FlyOver Conservatives-SESSION #7: The Difference between Prophetic and Revelation | Prophetic Prayer Training with Stacy Whited and Ginger Ziegler - captions

“When we start embracing God’s grace, God comes with His abundance of power and ability and He begins to change us. He begins to change our way of thinking in a permanent way. God uses His power, His loving-kindness, to take the truth and set us free.” - Ginger Ziegler

Ginger Ziegler is an accomplished author, teacher, mentor, grandmother, mother, and confidant. She is affectionately known as “Mom” to those who know her personally. In her 40+ years of ministry, she has established and pastored churches, Bible schools, ministry training schools, foreign missions, prison ministries and prayer groups all over the world. Additionally, she has preached in numerous churches in the U.S. and many foreign countries. She has also worked with many large ministries, establishing Biblically sound and healthy prayer groups, and leadership schools.

Ginger has a passion for empowering individuals to live out their God-given purpose and fulfill God’s original design for their lives, reigning victoriously as sons and daughters, equipped with the revelation of the POWER that is in the Name and Blood of Jesus.

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welcome. I am so excited to be with you today. If you're new to Flyover Conservatives, our slogan is wake up, speak up, and show up. We all want a President Trump to do 80 million things to save our country. And what we've learned of these last few years, what we really need is 80 million of us doing one thing Every single day to save our own country and something I have been learning from m y mentor, a lady. I absolutely love Ginger Ziggler. That is about the power of prayer. Prophetically praying and you know how much I love the prophetic. I've been putting together the prophetic report now for a few years and then Ginger came along and she's helped us to learn how do we prophetically pray into these prophetic words that the prophets have been giving over these last few years. This is session seven and at this point, the last one that we have planned. We'll see what God says so but at this point, it's the last one we have planned for session seven and I just want to do a shout out to the sponsor of our show. I'm so thankful for Mike Lindell with My Pillow. com. You know, Mike is bringing his time, his talent, his treasure, everything that he has to help to save this country and when you go to My Pillow. com and you use promo code flyover, you get up to 66% off on your purchases. So, amazing products, very high quality. Obviously, Avery shown in there on the screen. Some of our favorites obviously are the slippers. We have dog beds, the blankets, something I hear from a lot of you is the mattress topper. How much you all love that but I'm going to show you what it looks like when we get our boxes in from My Pillow. Check this out. Big day in the widest family because we got the new shipment in from My Pillow. com and Reagan the Doverman got some new stuff. Reagan. Wesley, we got some stuff. Come here. Come on. Check it out. Come on. 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She's part of Church International and she is an independent business owner that is a patriot. So, Fern Valley Soap. com. Use promo code flyover for 20% off. Alright, are you guys ready? I'm so excited about today's show. Again, this is the last one that we've planned with Ginger Ziggler. She is the author of His Blood Speaks Your Victory, The Devil's Defeat and today, we're also going to be talking about a new book that's coming out in September that I'm really excited about but today is session seven. Make sure you have pen, paper, and you're ready to go. Welcome to the show. Somebody has been in ministry for over 40 years. She has spent so much time in her prayer closet with the lord and she is teaching us exactly what to do with these prophetic words and how to pray prophetically during this time. Welcome to the show, Ginger Ziegler. Thank you. It's such an honor and I'm grateful that you had me on and I believe we've got between the two of us, we got something that's really going to help people want to pray and see the benefits of praying. It's amazing because it's the father-child relationship and out of that comes the rest of it. Comes the miracles and everything else. Anything else we need is going to come out of that father-child relationship. Oh. So, thank you for letting me do this. I'm so excited. We love it. I'm hearing so many great things from the Flyover family. How much they are learning and growing. Flyover family, again, this is session seven. If you've missed any of the past sessions, make sure you go to The Prophetic Report. com. When you go there, you're going to be able to see all of the ones that we've done so far. You can go back. You can listen to all of these sessions. Um they do, it is good if you can start with the first one because they do kind of build on each other but we are excited about what we're learning if you would like to the notes because we get notes every single time. So, here's my notes from today. Um to get the notes, you just text the phone number four zero five zero nine. Text the letters G Z as in Ginger Zigler to four zero five zero nine and you'll get each one of these sessions. So, now this is like we've said like the the last one we plan but we're both like, okay, God obedient to whatever he's calling us to do. So, if he says more, we're going to do more but at this point, this is the last one. So, you'll get all seven sessions when you text the phone number 40509 text the letters GZ. Well Ginger okay so something that we've discussed and I've been hearing from some people as well is I think after the assassination attempt of President Trump on I think it was July the thirteenth there's kind of been just a pressure that people are feeling. They're kind of a kind of a shaking that's really starting which prophetically we've been hearing all about it. Can you talk a little bit about that and maybe address that that maybe people are feeling right now and how we can overcome that? Well you know as I've shared before in 90-1 the Lord told me ahead of time he had given me the mandate to pray for our nation and he showed me then he said when you get to be an old woman this is what you're going to see happening. Then when you get to be a real old woman which we're trying to figure out what that means. And this is what you're going to see. So from ninety-one forward I've watched decade after decade president after president. Oh my. How things have changed. And so it's progressively gotten heavier. But the reason is and yes it's administration and yes it's the churches haven't done everything they needed to do. But Satan himself as the ancient of times he wants to control everything. So he has this he thinks he can like do whatever he wants to do. You know Daniel 725 and I've said this for I don't know how many years when I found this scripture years and years ago decade ago. Uh in the amplified it says he thinks duh duh duh duh. He thinks he can change the times and the laws. Well that means he's not for sure he can do it. And then in Corinthians it