The Kay Griggs Interviews, Part 4/8 - Disclosure of the Global Cabal/Mafia (Timestamped)

The Kay Griggs Interviews, 1988, Part 4/8 - Disclosure of the Global Cabal/Mafia (Timestamped)

This series of interviews is probably one of the most important pieces of modern disclosure that's public into how the world actually works. Many of the "heroes" and celebrities of the "alternative media" sphere that are highly platformed (e.g. Whitney Webb, Alex Jones, Ian Carroll -- among others), will not talk about this interview although they know of it.

In Webb's case, and I'm just using her as an example, she's from a wealthy "cabal" connected family and is a trust funder. Her publisher is Mint Pres which is tied to Chatham House/The Royal Institute of International Affairs, the policy arm of the Committee of 300. You'll get good info from her, but it's allowed info.

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Summary
Divine Intervention and Threats (00:00-01:44): The speaker recounts a week spent in a hotel due to threats on their life, emphasizing the role of divine intervention and the involvement of acquaintances who helped mitigate the dangers.

New World Order and Personal Safety Incidents (01:44-04:24): The speaker describes various harrowing incidents including having hits put out on them, experiences with burglary, and intimidation, suggesting a wider conspiracy tied to the New World Order.

Surveillance and Sabotage (05:01-10:39): The speaker shares detailed accounts of being surveilled, having mail intercepted, and their home being broken into multiple times, illustrating a pattern of harassment and attempts to sabotage their life.

Government Conspiracy Theories (12:52-15:34): The conversation shifts to the speaker's beliefs about U.S. intelligence agencies, including the NSA and FBI, conducting surveillance on citizens and the existence of secret programs leading to the covert targeting of individuals.

Military and Political Connections (23:35-40:35): The speaker discusses their husband's connections to high-ranking military officials and illegal activities, highlighting a network of power and corruption within the military and government.

Summary of Context (28:05-29:11): The speaker's narrative combines personal experience with broader allegations of corruption, conspiracy, and a culture of fear and intimidation connected to government and military operations.

Sexual Perversion in the Military (55:31-57:37): Toward the end, the conversation touches on alleged sexual practices among military officials, including secretive and coercive sexual rituals, suggesting a hidden culture within the ranks initiated through fraternity-like activities.

Transcript:
(00:00) Yeah. So I said, well, take care of the one and I'll see what I can do about the other one. And so he left and came back again. He said, okay, I made a phone call. Don't go home or to your office until Friday. This was Monday. So I lived in a hotel room that whole week with a gun under my pillow. And I didn't move. I paid cash for the room. That was before you had to finish identification.
(00:29) And it's kind of interesting because every time somebody walked down the hall in the middle of the night, I would wake up. And it was after that that I, by the way, that it was taken off. Thanks to him. He called me later and asked me to do a favor about six months later. And I won't need to go into that. But the point of this story is divine intervention. I didn't go home that night. A friend of mine said, stay with me this night and we'll go from there. And so anyway, I ended up driving to, I had some friends drive me to Dallas.
(01:05) I remember I slept in the back seat of the car for like 21 hours. That's how long it took to drive to Dallas because I hadn't had any sleep in a week. And then while I was over there, I'm saying to myself, I got to get rid of this other hit. This is all new world order stuff. This is all Illuminati. Okay. They put hits out on people all the time. Don't bat an eye. So I'm over there and I get a call from a fellow in Los Angeles. Come over. I want to talk to you.
(01:44) And this particular person had some pretty good contacts because he knew about my situation. He knew I had two hits put on me at the same time. And long story short, this particular person was able to take the second hit off of me. That was just one. Another occasion, 1986, I said to myself, you know, I've had enough cops and robbers in my life. I'm getting out and I'm going to go in business for myself.
(02:13) Divine intervention again. The good Lord wasn't going to let me get out of this work that I'm doing. And I invested every dime I had and I lost it all. And so I had to go back in the private investigation work. Didn't have to because I had a pretty good retirement check. So this fellow, I was living with my business partner and his wife and kid. My business partner went overseas, went to Argentina, I think it was.
(02:43) And I was, he was gone for a while. And then my daughter had a road trip and I housed that for her. And on that particular night, an individual, and I found out later his name was Bill Menser, known as Charles Manson II, came into the house about 11 o'clock. She was on the third floor. It was a tri-level level and heard him coming in. And the dog went bananas. She closed the door, went to the telephone to make a phone call.
(03:14) Didn't work because the phone down in the kitchen had been taken off the hook. And she sat there and waited it out, got her gun out. He didn't come upstairs. Again, I made some phone calls and I didn't go home that night because when my daughter came back from her road trip, I was staying at her house and we decided to watch a movie at the last minute. So divine intervention. Absolutely no question about it. And the other two probables are, I don't need to go into them, but there was a fellow who was
(03:50) hanging around my P.O. box for quite a while and I'd have to send somebody else in to pick up my mail. This is all, this is all New World Order, as I said a few moments ago. This is all what they do. They kill people. And Kucinich, not Kucinich, but I forget the congressman, huh? No, there's a congressman from Ohio. I think it's Kucinich. Yeah, he has asked for an inquiry into the CIA hit teams that are operating in this country today.
