here in New York? Same situation, African American gets on a subway, ends up killing a guy, grand jury tosses it out at the exact same time as the Penny case.”
UNKNOWN: “That’s different. That’s different.”
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