says that had he figured out that when he crucified Christ he was going to have all of us. Right. He wouldn't have done. So that means he's not like as smart as we think he is. But we sit back sometimes and we don't allow God to move through us and we get in these pressure I don't know you're probably that way. I'm that way. I mean we both have children and like if you don't I'm going to you know that and then finally like oh then they go okay okay yes ma'am yes ma'am you know and what's the same way instead she's you know like God is saying y'all pay attention. He talks and texting I can tell you. Anyways y'all pay attention but we haven't been paying attention. Private's been talking. So now we're in a boom. We're time where the ancient time he squashed it down to where he's almost he thinks he has it. He thinks he has us. He's got this thing up. If I can just one more twist. One more I just one more. I'm going to be able to like wipe the United States out and I'm going to wipe out the world as far as who has dominion. Mhm. You ever heard that word before? Yeah. Over everything. And so and so what we're doing is we're going well. Some of us woke up and we said mm no we're not going to do that. It's not time. Cuz the Lord me, he said, I want you to be like Joshua. Joshua ten. You talk to that sun, you talk to that moon, and you tell it stand still because it's not time and I didn't even know what he was talking about ninety1 but boy, I figured it out now. So, we have this pressure because Satan is trying his best to say, okay, you guys have run out of time. I'm going to start this seven year and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that and and you know, Ezekiel talks about his 5 wills. I'm going to exalt my my throne you know but God says No. I've got Daniel. I've got Jeremiah. I've got Nehemiah. I got all these people. Esthers, I got all these people and Imma raise up this group of people that says mm mm and so but we are in a pressure time because the clock is ticking and I started saying that ninety-one. Nobody wanted to listen. Life was listening. Ninety-one. It was real different. You know, I used to leave my keys in the car back in nineteen ninety-one. Oh my gosh. You know, life was totally different and so now we're all awake but that pressure comes and so we've got first of all, I just I would like to just blast this everywhere. Reality check. Reality check. Come on y'all. Wake up. Yeah. And so it takes such a long time for people to why is this pressure here? You have to see spiritually first. Where is it really coming from? Hm. Paul said look you think you're wrestling against some flesh and blood, some man, some woman, some whatever. Mm mm. You are in a wrestling match with what? Demonic levels. Different demonic levels. And it's hand to hand combat. And we don't think we think about war's been on the other side of the earth. You know and they're not going to touch us and not going to bother us. But when we do Ephesians six and we get in hand to hand wrestling match. Yep. Then we see where this pressure is actually coming from because you're going to see them up close. Man. And you better know who you are and how to deal with them. And that's where the pressure's coming from. But then how are you going to deal with it? Oh that is so And and that's why I think this book is so important for this time because you address everything like that in this book. In fact, on the twenty-third, I I mean I I love this book. You know how much I love this book but you'd even talk about the title is you are protected and you go through that we are protected by the blood of Jesus and you talk about an encounter with a demon and by you declaring the blood of Jesus and then you said his blood His blood, his blood, that demon had to leave. It had no authority. It had to leave when you did that. I wanted to read for you because I know that Chuck Pierce is someone that you've sent to me quite a few times and your Krista which I absolutely love. She sent me this Chuck Pierce post that he did a few days ago and I wanted to make sure that the Flyover family heard it because I think it goes right along with what you were just saying and it's called a call to watch, a call to soar, a to walk upon the waves. As things intensify in the world, we must continue to watch how the Lord is positioning us for breakthrough. Here is a portion of the Prophetic Revelation that the Spirit of God released through this portal yesterday even if things feel unsteady around you. Continue to declare that the Lord is securing the path to your next destination. Watch carefully for I am releasing a new anointing for you to see from July the 18th through October the second. There will be an ascending dimension of demonic activity. I will cause my spirit to rise up in you and you will begin to soar above the demonic activity that is being sent toward you. Watch carefully for you will see the plan that I have. There will be a climax coming in this nation between evil and between that what is longing to move into place. I will win this war for I am raising a people that are above the people of this earth. I have a soaring people who will walk on water above the heads of those who are attempting to destroy my plan in the earth. Get ready for what for you will rise up above the waves and walk with great authority. Let not your heart be troubled in this time even as you see evil rise. This is the Ecclesia's finest time in this nation. Let not your mind be confused. You are creating the rumbling that is happening in this nation. Fear not the future. Fear not the For we must go through this time of hell so we can have a future for the next three generations. Let not your heart grow weary for the battle is intensifying but you have already overcome. You have already overcome. Let not your heart be troubled. I have already prepared your place to keep your eye above the storm and above the waves. Walk with confidence even though things feel unsteady around you. I have prepared your destination and I I will see to it that you get there. Amen. Boy, I'm telling you what, that's a mouthful but that's exactly what we are and people don't realize how it's going to be intense more than it is now and I know that I've been warning. Warning, warning, warning. People think that I tell them the same thing over and over. You know, they go like, well, you said prepare. What do you mean prepare and I got like first off, you get your prepared because that's where you're going to win it or lose it many times. And people just we can't do that. It's not time. Now if God said it's in time and this is it and we're out of here like okay then let it happen. But he hasn't said that. He told me in ninety-one he said it is not time. And he said you say that until I tell you differently. So like I've shared before every time we get a different president we go through something else crazy. Yeah. I go well is it still timeline like help. He said I told you I'd tell you when it's not time. You just keep doing what you're doing. And so we gotta get to the place to and including me. I mean all of us. Um we just like cool your wills man. Like get in this thing. So whatever he has out there. It's a wrestling match. It looks like we're going