134 The Dharma Path – A Real Talk on Spiritual Life (Interview with Gary Lee Haskins)

I sat with fellow spiritual youtuber Gary Lee Haskins of the 'Conscious Perspective' podcast for a conversation on spiritual life in fall 2024. We didn't know each other, but were told we should connect (thank you to Vinay Mehta who made this happen) and the result was fireworks. @GaryLee123 Live 10/13/2024, pre-recorded.

0:00 – Physical fitness vs modern society
3:35 – A.I. (artificial technology) thinks for us or helps us
8:28 – Living in darkness is relative when looking at history | living in fear | living in the greatest of times with all knowledge available | having patience
14:50 – Being a lone wolf artist desiring to help others live their best life | asking questions | you're not alone | reading Hindu scriptures on youtube
22:44 – Growing up atheist | became god believer based on Ram Das book "Miracle of Love" on Neem Karoli Baba | discovering other religions as its foundational teaching | variety of Hindu scriptures when seeking truth | philosophy away from rituals & gods
37:35 – "Pure" scriptures
39:16 – Hinduism is about being one's self vs destroying your personality
41:55 – Resonating with Hindu scriptures
42:57 – Discovering Upanishads via yoga training
46:15 – Interviewing controversial people
48:33 – How other students in yoga class responded to Upanishads
49:18 – Discussing Bhagavad Gita | doing your duty | being unique via being yourself
55:33 – Does everybody have a duty? | God's divine plan | evil in the world | all good Christian god, made in the image of god who is good & bad
1:10:02 – Life is a learning process | enlightened people who stop growing
1:12:13 – Being a good or bad person | incel culture, reacting to society
1:21:29 – Service to society | Hinduism is a way of life
1:30:35 – Intermission | experience with music interview podcast with Sophie B. Hawkins & John Wetton | successful interviews
1:38:16 – Art of conversation
1:42:50 – Value of talking to people to improve life
1:50:53 – Finding your voice & being yourself | finding inner confidence
2:00:00 – Recommendations to finding yourself | one size does not fit all | listening to yourself (referenced Gary's interview with Rahul Singh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGGKTmFW1UQ @TheBeardedMysticPodcast ) | finding stillness
2:12:10 – Disconnecting from society's distractions | finding balance
2:16:39 – Being a musician who are in touch with themselves | Lou Reed story | musicians are natural learners | discussing the power of music
2:30:43 – Music in Kandinsky's paintings
2:35:27 – Story of working with Harlem playwright Lawrence Holder on sax playing
2:38:39 – Finding harmony in our lives & singing the song of life
2:42:52 – Being part of a bigger story vs frozen in time
2:46:31 – Anton LaVey's most Satanic rock band as recorded in "Satan Speaks" book | doing your own thing | Aleister Crowley | being unique means you're controversial
2:58:12 – Darkness of life | being an adult
3:01:29 – Cannibis industry collapsing | marijuana industry as metaphor for society | honest to yourself
3:10:48 – Closing thoughts

Gary's youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GaryLee123/videos
Gary's linktree: https://linktr.ee/garylhaskins

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