FlyOver Conservatives-SESSION #4: Urgent Call: We Need to be Praying NOW! | Prophetic Prayer Training with Stacy Whited and Ginger Ziegler - captions

“When we start embracing God’s grace, God comes with His abundance of power and ability and He begins to change us. He begins to change our way of thinking in a permanent way. God uses His power, His loving-kindness, to take the truth and set us free.” - Ginger Ziegler

Ginger Ziegler is an accomplished author, teacher, mentor, grandmother, mother, and confidant. She is affectionately known as “Mom” to those who know her personally. In her 40+ years of ministry, she has established and pastored churches, Bible schools, ministry training schools, foreign missions, prison ministries and prayer groups all over the world. Additionally, she has preached in numerous churches in the U.S. and many foreign countries. She has also worked with many large ministries, establishing Biblically sound and healthy prayer groups, and leadership schools.

Ginger has a passion for empowering individuals to live out their God-given purpose and fulfill God’s original design for their lives, reigning victoriously as sons and daughters, equipped with the revelation of the POWER that is in the Name and Blood of Jesus.

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I am so excited to be with you today. This is going to be such an incredible session today with Ginger Ziggler. You know, we've been learning so much from her and this stem from conversations that I was having with Ginger just one on one learning so much from her and I thought we have got to share this with the Flyover family. We're at such a critical, crucial ti me right now in history and what do we do during this time we're hearing all of these prophetic words and God is speaking starting in January of 20twenty-four my prophetic report that used to be 30 to 45 minutes maybe an hour at the longest has now gone to 22 1/ 2 hours and the reason for that is because there's so much going on in the Prophetic as things have gotten darker and more chaotic God's voice has gotten louder and more unity to the body of Christ and so when this opportunity came around that Ginger said she'd be willing to share prophetically how do we pray during this time I said yes yes lord and so we have taking advantage of it this is session number four today's guest is someone that I absolutely love I adore I'm learning so much from her she spent 40 years in ministry and yeah she's been out there teaching and training but she has spent so much time in her prayer closet learning directly from the Holy Spirit learning directly from God our father how to pray prophetically and she's here today to share that with us. Welcome author of my very favorite book, His Blood Speaks, Ginger Ziggler. What an introduction. I'm so honored to ask me to do this. It's wonderful. Thank you, Stacy. It's awesome. I absolutely love it, Ginger. Thank you because I know you're very busy. You're doing a lot of traveling. You're doing obviously a lot of recording yourself and so for you to come on and teach the Flyover family. I'm hearing a lot. I've I received text often from people. I was just at a live event in Oregon with Robin Bullock and Elijah Streams. Your name coming coming several times in conversations with other people. Um even a neighbor the day. They were walking by and we started talking about you. They had read your book and they're excited about these sessions as well. So, I'm just thankful. I'm thankful for what God is doing and before we actually dive into session for Ginger, you would talk to me just in private about the significance of this time that we're in right now and why this is so important that we are praying prophetically, can you talk a little bit about that? It's absolutely imperative that we hear what the prophets are saying. We've got we just need to go with the move of God. So whatever God's doing we just do that. We don't come and decide what we're going to do. So right now he's speaking and moving by the words of the prophet. Because of what he's doing then we want to cooperate with that. And of course we know Amos says he doesn't do anything without talking to his prophets. And that doesn't mean I'm some people go you know no he's going to talk to you too but the office of the prophet carries such a high level of authority and God isn't it wonderful though that God wants to talk to us and say y'all don't do this you do need to do this hey this come down the pack it ain't going to be good this is going to be awesome get ready for it and so that if you can receive it like that then your heart yearns for that information and want to know like God speak to my I was telling talk to my face you know talk to my face. Yes. And talk to me so that I can understand it because I want to pray with you. I want to partner with you. I and I read this. It must been back in the 60s I read this. And in some book I don't remember what book it was but it talked about how God always works with people to pray his will into the earth. Mm. And I thought wow. I want to learn how do that. Can you imagine getting can you imagine getting to pray with God and then we're like big God great big God. And he goes hey if you pray with me today you and me can get something done. And I said yes sir I won't do that. And so I think if we can have that kind of attitude that we what are you saying Lord right now. We are now we know we're headed toward victory. We believe that. Yeah. That we're really and truly Either or. It's going one way or the other. I've been praying for this nation since ninety-one. Who knows how many tens of thousand? I don't know. Maybe hundreds of thousands of prayers by now and all these years. And but it's either or. We're either going to win it or we're going to lose it. But when we lose it we're losing it not just for us but the whole world. Yeah. Every place I've ever gone. They've just said we're praying for you. We're praying all these foreign countries. We're