to lose. It looks like but we gotta get this on the inside. You gotta come up and I know people said all different things about Trump and how he came up when he when they tried to him out and all that stuff but actually that'd be a good way to come up from to me like okay you mighta had me down for a minute but I'm on my way up I'm going to come up because senior and I've shared this with y'all those of you that want to learn how to pray he wrote a book I don't know the 70s or 80s it's called The Triumphant Church and he said you pray from and you battle from the Stamp Point of victory having already won. Whoo. You don't pray for from I'm wishing. I've I've taught that book so many times in schools and stuff that I've had. Man, I'm telling you what that book is amazing because he teaches you. He said, you have to fight from a place of victory. If you fight from a place of defeat, you you never you're not going to win and you will be amazed. I don't even know how to explain it like that first time when I did the demon and the blood. Yep. I didn't know nothing compared to what I know now. I knew the power, power, power, and the blood. That's what I knew back then. But that's all you needed. Cuz it left. But that was all I needed but this this peace something inside me. My mind was just as normal. I mean I can think thank God my mind is sharp. But I was like it started popping off all these scriptures. And they didn't work. And I said Hey Lord like what am I doing wrong? Where am I missing this? I mean I'm like face to face with this team and I could describe them in detail. My brain was working. I said I missed it somewhere. What am I help me? But I was just as calm and like okay I know there's an answer to this. I didn't even realize that grace that God gives us was so on the inside of me. I was just like okay dude I'm going to figure this one out. When I do I'm going to come after you and I and it was be on me I guess is what you can say because it started power started in my feet came up I don't even know how to describe it and out of my mouth all I said was the bud wow it's perfectly calm and I Satan showed up in September of 1993 in my bedroom in the middle of the night at three o'clock in the morning and I knew it was there and at first I was like oh my God one Monday this is Satan himself and so that was the first time I actually had to face Satan himself but in inside me I was like I said let me tell you when I get up from here I'm going to tell you what time of day it is. That's not me. That is God. That's not me doing that. My mind was as sharp and I came up over there to that bed and I'm telling you my feet hit the floor. I didn't even get my mouth open and Satan turned. And he was hooking them. Wow. I didn't even say no choice. I was I was good to say something. I was trying to figure out what to say. But I'm just telling you God will come and he will put this grace on the inside of you to where and then later you go whoa why don't you stop? What happened? You know oh boy you know later and then somebody said well how'd you do that? God I don't know. I just know that God if we will depend on him. He can get us to a place to where maybe our our body might be shaken. I don't know if it is or not. But I can tell you what your mind can like this is not how it's going to be. And that's what Kenneth Hagan Senior talks about. He said you have to learn to fight From a place of victory. So. A place of victory. Not a place of defeat. That triumphant church that's a best book. Everyone of you ought to get that book. I don't have it. I'm excited to read it. I'm talking about study it. Maybe some I think I did. Jeremy I think I did a a series on that one time. We'll have to look and see if we can find it. If you can find it can you send it to me? I'll put it in the notes. If you guys find it I'll put it in the notes below so y'all if you're wherever you're watching check the notes below because If Ginger has that, I'll put that link below and you can watch that training on that. Yes. So, Ginger, does that start from your secret place, that authority, from you spending time in your secret place and knowing who you are in God? I didn't even know what I was doing Stacey in those days. I can remember my first prayer. I was about three years old or something. It was in the middle of a really bad family situation. I just remember knowing on the inside of me. God was the answer. That was all I knew. I remember falling down on my knees at that little piano stool and I was just all I could say was God help my daddy. God help my daddy. I could barely talk. Wow. But I remember it like it happened 5 seconds ago. And somehow inside me I knew God was the answer. Someway I knew that. And so through those years those was pretty hard years and through those years that stayed on the inside of me. If I can just pray I didn't even know. I and I would I don't want to tell a whole story but I used to sneak away and we had the yucky house and I would go up in the attic and I would hide up in the attic because I hid a lot of times because stuff that was going on but I would take my grandmother's old Bible. I still have it. In fact, it's right here. My her old Bible. I would take her Bible and I would go up and I would just read that Bible. I knew my answer was here somehow and I I was praying in the secret place. I didn't even know I was doing that as a child. I sometimes I'd be hiding under a bed but I grabbed that Bible and Bible was on that bed with me because I knew then find me when in 1969 1 day I actually read it I was doing I love them I was in the Baptist Church and I loved all their daily devotionals and I was doing that I was so faithful I did everything exactly like they said it and then I read in Matthew six six it says enter into your private prayer closet and close the door shut the door and your who sees in secret will reward you openly and I thought that's it man that's why I messed up I've been praying out here in the living room I should get in the closet and so I started praying actually in the closet and I'm not very big and it was good because his closet was little bitty. You had to take the stuff out too. I actually started getting in the closet and praying in the closet. So two years later I went to pray in the closet because I read that in the Bible. Yep. And I wasn't childish. I was childlike. Yes. And so two years later I went after service. Church service. We went to church that morning. I went home and I got in the closet. Well I ended up in heaven. It was amazing. He rewarded me openly. Then he stood at the foot of the bed that night. So yeah it works. I got the craziest test. I got everybody said why don't you you know before you check out or anything. Would you like put all these stories in the book. Somebody said well I don't know if everybody believed but they're crazy but they actually happened and here I am but but what I the point I want to make is I finally understood the principle. This is the year of the open door. We understand that. Yeah. That's the Hebrew. Thank God. Barbara's here. She's helping me stay on this Hebrew thing so we can understand timing. Yep. I want to understand God's timing not Satan's timing. You got it. Exactly. So so this is the year of