(04:24) Okay, he's asked for an inquiry, but nobody's paying attention to him. That's just one. I had I can't tell you how many illegal burglaries, illegal entries I've had into my home. It's like Grand Central Station. They're in and out of there and it's unbelievable. I took a trip when I was in Nebraska. I was gone for about three weeks. I came back and I had my research, 500 boxes of research over a period of years, stored in the third bedroom.
(05:01) They helped themselves to 200 boxes of my research. Okay, they're in and out of my car on a regular basis. I can, right here in L.A., I parked down, I remember parking down downtown and I came back and they turn, they do this all the time, turn the direction signal on. I guess I start, I start the car, the direction signal's on. I had my car stolen twice. I had my brake lines cut. I had two windows shot out when I was standing nearby.
(05:32) They were intimidating me. They weren't real bullets, fortunately. They were air bullets and that's what they're trying to do, they're trying to intimidate me. I've been poisoned in Las Vegas. I was poisoned and what they did there, they had, the only way they could have poisoned me is they had a condominium next to me and they were pumping poison in through the air ducts.
(05:56) I had my, let's see, my right front tire come off between, I was driving between Omaha and Lincoln, 60 miles, 75 miles an hour, the right front tire came off. Highway patrol came, looked at it, it was Johnny Camp's pickup truck, by the way. I had gone from Lincoln to Omaha to talk to a source and the only way they would know that was by tapping John's telephones and I found out, the highway patrolman looked at it, he says, hey, your lug nuts have been loosened and they tried to loosen the lug nuts on the left front tire but somebody must have interrupted them because
(06:39) they weren't successful there. They wanted both tires to come off at the same time. My mail has been opened, diverted, and intercepted. My phone was cut off once and I called the phone company, I said, hey, you discontinued my phone, why? They said, well, we sent you a bill, you didn't pay it. I said, where'd you send it? They sent it to a fictitious address in Florida, never heard of it.
(07:02) I've had mail disappear, people writing, written to me and I've never received it. Surveillances are almost a daily occurrence and what I do is I do U-turns on them and get around behind them and chase them and they try to intimidate me. Look, I've been, I was in a gun battle in Memphis, Tennessee at the airport. If they're going to intimidate me, they're not going to intimidate me. I'm not afraid of them. I've dealt with terrorists when I was in the FBI and I have a, I remember when they, back in about 90 or 91, they put a dirt bag out,
(07:48) just parked across the street, maybe four or five cars up, and I would see them there and I'd put on my gun, go out and get in my car, drive by at three miles an hour, stare them down, do a U-turn, three miles an hour, stare them down, then I'd park in behind them and they couldn't get out of there fast enough. One of them ran a red light and I chased another one and cornered him on, on the street, blocked him and I reached under my front seat like I was going for a piece
(08:18) and his eyes got big as saucers and I was on a street with him, went up the hill and down, it was one way, I went up and down and parked at the bottom of the hill and then he started coming up and I was watching the rear view mirror, I could see the top of the car and when he saw me he stopped and backed up the wrong way in a one-way street. By the way, I've got some pretty good license numbers, a lot of license numbers that I'm saving.
(08:44) My business has been sabotaged, Virginia McCulloch, I've had telephone taps, I sued GTE back in the 80s, got an out-of-court settlement, I've had threatening phone calls, I came back from a trip once and I got up in the morning, I was looking for a file on a desk and I had a phone call, 827, the voice said, male voice said, did you find your file? Click. They had a hidden camera in my house, I was gassed on the free, attempted gassed on the freeway, they gassed my
(09:23) webmaster, Clarence Malcolm, I've interrupted two attempts to steal my car, I've had flat tires, in one instance I had three nails in the same tire, that's a little more than a coincidence I think, I've had my gun stolen, I had four guns stolen out of my house in Nebraska, I sleep with a gun under my pillow, I have third combat magnum and one day, this is a couple years ago, I check it regularly, I checked it and somebody had come in and taken the bullets out of it.
(10:00) So, if they came in on me, I was going to have to throw the gun at them, I guess. Cameras, they've taken pictures of me. I've been, my webmaster was hit with uranium-235. I know for a fact I've had a trash cover on me. My computer has been sabotaged. I've been expelled from the ex-agent society. I've had, I've talked about my plans, the disinformation program, McCulloch, Horowitz, and so forth. Those are just the life of a person who dares to take them on.
(10:40) Also, I might mention that in the early 1980s, I had four investigations on me, I know, because I applied through the Freedom of Information Act. And one of the reports came, and they sent me back. It wasn't anything significant, a couple of pages on the report. And they said, in the interest of, quote, national security, we can't give you the full file. But it's kind of interesting, because one of the reports at the end said that they consider me armed and dangerous.
(11:07) Okay, well I am armed and dangerous, with knowledge, right? Thanks. Thank you, sir. Pam Fawcett, they put a girl on me, Pam Fawcett. The EA and the FBI. I dealt with her on the phone for six months, she was in Modesto. Tried to set me up on a drug deal. And she called me one day and said, I need to talk to you. She came down, I met her at the time, I think it was Hughes Market or Ralph's Market, across from this place on Ventura Boulevard, the Sportsman's Lodge.
