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Our Stories - Faith Assembly - An Interview With John Schell - Episode 221 Podcast
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John Collins invites John Schell, a former member of Faith Assembly, to explore the personal and theological impacts of the group's doctrines. The conversation delves into topics such as the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship, healing ministries, and the anti-medicine stance adopted by Hobart Freeman’s Faith Assembly. John Schell recounts how the group discouraged medical intervention, leading to numerous preventable deaths, and shares personal stories of individuals who suffered under the influence of the doctrine. The episode highlights how the doctrine of divine healing, along with positive confession practices, created an environment where individuals were pressured to deny their health conditions and refuse medical care in favor of faith healing.
Throughout the episode, the host and guest critically analyze the harmful impact of the movement's extreme beliefs, particularly around healing and deliverance. The discussion brings out the complexities of leaving such movements, where indoctrination can blur reality and make it difficult to recognize the destructive nature of the group's teachings. John Schell emphasizes how his time in Faith Assembly shaped his faith journey and reflects on how the movement, through its emphasis on miracles and supernatural experiences, drew in many followers who were eager to witness divine intervention but were ultimately let down by unfulfilled promises.
00:00 Introduction
01:09 Faith Assembly Origins and Personal Background
02:35 Joining the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Fellowship
05:11 Meetings and Practices of the Full Gospel Businessmen
06:46 Connection Between Faith Assembly and the Full Gospel Businessmen
09:42 Hobart Freeman’s Anti-Medicine Doctrine
13:06 Impact of Positive Confession on Medical Decisions
18:22 Theological Concerns and Scripture Misuse in Faith Assembly
20:59 Prophecies and the Influence of the NAR
24:03 Children and Family Life in Faith Assembly
30:15 The Appeal of Miracles in Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements
36:55 Faith and Healing Extremes in the Movement
44:02 Exit from Faith Assembly and Reflections on Leaving
47:14 Advice for Those Considering Leaving Similar Movements
52:29 Closing Thoughts on the Harm of Indoctrination
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