the open door. So everybody's talking about the open door, the open door. And then all these great wonderful things. You know January 1 everybody was jumping up and down. This is we're exciting. All these wonderful and I thought whoa boy I'm telling you with the open door. I know the rest of it. Verse Corinthians sixteen chapter sixteen verse nine amplified. Paul said isn't this exciting? This great brand new door. This wide open door has been opened with many adversaries. And people forgot to read the whole verse. So okay so I was like oh my God. Many adversaries. What's going to happen this year is what I want to know. Lord I because I want a reality check. I don't want to live in Lola Land. Right. So anyway I I put the two of them together. I said, oh, that's right. If I do Matthew six six and I go and I close, now follow me. You learn to pray like this. You close the door to life. Your family, finances, what I'm going to do, sickness, how am I make my build, how this is ever going to work. I mean, we're in the ministry. God, where's the next open door? Lord Jesus, how am I going to do this? I don't know booming thing about this or that. You shut that Out. You close that door and your father, this child father relationship begins to develop and your father who sees your heart, your heart You're in there to gain a relationship. And as you're in there gaining this relationship, I can't see right. I'm not seeing this. I I'm upside down. I'm inside out. Nothing in life is working but I'm going to shut the door. I'm going to hear what you've got to say to this child. That's what I'm going to do and then you come out of that closed door place with God and then he starts, what does he say? He said, in Revelation three, he said, I open doors that no man can open. Ooh. I door at noon and when he opens the door, I'm telling you, the devil himself, isn't this exciting? He can't do a thing about it. Yup. Then you, he starts opening doors and I think we miss it sometimes. We're looking for the open door but we forgot to close the door. Oh. Oh boy, this is good teaching and preaching. This is so. Anyway. Good. That's the opening closed door. So we want to close the door so we can hear and then wait and he'll open the door. He's opened some miraculous doors for me I can tell you. I've gotten to do some crazy things in ministry. And I look back and I think dude what Irene? How that ever happened? I don't have anything altogether to be able to do what I did. God pulled it off because he was the one that opened the door so he made sure that I was prepared to be able to pull it off and do it. But how I did it? I worked for Ken the Copa Ministries for years. We helped start the church out there. In the beginning days. And it's a true story. I don't think I've ever told this publicly. In fact I know I haven't. But how I made it? I got up every morning at four thirty. And I prayed in tongues from 430 to 630. Seven days a week. No matter what time I went to bed. A lot of times it was one or two o'clock in the morning. Wow. That means I got these little bits of sleep. But I could not make it without being in the Closed door. That's how I made it. That was that was how I knew what to do the next day. That's how I knew how to get through. That's how I knew how to make my plans as and people got they I've been put down. I've had everything set about me. Nice things too some. But anyway that's how he that's how he kept my head on straight. But this is funny. We used to go skiing all the time. Snow skiing. And no joke man. 4: 30 in the morning. Colorado. Boom. This woman was I was going skiing all day. But I'm up I'm in the closet. And the kids when they would get up they go mom do you have to pray that loud, we're still trying to sleep. Cuz I'm praying. You know, in the closet. You know, the little bitty cabin but even on vacation, didn't matter where I was. That was how I don't even understand how God made me understand that as a child but you close that door and you'll hear, you'll see, you'll know and even if you come out and you don't know a blooming thing he knows it all and then he'll say, just wait just a little while. I got I'm I'm going to be opening this door and you're preparing Yourself. You're preparing yourself for that next open door. And these doors that he's opening this year, everybody better remember this part. We're got many adversaries. So between now and the election and the next January and the next 2-five and 26 you know Chris Reed and all those guys are talking about it. Don't be bumpy. So we need to get in there and close the door so that he can open the doors. Ah that is huge. Just so you guys know this is on the notes. So if you want these notes if you're like oh my gosh I didn't get all that. I get the I didn't get all that. Just text the phone number four zero 5 zero nine. Text the letters GZ Ginger Ziggler 40509 GZ for these notes. Everything I mean as far as the scripture and the closed door, open door that's on here so you'll have that. Ginger, I want to talk about because you and I have had conversations about it. I think it's significant taking a Sabbath or a Shabbat because you know, that was something David and I especially after the attempt of nation that week our whole team Avery had mentioned it David mentioned it I mentioned it just exhaustion we've just felt like even when we were sleeping we were fighting yeah you know there was just this not fighting each other fighting the spirit you know I mean truly like just there was just this war going on in the spiritual realm and and I just I kept thinking I need a Sabbath I need time that I'm I don't have my phone I don't have the television on I'm just just being just spending time with the Lord just truly resting. And David came to me saying the same thing I think we need to do something because I'm feeling this. He'd been feeling it for a few months where he was like we I really need a Sabbath. And then I was talking to you over the weekend. And God woke you up with saying the same word three times. But it was a voice. You could hear it. And if there was somebody else in the room they probably could've heard it as well. Can you talk about that? Well, he's only spoken out loud to me three times in my whole life that I know of but it was loud. Everybody could hear it and I was sound asleep. Now, think about this. I'm finally sound asleep, okay? Yep. And he wakes me up. Shabbat, Shabbat, Shabbat. I said I'm **** and I said, boy, I'm so sleepy. I I think that I think I know what that means. I was just like out of it and I said, you woke me up. I Have a sound sleep. I don't sleep that often, that sound sleep and you're trying to tell me to sleep. Hello. And I said, tell me how to spell it and I'll look it up in the morning when I get up. God has a sense of humor with me I can tell you. But anyway so I got up and I started this thing and I said alright so what are we talking about exactly? And so I've I've listened to a lot of people that talk about the Hebrew Shabbat how you rest but one of the things I begin to understand from Chuck Pierce and some of the other people is we get busy doing ministry and we get busy doing life. And I'm a busy person. I gotta see something done before I get in bed at night. I want to