praying. We're praying. And so we've got get this understanding. This is what God is doing. Okay. What you're doing Lord I want to do it. Yep. And make it just that simple and so we'd find out what are the prophets saying that. I know some of y'all Stacey you've heard this too. Well this prophet saying this and this prophet saying that. Well I mean read in the Old Testament. Jeremiah would say one thing and some of those other guys would say something else and then Daniel but Daniel was so smart. He went and he studied that and he said I figured out what Jeremiah said. So we had another prophet figuring out the another prophet said and he said hey guys we don't have to stay here forever we only have to do this for 70 years in fact we only have to do it for 67 and1half we can get out of here and so that's what we need see so listen to the prophets what do we need we need to hear what they're saying so we get out of this mess that we're in critical critical right now pray exactly what God is saying partner with him you learn to pray a lot of people Talk about this praying in the courts of heaven but the ancient of days courts. You learn how to cooperate with him. He will put his words in your mouth and then you'll see him manifest every single time but it doesn't happen just overnight. It takes a while to learn how to pray like that. Uh that's so good. So last session, I want you guys to know because I had a few people contact us. We were having an issue with our text. So, when you texted in to 40509 session three is not going out. So, I just want you guys to know it is on there. Uh we've checked it session three and session four are both on there. So, when you text the phone number four zero 5 zero nine. You'll actually get all sessions. Session one through session four is going to be a part of the text so make sure you text in to receive that but last time that we were together in session three, we were talking about mercy and grace which was very powerful. Uh we talked about the difference between Prophetic and Revelation which was very powerful and then the last thing that you discussed on the show was really kind of marching orders as to what we were supposed to be doing and the first thing is that we should be praying for the prophets you know we were I was just last weekend in Oregon with Elijah's Dreams Robin Boyke I said that met a lot of amazing people at that event but one of the things I said is the first thing that we have to be doing is praying for the prophets pray protection over them praying that their directly from the Lord. Pray for boldness and courage to to give these these prophetic words. So that's the first thing. Second thing is praying also for revelation for ourselves so that God is giving us revelation as to what we are supposed to be doing for our family. Um what is or where are we in the fight today? What does that look like? What are we supposed to be doing there? And then asking God to put his words in our mouth. And that's I think a big one that's part of today's session four is Understanding that there are different types of prayer. So can you cover that different types of prayer and different types of people that are praying? Well in Ephesians six Paul covers it. He talks about different types of prayers. And the reason is there are different types of situations. And so we don't do the cookie cutter. Everything's the same. We go to God and we find out how do I need to pray about this? What do I need to pray? Because sometimes it's going to take corporate prayer always provides us a a special anointing or a higher level of anointing of the Holy Spirit. Sometimes it's the prayer of agreement. Just the two of us or three of us. So we we just you know what? Stay we just need to learn. We're not as smart as we think we are. Just go like okay Father tell me what to do. And then just pray those prayers at that particular time. Sometimes it doesn't take but one word. You speak one more in that boom that's done. It's over. And then other times there's travailing prayer. I mean I've had that plenty of time. Not everybody gets that but well you pray all night long. I'm talking about crying laying on the floor. Sweat dripping out into your hair. Praying all night long and tongues travailing. And then there's other times Somebody just walk up and they'll say hey would you pray about this? I go okay and and it's done. I just know it's done. So we just need to say Lord teach us what do we need to pray? How do we need to do it? So right now so go in Ephesians six and just start studying it out. Supplication prayer. Petition prayers. What are they? How do they how do I do this? When do I do it? Right now we need supernatural prayers. We do. Praying out that the key to the prophets is what they're saying. You take what they're saying. Number one and then you say father how what they're saying how did it apply to me because I'm older obviously and my kids are growing my grand kids my great grand kids I might have different needs in praying something that the prophet said than if you were say I don't know 20s and you have 34 kids and you got a business going or maybe you're a pastor of a church see it'd be different so we would help me understand because if we can get positioned in prayer then we can those same words and we can pray and we can offer em up from where we are. We can offer em up to the lord as a decree to help the whole nation, the whole body of Christ. Again. That makes so much sense. So, it really depends on where you are in your life and then asking the lord how does this apply to me once he gives you that answer then it is taking asking you to put the words in your mouth so that you can decree those out. Because what happens Stacy is it connects up with your emotions. Yep. And then you just you don't become a robot. I mean if I was young and I had three or four or five kids and I'm trying to work two jobs and or maybe I'm pastoring a church and I'm trying to help my husband that depends on where