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Our Stories: Escape From NAR - MorningStar Ministries - With Rebecca Ludwig - Episode 211 Podcast
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John invites Rebecca Ludwig to discuss her personal experiences in various churches associated with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and related movements. It opens with her traumatic childhood experiences involving intense fear of the Rapture and carries through to her involvement with churches tied to NAR. Rebecca shares the details of manipulation, control, and spiritual abuse within these churches, particularly highlighting Rick Joyner’s MorningStar Ministries and Todd Bentley’s ministry.
Rebecca’s story touches on her efforts to serve in ministry, the pressure to join the Knights of Malta, and accusations against her that led to her being sidelined in these churches. The conversation also brings up revelations of sexual misconduct, unethical behavior, and false prophetic practices. Throughout the discussion, both John Collins, the host, and Rebecca express concern over how leaders in these movements manipulate their followers by fostering fear and confusion, often tying their ministries to questionable practices like “grave soaking.”
00:00 Introduction
02:00 Rebecca’s Early Experiences with Rapture Fear
05:00 Introduction to NAR: Involvement with MorningStar Ministries
08:00 The Knights of Malta and Church Manipulation
12:00 Spiritual and Emotional Manipulation at MorningStar
15:00 Revelations About Todd Bentley’s Ministry
18:00 Healing at MorningStar and Todd Bentley’s Influence
22:00 Reflections on Bill Johnson and “Grave Soaking”
26:00 The Reality of Spiritualism in Modern Charismatic Churches
31:00 Experiences with Prophetic Ministry and Healing
35:00 Misuse of Healing Gifts and Benny Hinn’s Influence
40:00 Realizing Manipulation: Reflection on Spiritual Abuse
45:00 Abuse in Apostolic Leadership and Tribunals
50:00 Leaving NAR Churches: Challenges and Spiritual Liberation
54:00 Conclusion: Breaking Free and the Importance of Discernment
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