see a manifestation of some you know. And so you just get busy and you don't sleep. You don't eat. Just like going and you get that's when the enemy can come against us because we're not on working on all eight cylinders and so what I begin to understand was Chuck Pierce explained this he said if you just slow down and I get in the closet close the door and just be in there and reflect over the last few days further like where did I miss it where did I do it right how could I've done it differently did you speak to me and I didn't really know it and then what do I need to do in these next coming days help me like so that I'm in right place at the right time. Just like getting it all calmed down so that God can help you look back over and see how we can adjust so that we do it better. Come and because he wants us always to succeed. Yes. So he's going to tell us some way that we can succeed. And then so we can see what's coming up. That's what the prophets help us do. To look and see. And I'm so prophetic man. I can see. Boy if I I was telling them this morning before we started this. I was Like about the Trump thing. I said I saw bow ding ding ding and everybody was like you missed it and I snotted. I said you wait it'll come out. I saw and so you you but this is where you get in that place to where you can like okay you know because I I tend now I take my time in prayer. I do that. But the Shabbat is like let me just shut up. Slow down and be quiet. Mhm. And don't ask God for nothing. Just sit there. And different people can do it different ways. I don't need music although I'm a musician man. I've played for years. But I don't need music. I need it quiet. I gotta get it still. I want everything and everybody to go away. And I just gotta get still so my mind can just like because I process. My mind processes all the time. I just need it to be quiet. And so sometimes I just quietly just above a whisper. Pray in tongues. Or sometimes I just I don't know. I just lay down in the closet and I just lay there and I fall asleep and what I got these old amplified Bibles that I love. That my daughter the other day she said mom now I don't know how long you going to be around whatever how long you make sure that you've got all of those. I get all those amplified Bibles and I said we going to have to fight everybody off for them. But sometimes and everybody has to do what works for them. Sure. And I just take it and so I just I gotta get this Bible in my heart. Mhm. I gotta get it inside me. And I just just get quiet and I just hold it and just go God I want to eat your word that's I don't know what to do. And I just get still. I don't pray 5000 miles an hour. You know and I'm going to take Satan down at any given moment. When a Shabbat I get still. Mhm. And so everybody has to figure out what works best for them so they can get in that stillness. They can hear his voice. And what is he saying to us? And anything he's going to say to us is going to be a blessing. It's going to be a help. But that's why how I've learned to Shabbat. And could be any day of the week. It'd be in the middle of the night. If you wake up in the middle of the night, there's been plenty of times I slept a couple hours, woke up, got up and said, okay, come on. I call him Boaz. You know, since oh yeah. My husband so anyway. Exactly. Call him Boaz. Let's go get in the closet. You know and it's quiet and still. It just I just need to I just need you to kiss my cheeks. I just need you to hold me. I just need you to be close to me. I'm not asking you for nothing. I don't need nothing. I don't want anything. I just want you. That's all I want is just breathe on me and I'll be okay. Mhm. And so everybody has to do what what works for them. So that's what Shabbat Shabbat Shabbat is. What works for them. Just slow everything down. I love that. It's so important. I guess there's a there's a fight that we're in and so we need to be filled up so that we have something to give out you know when we leave that closet. So can you talk about you know we're in a time now of the next few months, years that, you know, intensity's going to be high. So how do how do we pray? You know like what what does that look like? You're talking about praying different prayers, a strategic time, certain ones, be flexible. Can you talk about that? You know we've got the Ephesians six which we've already talked about. They're all different kinds of prayers. And I've mentioned before Kenneth Hagen Senior said if you can play basketball then play by basketball rules. If you can play football play by football rules. And so but we tend to like well I know how to do it here. Let me have you here. Agree me in prayer. And we're out of here. That might not be the prayer to pray at that time. We need to slow down Shabbat again. We need to slow down and say Father okay we've got this situation with President Trump. We got this situation in the administration right now. We've got this thing coming up. Tell me how because Jesus ever lives to make intercession. We're praying with him. Yeah. He's praying with us. He's praying through us. So what type of prayer do I need to pray? Like I've learned through the years. I need corporate prayer. I need prayers that I've trained that are around me. And they know how I think it's okay I think like I do. They don't like they're not against me. They're for me. Mhm. And so they're around me. They know how I'm thinking the whole time. They know when I say something. And I need corporate prayer when it has to do with our nation. Or when it has to do with the world. You need more than we need we need the unity of all of us together and then sometimes if it's personal I might need maybe my closest friend I got this situation I can't tell anybody about it but will you pray with me over will you pray the prayer of agreement or I might need a petition prayer I've got several petition prayers now with different people that I know some of the petition prayers is to help them that means you're praying you've got it written down your going over it again. You Father, I know I'm standing on your word. I know you're going to answer this because petition prayer sometimes has to do with other people's wills and we're just praying that God can help them get in the right place or get a labor to come across their path or help us to say the right thing or help us keep our mouth shut and don't say anything just like and so we we just need to slow down and not be so fast like you know, here we go and so the only thing I we're going to be fast on praying in tongues. You're not you're going to do it right if you're praying in tongues. Yeah. You're not going to mess up. That's true. So that that petition prayer what what is that look like? Can you describe more of a petition prayer? Is this something that's written out that you are reading? Yes it is. And then is it something that you wrote out or it's something that you are praying from the Bible? Is it something that you get from a book? Both yeah. Okay. You're right. I tell you who has the best teaching on that is Jared Seville. Okay. He taught on years ago you have to look it up and find where he taught them. He taught them petition prayers or maybe I don't know maybe the 80s or the early