(11:45) And she told me the whole story, about how they had tried to set me up through her and drugs through her. And I said, Pam, why are you coming over to my side now? I had the names of the FBI agent and the EA agents who dealt with her. She said, and I was trying to help her on the phone, I tried to help her with her 14-year-old kid, he got in trouble down in Florida. And she said, I woke up the other morning, and I realized you're the only honest son of a bitch I've talked to in six months.
(12:14) Those were her exact words. Pam took a polygraph, passed it, and last time I talked to her, she said there was a hit on her. Oh, here's Kucinich, Dennis Kucinich, that was it. This is in American Free Press, April the 6th, 2009. Dennis calls for probe of U.S. hit team. So, what do we have? Well, we have the NSA and the FBI teamed up with AT&T and Verizon to spy on U.S. citizens. This is all documented. President Bush reauthorized a secret program more than 30 times to spy on Americans since September 11th, 2001.
(12:52) U.S. government and NSA has tapped its entire Internet system. FBI can hear everything you say even when cell phones are off. The code word for this program is Quantico. All pay phones at Grand Central Station in New York are tapped. The Bush administration began spying on Americans seven months prior to 9-1-1. President authorized our intelligence agencies to database every citizen in the U.S. seven months prior to September 11th.
(13:22) Project Endgame, the rounding up of 775,000 Americans by the shadow government, began on February 24th, 2009. Two of my very closest friends, very frankly, have disappeared. I don't know what's happened to them. We have thousands of guillotines that were shipped in here from Japan and Atlanta, Georgia. We have 500,000 caskets that hold 40 bodies in each casket. We have 1,000 internment camps around the country.
(13:58) We have censors on the major highways every quarter of a mile. I talked to one of the installers. He's right here in California. Censors. Keep track of your car. Censors, yeah. Did I pronounce it right or wrong? I was right? Okay. I went to school in Nebraska, so I have an excuse sometimes. We have the Patriot Act. I don't tell you about the Patriot Act. I'm sure you're aware of that. Okay. The Constitution violations and the amendments that they've done away with through the Patriot Act are...
(14:44) Got them here someplace. All of them. Probably all of them. Yeah, here they are. Sixth Amendment, right to a speedy trial. Eighth Amendment, no cruel and unusual punishment. Thirteenth Amendment, punishment without conviction. It took 262 Republicans and 77 Democrats to kill the Bill of Rights. This is all part, as I said earlier, of the terrorist movement. I told you about the guillotines, the caskets. We have U.S. troops in the United States, Holloman Air Force Base, Air Force, German Air Force.
(15:34) A girl, a lady came up to me back in the 90s and said that she was from New Mexico. She deliberately dated a German airman from Holloman to find out what they were doing here. He said, when the revolution starts, we're going to strafe the cities. Beatrice, Nebraska, where I lived for a short period. A town of 12,500. They have an air, on the base there, they have an airport. The airport is more, the runway is more than a mile long.
(16:09) There's no commercial airplanes come in there. It's all private. They are expanding the length of the airport. Why? So bigger planes can land there, I guess. There's no commercial planes coming in, over a mile long now. The chemtrails, one of my sources told me, that the planes in the north, midwest, chemtrails are out of the Air National Guard, Lincoln, Nebraska. I made a trip to the airport and I found four giant airplanes with no markings on them on the runway at the Air National Guard.
(16:53) Another informant told me Fort Sill, Oklahoma, is what they're using in the southwest United States. Okay, that kind of gives you, I think I laid the foundation pretty well, didn't I? That just tells you what they're after. I'm not the only victim. There's thousands of Americans out there. By the way, I've been shot with a laser beam twice in my back. Fortunately, they're not very good aims. My webmaster, Clarence Malcolm, has been shot also.
(17:26) Of course, one of the best ways for you to stay alive is to do what you're doing. Really? Oh, absolutely. Reduce this to video. Get this scattered all over the country. They won't touch you because if you're dead, that validates everything you're saying. Will they poison people? Publicity is the best thing you can do. One of the things that was happening to me after, oh, I must tell you about General Joy. I found his name all through the diary.
(17:57) And what was really strange was that George had mentioned him earlier, early on in the marriage, but then after a certain incident at Camp Lejeune, which I think is very interesting relating to tailhook and something that I did there. I'll tell you about that if I can remember. I called. It took a lot for me to get General Joy's phone number because the Marine colonels were not going to tell me because they knew I was investigating.
(18:32) So nobody would tell me about General Joy. So I called a person in George's address book who was a general, pretending that I was updating my Christmas card list, and I just wanted to find Jim Joy's telephone number. He said, oh, he's up there. He's running Morale Welfare Recreation for the world, a payoff job with the mob, and he's living outside of Quantico, and here's his phone number. So I call him up.
(19:07) And keep in mind, my husband is infamous, Princeton graduate, chief of staff for Al Gray, who runs all the dirty tricks for the Army. Linda Tripp worked for Carl Steiner, who was a partner of Jim Joy, and Carl Steiner and my husband were the triumvirate in Beirut. Linda Tripp worked for Carl Steiner down there. This would be approximately? I think in the 80s. She and her husband were both Delta Force duos.
