Shane Cuthbert admits being police informant who dobs on Mongol bikie mates

Shane Cuthbert (12:54)
So you know how I used to talk to the police? Oh, well, they stopped talking to me in oh, maybe December-ish.

Interviewer (13:07)
Wait, this was, you were talking to them about the Mongols, right?

Shane Cuthbert (13:09)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the police stopped talking to me right around the same time, so it makes sense.

Interviewer (29:43)
Wait, so you'd been an informant for the police up until what, around January?

Shane Cuthbert (29:49)
Yeah.

Interviewer (29:50)
And what were you informing? What were you telling them?

Shane Cuthbert (29:55)
Oh... Not a lot, because they flew up here. So I was working with the gangs unit,

Interviewer (30:03)
Right

Shane Cuthbert (30:04)
So they flew up here. There's special guys that deal with ahh informants when it's like gang related, so, like, it's life threatening. Life in danger shit.

Interviewer (30:34)
This is. This is the police?

Shane Cuthbert (30:36)
Yeah.

Shane Cuthbert (34:03)
I went to Major Organized Crime and said, "hey, can you guys go.." But the office is located in a casino where all my friends are. We've got the Mongols up here now that run all the security in town. The head of the security at the casinos, my mate, he sits down with them and has coffee.

Shane Cuthbert (36:39)
And so they'll be, they obviously know now that I'm a high level informant, and so maybe that's why they haven't charged anyone with anything.

Shane Cuthbert (37:02)
All right, so hang on. Who's "they" haven't charged... So you're informing to major organized crime within the police..

Shane Cuthbert (37:09)
Yep

Shane Cuthbert (44:23)
I think they're just thinking "this guy's affiliated with gangs and stuff and got raided and now he's like infiltrating society." Like, I mean, they are scratching their heads because they're thinking, "well, hang on a second, is he, he's been an informant to us because of his connection to major organized crime and bikies." I mean here in Cairns, now we've got the Mongols are running the security. They've come up, they've opening new nightclubs and things like that. A lot of stuff happening here that I hear about.

Interviewer (45:55)
Yeah, but how do you hear about it?

Shane Cuthbert (45:57)
Just everyone in my contracts, I really am, and I really have infiltrated. Um, I speak to everyone everywhere.

Interviewer (48:24)
Okay, but if you inform to them about Mongols.Then how would you inform to Mongols about them? Like, they don't give you any information about what they're doing presumably.

Shane Cuthbert (48:36)
Oh they do. I get some info.

Interviewer (48:40)
Like what? Why would police be, be telling informants information that the informants can then go back...

Shane Cuthbert (48:48)
Because I've built good relationships with people. Like, yeah, I've been able to find some things out when I need to, but I've also, I'm friends of cops, like, just general cops here too, that tell me shit as well. Because if they're investigation gets anything, right, and then I get charged with something, and then I go to court and go, "well, your honor, they can't use that information because I was also giving them that same information at the same time."

Interviewer (49:45)
I still don't understand how. How did you come to start being an informant in the first place? Like, how did you go from, okay, you're making money, Mongol. The Mongols are paying you a lot of money. Like, how much money would you say that you made from them?

Shane Cuthbert (50:03)
I don't know, half a mil, maybe more.

Interviewer (50:06)
All right, so the Mongols have paid you half a mil or more, and you've just decided one day to go, "oh, you know what? Even though I'm making good money from them, I'll just go and dob on them to the cops", like, with the police offer you money as well?

Shane Cuthbert (50:21)
All I can say is that I am Shane Cuthbert.(laughs) I knew then when I got raided that I was under investigation. I knew there was probably a couple of things they could probably try to charge me with if they wanted to. I knew that if I could get my foot in the door and sit down with the cops and start confessing to some shit, they then could not charge me with those crimes because they would be like, oh, well, when it gets to court later on, they would be like, "oh, we've charged you with these crimes." And then I say, "yeah, but I wasn't informant, and I told them all about those crimes." So I was contaminating their investigation by talking to them and then I just continued on.

Interviewer (51:31)
So you did it so it would reduce their likelihood of wanting to charge you?

Shane Cuthbert (51:39)
Yeah, yeah. And then from that point, I just. I'm just Shane cuthbert. I just want everybody to like me. I want to be in everyone's tribe. I want to be in the politicians tribe, I want to be in the gangsters tribe, I want to be in the police tribe. Just everyone's tribes. I'll be. Come together.