nineties. It was a long time ago. But what you do is you go Lord I've got this petition if it's safe for somebody that you know or you love or whatever. And then help me to find the right scriptures. To be able to write this out and you write it out. It's something you're actually looking at. Okay. It's a legal document between you and your father. And you're praying over this. And so you're watching. You might add to it. You might take parts of it. And there are things that you can do. Petition prayers are definitely they're written out. They're they're it's legal between you the Father and y'all and it may take like Jeremy talked about one petition petition prayer he had was for one of his daughters. I forgotten how many 20 plus years or something for whatever God answered. But he stayed with it. And petition prayers sometimes I'll help you stay with it. It's not something you would pray every single day. But then we prayers of decrees that we're taking the prophet's words. This is so important. This is man. I mean like I could preach on this forever. You're we're taking their words that they've gotten from God. And we it's illegal. We've turned it into a law. So they get God's Holy Spirit words of truth. They're helping us. And I'm not saying we can't get God's words. We can't. I'm just saying the office of the prophet. Mhm. Not not prophetic people but the office of a prophet. And we get their words and We start, we have the prince of the power of the air up there and all he is is a liar and the father of lies and so we're shooting targets. We have a law and we're saying in Daniel, study Daniel, you can figure out how to do it. It's really easy. We're just shooting these words of these prayers and they're dissipating and they're raising lies that Satan is saying. That's what we're doing right now in our government. That's what we're doing right now. That's what we are. If we had enough people doing that and stop disfusing carrying on and oh my God what am I going to do? I don't have a bag of beans. Come on you're going to be alright. God's going to take care of you. Whatever. That's so good. So Colton put up on the tab. Colton put up on the screen those petitions from Jerry. Uh Colton put them up there. So what I'll do is I'll put that in the text as well. So when you text the phone number four zero five zero nine. These petitions that Colton has up on the screen right now. Um we'll that was from Jerry. Um so we'll put that in the the tab As well so you'll have those petitions. Thank you Colton for finding that. That's huge. Okay so thank you for describing that. I have never I hadn't learned much about the petition prayer so that's very helpful Ginger. Um yeah. You have you have all also on here like keep emotions calm and peaceful so you can hear clearly. Can you go in depth on that? Matt I'm telling you if you will I I went through and I've shared this a few times. I went through the hardest trial I've ever been through and every time I I all I did was cry. My brain was as sharp as it ever is. My spirit man was as tough but for those emotions, God I couldn't do a blooming thing with him and I would be in really important meetings, very important meetings and I'd be sitting there and the tears are pouring. I can't even get a word out because I'm whining like a baby and I said, God, jeez, you gotta help me. What in the world, you know, and even if I the scripture you know like hello. Gotta get control. I said show me how to do it. And he taught me this. I had told people this. This works. What I did was and even if I was around people. I mean I sounded like I was losing my mind at times but I wasn't. I would I knew exactly what I was doing. And I knew how it was going to work. Uh those tears just start flowing and I'd be around people and would be in this meeting or whatever and I'd say excuse me I'll be right back. I'd bow my head and I would say Father in the name of Jesus by an act of my will. I will to will the will of God in my life. By an act of my will. I'm these emotions under the part of the blood. And I would do that until I get just as calm and peaceful. And I'd look back up and I'd say okay now this is where we were and this is what we're doing. It wouldn't be three seconds it seems like you know. And so that When I first started doing it it seemed like I did it 100 times a day I couldn't get through a conversation. But I knew it was going to work. And everybody looking at me that blows her heart. She's losing her beanie. You know I was like when I come out of this I'm going to be made out of steel. Let me tell ya. Yep. And so it came and then pretty soon it was a week and there was two weeks and it happened less and less and then I don't know. You know Mark Ford the farmer plants a seed and plants a seed and he goes to sleep and he goes to sleep and 120 days later wow can you imagine that I planted corn I actually got corn and that's what happened all of a sudden I didn't have to say it anymore it just those emotions just like he healed them with the blood and all I said was I used my will just like Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane and people do not realize listen I went to heaven and I understand I learned in heaven the power of my will I learned it hard way but I learned it. And so our will. Jesus himself had to get in that garden. And he said I will bring my will. And what I just said I will to will the will of God in my life. Yeah. I learned that in 1969 from reading a book. I don't know who wrote it. It's called The Choice or the Power of Choice or something. A little bitty book about this big and I remember it to this day. I taught it in all my schools. I will to will. The will Of God in my life. I will. I'm taking my will. God will not do anything about your will. He'll help you. But he will not. He made us free. It's our choice. And I thought I can't I'm using my will to stop crying but it's not working. So I said hm get this under the blood, under the blood, under the blood and over time, I don't even know how long it wasn't very much like couple months or something. I didn't even realize I wasn't crying anymore and I've never cried about that situation since then. Wow. And when I get so that these emotions just feel like crazy nutshole, I go like come here dude. I'm going to will to will the will of God in my life and I I how to get my emotions and I'm I'm telling you y'all oughta really get this you guys. This is huge. You don't remember the name of that book Ginger? Do you remember the name of that book? Do you remember the name of that book? That you were just talking about though I Will to Will. Do you remember the name of that? I think it was like God's greatest power that it has I all I can remember it was sixty-nine. All I can remember I saw the word choice. I think God's great or man's greatest choice. Great. I don't even know. It's a little book. It's about this big. I don't even know who. Alright. I'll do some research. If I can find it y'all put it in the notes too. So, we can have that. I want to read this book. It was all through the book. If you see it all through the, somebody loaned it to us so we gave it back but you know, it's where you fill out a check. You know, I'm I'm asking God this and this. It was