(19:45) They sent them, but then they divorced, so that broke up that. But she's a dirty tricks person, Linda. Anyway, so I call General Joy, and I say, General Joy, this is Kay Griggs. And I'm George Griggs' wife, you know, Chief of Staff under Al Bray, Head of Half the World, Dirty Tricks, Special Operations, Wet Ops. And he goes, No, I don't believe I know your husband. Exactly his words. And I'm taping it, by the way, because they took my tape.
(20:18) They started coming in and doing, putting sticky stuff and running my, you know, just mind, mind-jagging me. Putting sticky stuff? On the tapes. And they would put the tapes on different, you know, they would go to a lot of trouble. They would take things that I said on one tape and put it on another. And I mean, it was, they were having fun with me psychologically. But I taped this conversation with General Joy. And I said, Well, that's really strange, General Joy, that you don't know my husband, because
(20:57) I'm sitting here on my bed, and I'm looking at my husband's diary that he kept the whole time he was in Beirut. And you're in there almost on every page, you know, you're in there a lot. And you're going over to Cyprus and Rome, and you're, you know, getting money for weapons, and, you know, and then they're going to Tel Aviv, and they're doing this and that. And, and, you know, I said, You mean, you don't know my husband, George Griggs,
(21:29) and you're a Marine, and he's a Colonel? He went, Oh, that George Griggs. Because he knew I had the diary. I see. Then he said, Oh, Miss Griggs, let me call you back. Let me call you back. So he had to confer with General Sheehan, General Joy, General Gaiman, General Hartsog, and his little cabal, particularly General Gray and General Krulak. So he called me back, and he was just like a little puppy dog.
(22:10) He said, Oh, Miss Griggs, I'm going to be in Norfolk on the, let's see, the night of the 5th, 6th, and 7th. I'll be at a Morale Welfare Recreation meeting at the Marriott Hotel, and I would like to meet with you when I get there. You know, I'll be getting in around 5 o'clock, and I could meet, take, we could go to dinner, or you could come and have breakfast the next morning. We could eat, you know, blah, blah, blah. Or 11 o'clock, you know, now I have to speak at this luncheon engagement.
(22:44) You're welcome to come to that, or we can meet at, he went through every hour of the whole time. He could not have been more insistent about meeting me if he, if he'd been my father, you know, my birthday or something. And, um, so. So you did meet? I did, but I wasn't, I was afraid of him, because I knew he was an assassin. General Joy. General Jim Joy, the one who got Noriega out of Panama. He and Sheehan, the one who was behind the whole operation in Panama. This is a powerful guy.
(23:35) He and Carl Steiner, Mutt and Jeff, Waco, they trained all the guys in Waco who went and did what they did to David Koresh. They're the ones behind all the black helicopters, and Sheehan, they're the ones, you know, doing all the stuff down there at Kathy McDaniels, down at, um, you know, in Fort Polk, Fort Hood. Something new on me. Kathy McDonald, Daniels? Kathy McDaniels had a little talk show. She's a wife of, um, the daughter of the mayor down there at Fort Polk.
(24:12) Okay. The little town outside of Fort Polk, and there were a lot of unusual things happening, and because she was talking about it, excuse me, they took her, her radio show off the air, and, um, they tried to, it's a long story, but anyway, so General Joy, I got in contact with the NCIS. That's Fort Polk in Louisiana. Yeah, yeah, but I met with the NCIS guy and, um, and a Marine that I just met cold call, because I was kind of worried about what would happen
(24:54) to me, um, you know, meeting him. So, may I, may I go to the ladies' room? Certainly may, matter of fact, Steve suggests that we break. I've had to sort of go to the ladies', that's why I've been sort of antsy. Steve suggests we break at five after, and, uh, I think it's a good idea. Let's, let's break in, um, and we'll pick up, right, we're just a little bit of a recap here.
(25:17) All right, a little bit about your background, uh, about the psychological profile these guys look for. Um, let's see, we've discussed the, uh, the diary. We've discussed, uh, Kaddok and, uh, Alexander, um, Robinson. Robinson, couldn't read my writing. Thank you. Um, and, uh, I have a picture of Kaddok. Yes, I noted that. We're going to inject that. We'll inject, in fact, we should, we should have a little session here where we just go through pictures at the tail end of this. Pictures, picture, picture, picture, picture.
(25:57) Um, we discussed, uh, Tailhook and, uh, uh, Sarah. You know what Tailhook means, don't you? No, what is Tailhook? Uh-oh, I got a feeling. Yeah. Is it a homosexual reference? Yeah, sure. Really? Sure. Did you know that, Steve? Isn't it something? Yeah. The average person on the street has no idea. No. You know, it's like Watergate. Well, the Watergate Hotel, that makes sense.
