Our Stories: NAR Causing Christians to DE-CHURCH? An Interview With Nate Brooks - ep 179 Podcast

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John invites Nate Brooks to discuss personal experiences within charismatic and Pentecostal movements, focusing on the troubling aspects of these religious environments. Both John and Nate reflect on their upbringing in churches that, while providing positive community experiences, also propagated questionable theology and practices. They delve into the history of these movements, the blending of religion and politics, and the potential dangers of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and similar groups. The conversation also touches on the commercialization and politicization of Christianity, the misuse of scripture, and the rise of Christian nationalism.

As the discussion progresses, John and Nate express concerns about how these movements distort the message of Jesus and exploit religious beliefs for political agendas. They highlight the importance of returning to biblical teachings and avoiding the manipulation of scripture for personal or political gain. Both participants acknowledge the struggles of those who have left these movements, often feeling disillusioned or betrayed by their church experiences. The episode concludes with a call for a more authentic and scripturally grounded faith, free from the distortions and excesses that have come to characterize much of modern charismatic Christianity.

00:00 Introduction
02:28 Nate's Background and Early Church Experience
06:39 Reflections on Growing Up in a Charismatic Church
10:48 Struggles with Theological Differences and Disillusionment
15:12 Political and Religious Entanglements
20:29 The Rise of Charismania and Its Impact
24:01 Concerns About Weaponizing Religion in Politics
30:46 Historical Connections to Christian Identity and the NAR
36:35 The Concept of God's Kingdom and Misinterpretations
42:07 The Dangers of Misusing Scripture
48:22 The Problem of Commercialized Religion
54:32 The Dechurching Movement and a Call for Reform
56:51 Closing Remarks
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