like like a petition prayer. Okay. It was like. Okay. But the only thing I can remember is I will to will the will of God in my life and it's worked since the day that I read that. I love that and so if I can't find it, y'all just remember, I will to will the will of God in my life. So and you are you are making the garden of Gethsemane. Yep. That's the garden. That's what Jesus did for and Stacy when he had the sweat that like great drops of blood. That's what he was doing and he poured that blood out in the Garden of Gethsemane so that we had the power or the ability to bring our will under the power of God Almighty. I was praying for several people. There's one person in particular. I mean God I prayed all night long. Man I had wrestled. I had cried. I beat the fire of the devil. I did every scripture I knew from Genesis to Revelation. So I got real still and real quiet the next morning. The Lord this was many years ago. And the Lord said you can't change this and I can't change this and I said, well then, why am I praying? What am I doing here? And he said, I can only help people with their will. They themselves have to bring their will. And that's when I learned what I'm telling you. They have to bring their will under subjection to my will just like my son Jesus did in the Garden of Gethsemane. He would have never gone to the cross if he hadn't done that. Wow. But because he did that. And he poured his blood out. We getting that Gethsemane and we'll go like I'm not going to make it through this. How am I ever going to do this? Oh my God. You know this this and this and this is going to happen. But then we say, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait. Father, I apply those drops of blood on my process, my thinking, my mind, and he took the the crown of thorns again on this mind so this mind you could bring it, bring this will under the will of God almighty. It's amazing how it works. And only we can do it. Yeah, I can't do it for you. You can't do it for me. Which makes so so much sense. I can pray you'll get in the position to want to do it but I I can't do it for you even God that do you realize Stacy There would be nobody in hell if God took authority over people's will, he'd make everybody go to heaven. You're right. It's it's huge that you're saying this because Robin Bullock brought back up couple of weeks ago about President Trump that it had to be President Trump's decision to run again. So that was something that it God would never make him run. So prophetically he couldn't say President Trump's going to be there because he's like it he we need to be praying that he makes a decision to run again once he makes a decision to run again then we know what the outcome but he God's never going to make him do it and I thought oh this is huge because that goes right along with what he was saying and what prophet Robin was saying about President Trump needing to make that decision himself. And that's exactly what President Trump said. He said I wasn't going to do this again. Yeah. He he verified it. Yep. And right here in this barn right here where we're having this taping. Yep. My prayer group and me one night. I do I do acts sometimes. I won't tell you all about it. Maybe I'll tell you about this one. And we were praying for him. This whoa Barbara was this two years ago or three years ago? It's a long time ago. Anyway we were praying for a president in Trump. And so I said well I know this thing about the will so we gotta do this. And so we started praying for his will that night. And so we prayed every prayer we could think of. So I just said well I know what I'm going to do. I'm from Texas. We got cows. We got cowboys. Yep. And we got lassos. Yep. And I know how to get that cow in the chute to get him in the truck to get him where he's supposed to go right? Yep. So I said Lord I don't even know how to do this but we're going to lasso him with love. Wow. And we're going to lasso him. We're going to pull him and we're going to pray that this love for this nation and for Israel rise so strong in his heart he's going to be able to do it. And I lassoed him that night. And that's exactly what happened. Yeah. He did it because he see and watch our country go down. That's why he's he did it. Wow. I love that. And I did. I just I won't tell you what I did for prophetic prophetic act not prophetic but it was. Prophetic. But anyway that's that's how we need to because I understood what I just told you. That God even God couldn't change his will. But we could pray something in him would rise up to where he could set his will. And we waited a long time to hear him say. Well I wasn't going to do it but I am now. He did. He said that. Wow. I love that. I love that. Okay, so as we're looking to the upcoming events, the challenges that are coming, we have to know, really know what the prophets are saying and understand it and that's why I think you talk so much about the prophetic report because it kind of is pulling together all of these prophetic words. You're hearing it directly from the mouth of those people or written word from those people and then we can then pray into it so we need to really know those words, steward those words, and then pray those words. Is that what you're saying? That's what I'm saying and the thing is we've got we got all this teaching. What they what we do. The word interprets itself. But a lot of times we interpret the word instead of letting the word interpret itself. And this stuff started back in 2020 when all the election stuff started. Well if it doesn't come to pass the guy's not really or the woman's not really a prophet and all that. Well I've told you this over and over. Isaiah okay there's going to be this virgin. She's going to have this baby in like hundreds of years. But Before it ever happened. So that shoots that one. No. A false prophet is going to talk you into serving some other God. Mhm. Like they did the Gods where they would cast their babies and their children under the fire of God. A false prophet is not going to get you to go and get in a prayer closet and pray to your heavenly father. Right. And so we gotta like sometimes what we have to do with these prophetic words that are coming. We're like well that didn't Make sense. Well just hold on. Mhm. It may take time. Because it takes 120 days from the day you plant the corn till you get the corn. Okay? So it takes time. Sometimes it happens overnight. But instead of us saying well I don't know. Let's let the word interpret the word for itself. And and Corinthians two talks about that. It interprets itself. And so then when we get that settle and some prophets you know I mean like if you have two or three I don't know master degrees you might be able to understand this prophet easier like somebody over here that maybe doesn't have a theology degree or something they could understand just like let God guide you to the prophetic voice that works for you and that you understand but also I was talking to somebody yesterday that works for Pastor Kunman and I said when we start understanding these things make sure that we're telling the people to understand According to where you are in your life. If you're a mother with three children and you're working two or three jobs