(26:27) And Tailhook probably is some reference to, uh, you know, I honestly thought it was, um, when you refuel a jet or something. It is, it is, but you look, see, the planes look like this, because see, I was told this by, by Jerry Unruh, and Jerry Unruh was a captain when I met him. We were just partying, you know, I had a group of gals, and we were all school friends, and everybody hung around this place called Poppy's in Virginia Beach. It was the place in the, in the mid-80s when I was at the Virginia Center for World Trade.
(26:56) Well, he, Jerry was in there, um, he's an intelligence operative with, uh, Scrocoff, Crow, you know, this whole McFarlane, Ed Wilson, who's a really good friend of my husband's, who's a really bad guy. Anyway, they're all doing, some of them are doing this Rush River Lodge thing, you know, which Angleton was doing, where Woodward would go to these big orgy parties, and George went to a few of those. But this, you see, is the, the plane, and it kind of looks like that. Okay. And it refuels.
(27:37) See, that's what the hook is for. That's called the tail hook. Yes. Uh-huh. But it has a double meaning. A double entendre, sure. Because it, and I went to the preceding show two weeks ago, and they had the tail hook booth, and I have some stuff, I don't think I have it with me, but tail hook souvenirs, because they are really trying to promote that, you know, the charitable function of that organization. Yes, of course.
(28:05) Now, the fact that that cover got blown on those tail hook, uh, things, that was a major snafu, right? Uh, she had to try very hard to get that out. That was at Camp Lejeune? No, it, I think it was, um, in Las Vegas. Okay. But, oh, my thing went on in Camp Lejeune before tail hook, and this is why I got flagged. Oh. Because I stopped all the go-go dancers in the office clubs, and they got very mad with me. Oh. I can tell you that story. It's true.
(28:38) Yeah, but why, um, you didn't realize what you're doing at the time? No, I was just incensed, you know, that they would allow topless, um, women, young girls in the officers club dining room while I was trying to eat late one night, and George says, well, you know, you just have to get used to it. If you think this is anything, you ought, you ought to see what goes on in Okinawa. Well, this was, this was, uh, 91, 90. It was before tail hook, and the Lord is always with me.
(29:11) Sometimes I don't know where He is, but this particular night, it was about nine o'clock, and I was starving, and I was really mad because His reaction wasn't, um, I'm sorry, this, you know, this is offensive. Do you want to go in town to eat or something? He didn't do that. He attacked me. It was a chance to educate me the way they were educated. I see. Get used to it, bitch. You know, excuse my French, but that's really what He was trying to do. Well, they were all young married officers.
(29:47) Now, I worked at the chamber, and this is taxpayer money. This looks bad. They had, you know, wedding bands. And one of the guys, two of the guys, goes out with one of the girls. So I'm going, after having said, Don't you see anything wrong with this picture? And getting no background, I thought, Oh boy, I've got a camera in my pocketbook. I am going to see Marty and Oogie, my old roommate from St. Mary's, little Episcopal Junior College in Raleigh, North Carolina.
(30:24) And I said, Whoa! Little Lucille Ball comes out, and I just kind of grab that little camera with the flash, and I get me three little flashes of scattering people. Just because the camera is going off. Yes. So that said to me, it proved to him, God, truth is light, light is truth. You know, hey, this isn't. I mean, God proved it. I didn't do it. I didn't argue. I just took pictures. They scattered. Then what happened?
(30:57) What happened to the pictures? Well, he, I, he tried to grab my camera. He? My husband. Right. But there were still some men in there, you see, and two of the girls. And they were looking at me like, You are, the girls were probably thinking, Oh, you know, but the guys, they saw older colonel, chief of staff here, wife. It was bad from the perspective of me being a wife witnessing this being ordered to, to shut up.
(31:30) So I took the camera when he wanted to grab it from me. And I went like this. I mean, it was real battle time, major. My brother was a championship wrestler, you know, and I don't know anything about holes, but I knew this was self-preservation time. And I just said, well, I'm going to the ladies' room, ha. So I went to the ladies' room and I hid the darn thing. And he wanted to know where it was. We had a major battle.
(31:59) But the end thing that happened was I wrote a nice letter, found out the name of the manager of the club, because I knew protocol. I knew you can't go and just really mess everybody up. And I sent a letter saying, Is this normal to have it to the club manager? But I sent copies of the pictures and the letter to the wife of the general commander of the base and the wife of the commandant. Oh, man. You wanted to get in trouble.
(32:33) With the pictures. Uh-huh. No, I mean, I was... Oh, you thought you were going to... Helping the wives. Yeah. The wives, at this point, no doubt, are privy to all this stuff, right? Yeah. See, I thought, in the real world, this is what you do. Uh-huh. But what happened was I went home, and the wives were meeting there, and I told them what I had done, and Carol and Millis said, Oh, no, you didn't do that, did you?
(33:02) George won't get promoted. You know, he was trying to make general. Uh-huh. But Louis Buell had already died. He wouldn't have made general anyway because of Sue. I already found out about that. But I didn't know that at the time. Uh-huh. But Charlotte Moore, whose family are better educated, and she's kind of the leader of the pack because she's more rational than the rest of the wives, she said, Kay, thank you very much.
(33:33) We appreciate what you did for us. And then all the rest of them kind of, you know, they're like little puppets too. But then I found out from Brooks West that I was flagged, that General Gray had me marked as a troublemaker. Gotcha. So after that, no more stories while he's drinking. You know, it was a very, he was having to balance them and me. You know, he was, I think he was challenged by me because, you know, he knew that I was a free spirit.
(34:19) He didn't understand Christ. He didn't understand what my boundaries are. But he, because he was a little bit intimidated by my sense of freedom and my, you know, openness, which comes from a complete understanding of where Christ is in my life. You know, and I do, I follow in his footsteps. But I'm a free spirit because I'm created independently, as we all are. And he never had, my husband never had that ability to be free
(34:54) from the time he was a teenager. Because early on he was made captive to these other matters, homosexual counters and the shame that that brings and the control. So he was a bent twig early on. Yeah. And he had, the Saudis were beginning to pile into Russell House at the Hun School in Princeton, which is the school that my husband was in for four years on scholarship. He never saw his parents in eight years.
(35:30) Now think about this, his parents were shipped to California, I believe, strategically so that they could control his mind. Okay. He was too poor to fly out there. I think he did go one time when he was ROTC on a flight that took him forever and a day to get out there. But he had an uncle later on who bought a house in Princeton when he was in college, so he had a little bit of nurturing. And this uncle became his father.
(36:11) Okay. And this uncle's two sons and the next-door neighbor, the next-door neighbor became his wife. He knew he had to marry because of what he had gone through, and it was, I think, so shameful and so hard on him that he married right at graduation day practically from Princeton University, where he had four years in ROTC. And he was in the Cap and Gown Club, which, as I mentioned before, is an intelligent sort of football kind of scholarship club.
(36:58) But what's interesting is my uncle, who was an intelligence, Ben Delaney, went through exactly the same hoops. I was thinking, you know, when I met my husband, this is, and it probably was God in many ways, but I thought, isn't it amazing that Uncle Ben, who was the football quarterback star for Princeton, the one year they won the whole national thing, he was, he went to the Hun School. His father and mother were both killed or something happened to them,
(37:35) and I think they were a fairly well-to-do, prominent family. He was handsome, wonderful, just a neat man. So he went on scholarship to the Hun. And then, and he went and was crew and all these other things. He was in Cap and Gown. He was, he played on the football team. He wasn't a cheerleader. My husband was a cheerleader. But they were in exactly the same pattern, ROTC scholarship. They went, left ROTC. They were dependent on the government, on the intelligence community,
(38:19) you know, selling weapons to whatever country. I know the country, but in other words, they were doing work for the joint under the table all these years. Okay, and directly under whose instructions to sell these weapons? Do you know that? Yeah. Okay, who would that be? Well, it's the Israeli Zionist group in New York. Mossad? Well, yeah, but everybody thinks Mossad like they think. CIA is just a bogus sort of thing.
(38:59) It's really Army intelligence that does just about everything. They run a lot of the psychological profiling, which is done at Quantico with the FBI. It's all a very small group, Harvard professors connected with, you know, the Tavistock and Dar Es Salaam, and there's a sexual perversion group in Vienna and one in Colorado. I think that little girl was part of that experiment, you know, who was part of it.
(39:34) The John Bonnet-Ramsey? Yeah, yeah, because I had some. Well, you know, that raises an interesting point because here's a high-profile murder that goes nowhere. No investigation. Nobody's pinned. It just goes on and on and on. The parents are involved in that program. But somebody higher up is protecting them. Absolutely. And the same thing that you're describing about the military. Sure. If you're in the clique, you can get away with murder.
(39:59) Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Murder, literally murder. And I had a group of visitors. I used to be set up by the State Department, my husband, who had power in the State Department, through both Casper Weinberger and, well, his whole crowd. I mean, Casper Weinberger, George Bush, Colby, Casey. My husband was in that clique. He was in the Princeton Marine Corps clique. Rob, Warner, you know, they're all Marines. Pat Robertson, all 4th Marines.
(40:35) I mean, they're all involved in this. They know, they're running everything. Well, you mentioned Pat Robertson. You're talking about the 700 Club, Pat Robertson. Yeah, there's a power thing there. And it's all male, it's all white, and they do, they know the murders are going on. They're surgical, they're strategic, they're political. But what I was going to tell you is, I was used because I was the most gullible in high school.
(41:11) And I'm very, very spiritual. And I love people. So, and I was driven to meet all these people from all over the world for some reason. So, they would feed me people because they knew I would react. It's kind of like Monica and Bill. I think they put Monica in there to have something on Bill. That's my own feeling. Sarah MacLennan feels the same way because... And Linda Tripp was there to guide the situation.
(41:46) Absolutely. Of course, Linda Tripp was Delta Force. Linda Tripp was trained by Carl Steiner, who's in the diary with my husband. Carl Steiner is called a snake, and he tried to trip up a Schwarzkopf. I mean, he was trying to take the whole Iraqi thing over because they had been baiting, you know, using their, the Israeli rogues in Turkey. They were having little zigzag wars. It's all to sell weapons. It's all, it's all about weapon sales. It's all about drugs. It's all about funny money.