just to put food on the table, you're going to see that prophetic word from that viewpoint. Right. If you're somebody that's very sick with some terminal disease the doctor says and you're in the hospital then the way you see that's going to be different from that mother. Mm hmm. And so what we want to do is be mature enough to say okay father this is what I believe help me to know how to apply it to my life personally and then give me words to be able to pray that out because just like me who knows how many people are my age doing what I'm doing you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And look at you with your kids and what y'all are doing. How many people so the way you interpret you're going to help a bunch of people and then I'm going to help a bunch of people. And then here we got Jeremy sitting here. He's got who are the greatest kids you've ever seen. Especially his daughter. Man she's something else. And so all the he's done in ministry and stuff like when he interprets it. See he would see it different because his kids are not grown. They're just barely teenagers getting there. Right. And so what we have to do then father how do I pray it? Because see he would have like Jeremy when he sees a prophetic word. God would give him compassion in his heart because of his children. Mhm. To pray it out. That would be beneficial for them. Yes. You see that? Yes. And then somebody like me I would Think, oh man, I'd be thinking about these people that are there by themselves. Yup. You understand? Yup. Totally. People that owned four or five businesses, you know. Right? And so, we just, I mean, isn't it time to grow up? It is. The maturity is so important that the maturity is critical. You have here too. Stay with a good prophetic group. Be willing to be taught and discipled. So, this humility and being willing to grow is that humility thing seems to be really important. God must think that's important. It is so important. You you know I've done I think it's 4three years now or 44 years I've been in full-time ministry. I mean I've been knocked I've had the Dickens knocked out of me. But when I've matured enough to go back and goes that thank you Jesus. I'm glad somebody said something to me. It maybe they said it wrong and they said it was wrong attitude but I could pull something out of what's going to help me. Mhm. And then I've had people in because I've had I've had prayer groups since nineteen seventy-one. And so you start to help somebody, you start getting offended, man, you don't want to do that. You don't want to end up getting out there. The Long Ranger is not going to work. We gotta be with our church. We gotta be with our groups. We gotta be watching over. Sunday night, we sat there before we started praying for the nation. We sat there, I guess, what, 30 minutes, 45 minutes and we talked about our group and we've known each others. I've known some of these people since 1986. Wow. And we've known some of the people just in the last year or two. Just gotten to know em and we were about how we watch over each other. We just know we start we're and that's so important because we're watching over in fact this I woke up in the night yesterday. In fact I had to go and feed the cows. On the way I was I got three feeding the cows. I was walking back in the house and all of a sudden one of my prayer group man I just started praying ninety nothing. I said Lord what am I praying about? What's going on? And I knew they were in another state and I knew it was about them getting on the right airplane to get back here to their home. Wow. I was just praying like crazy. I was just praying. And so then I woke up in the night last night I said I'm praying about it again. So sure enough this morning about six o'clock being my phone. I looked down and it was her and she said Ginger you praying for me so I can get on the right plane at the right time and you know they're saying like then next thing you know we saw the news and I think they said hundreds of Delta flights had been cancelled or something I yes oh my God that was the Lord. But see our group we're watching. Yes. We're watching over each other. Now what to speak in cows? In the rain. Drizzling rain. Thank God it's raining. Have to do with but I knew. See one in our group needed help and they have their church but they needed they need I knew and sure enough she called us. She said Ginger if you pray help me pray. Isn't that amazing? You're like I've already been praying. I started praying yesterday and I was already praying. I said oh well let me tell you what I prayed yesterday. I tell you what I prayed in the middle of the night. Wow. That's being sensitive. We're watching over each other. And you know these I'm not against big churches. That's wonderful. Come on God make it happen. Yep. But we still gotta have all groups because we gotta help each other individually. That's how people get in sin. There's they're not spending their money right. I had not last not last Sunday night but Sunday before they said help me to know what to do about my finances. That has to do with you know what's coming up. And so I just sat there and took a few minutes and just taught on like if you're in this financial situation or this this is I would suggest this is this. Cuz we're watching over. And sometimes if you go a church that's got three, four, five, or 10, 000 people in it. You might not be able to get that one on one. Yes. And so these whoops are very very important. I love that. And the only and excuse me for interrupting. No that's good. Also are we seeing right? Because when I start seeing stuff I say y'all this what I think. Y'all judge it. Mhm. You're up close. You know what I'm doing. You know where I live. You know what I do all day long. You know you help me. Am I seeing? And then the next thing you know Krista my Krista Yep. I call her my ping pong ball. All of a sudden she'll like I saw this article and then it confirms either I'm right on or am I out to lunch you know. And so we're we're watching each other so that we're not getting off goofy. Uh excuse me for interruption. No I love that's important. See how important it is. Yes that is important. And then you also talking here like understanding like do you see things visually? Are you more of an auditory learner? Like understanding where you fit in and then using those gifts in that in that way. Yeah. Well, it we have to understand each other. Mm hmm. And you know, you always hear me say I talk Texan. So, two plus two is four. Yup. So, one of the people in my group teaches calculus and I asked him the other day. I said, what exactly is it and what do you use it in life for? I mean, like, hello. Help me figure out what this is. I mean, what, I can't even spell the word. So, I so when I'm working with her, I know she's going to see picture Yeah. But I know I'm going to do two plus two is four. Mm hmm. So I have to like accept her like she is and be able would help me understand what you're showing her and how her piece of the puzzle fits in over here with my two plus two or four and then I can look over here and I'd see this person they understand we have one of the people that are insecurity. So if they're going to talk or add something that it's going to