(42:23) Making money. Of course. And the head, Krulak, who is the commandant of the Marine Corps, his father, Victor Krulak, worked with this Russian Czechoslovakian double agent who was, worked with Al Gray, who was enlisted at that time. Rose right up to the top because they were involved with Butcher and this whole crowd that was trying to pick fights. And, and they were not, they were Army and Navy together, joint.
(43:04) And George kept saying, George calls them the members of the firm. He calls them the members of the firm. I've heard the Brotherhood. They're very close and it's a small group and it's very hierarchical. I had Casper Weinberger's bodyguard farm me when I was at Sarah McLendon's. Now, farm you. Yeah, that's a term that, that they use. Where they cultivate. They cultivate, well not cultivate, but just want to find out kind of, they're doing profiling on me. Women are hard to profile because we're, we're very easy.
(43:41) We, we're very easy if you understand women. And I think they need more women in human intelligence because we'd solve a lot of these problems like overpopulation or whatever it is very quickly. Because we, we, we're the ones who teach the men how to talk, how to communicate. We think on 20 levels at once. You know, we're very spiritual. We're very practical all at the same time. And they make mistakes by pegging women as crazy when really they're very anxious to solve problems.
(44:21) They're just very frustrated to see a lot of wacko things going on that don't need to be going on, but the guys don't see it. So, with, with my husband and so forth, I was used, they profiled me. They knew I loved international people because I'd already demonstrated that. And there was a group of sexual psychologists, psychiatrists from Vienna who came over. I have pictures of them. I was their escort.
(44:54) George was already gone and I was intrigued that they were still sending me people. Okay, now you referred to him as sexual psychologist? Yeah, there's a whole, whole range of, of psychiatrists who study perversion, sexual perversion. Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, and this Colorado group, Dar es Salaam, where they train the African, the black African terrorists. They train them in interrogation. They train the Jags in interrogation methods and so forth.
(45:34) And a lot of these guys got their experience in Vietnam. Intentionally, they took these little boys. That's what they're doing in Bosnia right now. They're training future leaders in, in perversion. They have a school, they have, the British have a school that George was working with in Indonesia for a year. My husband was setting up a, there was already a program on East Timor, a little place there in the mountains, that had been set up by the Australians during World War II.
(46:15) It was involved, I think, with Burma and, you know, some of the, the killings that were going on in China and so forth. That Parker Host, T. Parker Host, this man who now controls my husband with, with Bob Edwards, T. Parker Host, this is how they got together. T. Parker Host, I knew when I was the assistant director of the Virginia Center for World Trade. I was the first woman on the board of the Foreign Commerce Club. I was very involved politically and I was having a ball. And I met T.
(46:55) Parker Host through someone else. I was the chairman of a board of all these international shippers and brokers. I was just a, you know, sort of a glorified secretary, public relations person. Now, T. Parker Host was the Finnish consul and the, at one time he'd been the Norwegian consul, the Icelandic consul. I thought he was a really nice guy because he was outgoing, he seemed Virginian.
(47:38) I didn't know that much about him, but it turns out he, he has one shipping agency when I meet him in 85. He knows my husband's profession instantly because he brags about being with the mobs. He, the mob runs the port of Norfolk. The, the, I mean, it's terrible to say, the bankers and then that. Then they have the, this is not, I can't say that. You can't say what? No, it's, the ports are run by, it's a homosexual hierarchy. Okay, it makes sense. That's not an objection.
(48:12) Well, okay, and in Norfolk it's Walter Kreisler, Phil Hornthal, you know, they have the rich ones and then they, they get the little ones in by introducing him to the, to the big guys. It's like George met Einstein. Einstein was in that little, little ring that the Saudis were in. It was a very elite. No, you're saying Einstein? Albert Einstein was, was in that little Princeton ring before he died. George, they, they partied together.
(48:39) Anyway, so the Norfolk crowd runs the port. It's very organized and so forth, and I knew the person who was running the Maritime Association shipping agency. Very nice man who was that way, but I didn't know it, you know. I went out with him. I like him very much. I mean, he's a very nice person, but I, you know, and I... And completely homosexual. Completely, but, but he liked me and I thought he was wonderful. Many homosexuals are very engaging people. Yeah, he's a very, very nice guy.
(49:18) Well, his best friend was T. Parker Host. Park, he lived with him for a while. Well, I didn't think anything about Parker because, you know, he'd been married and had a couple of sons, and I thought, well, you know, this is just a guy who's moved away from Newport News for some reason and settled in Norfolk. I thought it was unusual. He didn't have any friends, you know. I didn't know, and, but it wasn't because of that. It was because Parker had some questionable...
(50:00) associations with mob figures, with assassins. He was in the Burma Special Operations Command. He liked living a dangerous life, and he bragged about it to others. My husband and he gravitated to one another, and I thought it was wonderful because my husband didn't seem to have any friends. So, I sort of fixed him up with Parker. Well, Parker's the one who did me in, you know. Parker plotted, and it's a long story, but basically, and this sounds petty, but I wouldn't
(50:43) go out with him. And I'm not saying I did anything that was, it's just that he wasn't my type. Mm-hmm. Obviously. You know, well, I mean, not, but he just was, he's boorish, he's loud, he's kind of rude. So, you're saying even just in a social context. Yeah. So, what happened was, because my husband is so close to Bush and McFarlane and Scowcroft and all these guys, Parker starts getting in with my husband's friends and cultivating them,
(51:19) and he goes from having one shipping agency to dotted all over the place. He goes from being a Democrat in petty little Virginia politics and being the Icelandic Finnish consul to having big shipping deals going through Iceland and Finland and Norway, and my husband's setting up deals in Moss, Norway, which I was the president of the Sister City Association. I was being used while my husband, while they were setting up, you know, shipment places,
(51:50) transshipment places. I mean, I was witnessing all of this, and it all came back to me, just boom, like that. But Parker, it was so interesting. We had a hearing. I had a hearing with my husband. That very day, George Bush was in town. My husband was in town. My home was broken into while I was in court. Very strategically, I was called by a Marine colonel named Jack, who is very involved with the maritime shipping business, and he knew that I know a lot about
(52:31) that. He called me and invited me as a guest of his to attend the George Bush huge banquet with John Warner while my house was being robbed. My car was sabotaged that day, and guess who introduced George Bush? T. Parker Host. Now, he made it to the big time. You know, Alexander Haig is another one. You can help yourself to a coffee. Yeah, he's a friend. Alexander Haig, he rose from nothing to top dog just overnight. That's because he's in the club.
(53:15) Oh, of course he's in the club. Now, how he's in the club, you see. Now, all these guys. Henry Kissinger, Heinz Kissinger. Oh, I have a story. This, oh, we all suspect Henry's a queer. Oh, yeah, I have a first, I have a firsthand story from Bob, who was there in Cambodia with Heinz. Okay, you call him Heinz? Henry. Yeah, okay. Heinz, his real name is Heinz Kissinger. Okay, we'll straighten out. We got a light that fell down, boys.
(53:38) Do you notice that? We got to be alert to notice all these little things, and that's very hot, by the way. Haig was an army. Just a second. Let's get this straight here, because that is a hot light, and you'll burn your fingers if you don't touch it. By the way, as long as we're kind of in an unofficial break here. Did you have to read my note while I was writing it? I didn't see just part of it. When I was writing it, or only when I held it up?
(54:07) When you held it up over here. Okay. Well, I was starting to write. I wrote, widen her a bit, and then I looked up. Well, lo and behold, he's done it. So I thought, well, he maybe could read this, or my shoulder. That's cool. And then. Oh, you saw it and interpreted. You could read it from here. Oh, that's cute. This is, oh, y'all are wonderful. What a team. What a team you are. You could, thank you. Yeah, okay.
(54:32) Actually, all you got to do, if you write it just tip up a little bit, I'll. Okay, because the thing of it, when she's illustrating something and using her hands, well, then seize on that and open it up so that we don't lose the lower part of her hands, you know, not far enough down to where, you know, strategically, we get out of focus, but just, that's cool. All right. We're back. And this is good.
(54:52) Let's go back to, see, we want to talk about Henry Kissinger, but also, I introduced the idea about George Bush. Three, two, one. Now, so George Bush, I mean, all these people rise up to the ranks, the same club. No wonder, you know, I saw a little TV clip one time, where a reporter was asking George Bush and others about the, the Order of the Skull and Bones. All these guys were shocked that somebody mentioned the term, and they, they just would not discuss it at all.
(55:31) And the reporter said, I understand that, that as part of the oath, you don't discuss it. And George just flat out said, it's just not to be discussed. And that was the end of the subject. Now, it's because, I mean, if this really got out, that these guys are all inducted because they've got some kind of homosexual thing on them. Indoctrination, I mean, or indoctrination. They have to do that. They do that.
(55:59) In a coffin, and, and it's even now coming into the military totally. The chiefs do that. They put them in the coffin. They do the bowling ball trick. Okay, you've got to explain this. What happens when you get in the coffin? Why do you get in a coffin? Oh, they, they get, when, when you get your eagles, that's a German thing. You know, it's what the German high command did. And most of them, you know, had the boyfriends and stuff, the troops and, and all of that.
(56:29) It is a German thing that they say goes back to Greece, and it's all the male marine looking men that they, they do it with. So now the chiefs have to do that. What they do is they get, George said, it's like a zoo. They, they get everybody really drunk, and they sometimes call it dining in. Shellback is another time that they do it. Not everybody does it, but the ones who do it, if they're young, they, they get right up to the top. It's a... Okay, well, what actually do they do? They've got a coffin, they get inside... Fatal sex.
(57:13) Oh, oh, that they, they do. They put them in the coffin, and they do things. Okay, they perform things on each other. Yeah, yeah, while they're all around there going drunk. I see, so there's a guy in the coffin. Yeah, and he's the one who is the recipient of all the acts. Right, right. Probably safe to conclude these are oral sex acts on this guy or something like that. Yeah, oral and anal, whatever. But, but what's the significance of the coffin? I don't know.
(57:37) It's the mystique about the skull and bones. What's interesting is the, now, the young SEALs, Delta Force, the ones who go from Army to BUDS, the BUDS training SEALs, all are... BUDS. BUDS is...