I am. And then the prophet says y'all watch out because tomorrow you know something bad's going to happen. They're trying to start a war. Well if I go in there and I'm praying I'm home. My babies in my arms I'm going to with some emotion man. I don't want no war coming day after tomorrow. But at my age I would hold my great grandbabies in my arms and I would have totally different emotions. Yep. Because I would say Lord my days are numbered here. What do I need to do to stop this? And I'm going to stop it. Mhm. You and me together. How can we do this? I see it would be totally different because I'd come from a different emotional standpoint. And I'd have a different on the inside of me. And that's how people needs to learn how to work with the prophets. That's another thing like somebody like your age. We're so young and so pretty and all that. You're going to pray differently about this nation that I am. And so we see that we start to synergize. And we start to work together instead of against each other. If you have a certain way I'm going to pray for the nation about this isn't this? And then you come along with me and you're like this woman just Praying twenty-four seven. Does she ever sleep? Does she ever eat? You know, I can't pray like that. Well, maybe you can, maybe you can't but we can synergize together how can you pray? How can you help in what we're doing and everybody, I love Nehemiah. He said, alright, you guys, you get over here on this side of the wall and you get over here and you get over here and you build a gate and you do this and this, this and this. He knew exactly where to position everybody. Everybody had a bucket of mud in one hand and a sword in the other. Mm hmm. But everybody had a different position because they were different in their in life but together they did it 52 days think about that is a miracle it is it is a weird okay so question for you you know I can remember Benny Johnson writing the book Happy Intercessor so Bill and Benny Johnson from Redding California and I I read the book question for you is everybody an intercessor and is it important for all of the body of Christ to be praying right now. Everybody in the body of Christ has to be praying right now. Yes, amen. That's good. Yeah. As to everybody an intercessor. Actually, Kenneth Hagan said this many years ago. I think it was in the 70s to 80. He said, there's only one intercessor. Jesus ever lives to make intercession. So, he's the only he and the Holy Spirit, Romans eight. He's the only intercessor but we get to be a part of that but there's variations of quote intercessor. All it means is I stand between here and there. I'm standing and I'm making up the hedge. I'm making up the difference here and like I said go back to the different kinds of prayer and where you are and your intersession could be different than mine and sometimes people think well intersession. You gotta look up the words is that travailing and and we won't go into that on this program but that's that's another level. That's another type of praying that not everybody has few people have that. It's different. It's deep pray that words can't be articulated properly. And that's prevailing. It's it's it's it's different but everybody yes could like intercede or stand in the gap or pray prayers. And it could be from just simple prayers that you take straight from the scriptures. It could be prayers that you make decrees out of what the prophets are saying. And it ask God what he wants you to do. But I'm telling you every last one of you need to be praying. You need to do it right now. Yeah. And do it every time you turn around. I you get up to a stoplight. Pray. You you get up. Whatever you're doing, pray, pray, pray. Turn off the TV, turn off stuff. Pray all the time. You would be amazed how one prayer can turn something just like that. I remember this is years and years ago, many years ago, 30 years, something 31 years ago shared my daughter said something to me and when she did, it was about an attack that was going to that she saw was going to happen and we're standing at the table. I will around and I said in the name of Jesus by the power of blood, I forbid it. Boom. Just that was it. I mean like to 15 seconds. Later that day that situation happened. She was perfectly fine. Wow. I mean what no travailing. No like you know like let's see if I can find fifteen scriptures. It was like popped out of my mouth. And then there's other times you know prayed for months. Weeks. Years. You know. Wow. And so you just pray the prayers that he has for you. That's what intersession. You're standing in and your prayers are so powerful. I'm telling you people and the reason Stacy people don't want to pray because they really don't understand how easy it is and how much fun it is. It's awesome. It's awesome. You go get in the closet or get somewhere and you pray and then you find out God answered it. You have an absolute complete Holy Ghost fit by yourself. Wow. It's exciting. I did last week, last Friday. Mhm. That was in a and I I heard an announcement and I thought don't scream here in the middle of all these people and I was just choking it down and the tears were rolling. I was like because I just want to go because I knew exactly what happened because God didn't show me. I was beside myself. Wow. I stayed nice and calm. Nobody even knew who's going there. I was like I gotta get back to the hotel room because I gotta scream. Wow. That is exciting because you know that you partnered with God for that to come to fruition. That's amazing. You know something I have never heard that you shared was that it's a connection of your emotions when you're praying. That's why you are asking God how does this apply to me and then so you're you're emotionally putting yourself in that position and then you're praying. In Matthew twenty-eight it it we we used to like when we were in the denominational church we you know going to all the world and we thought that would get everybody saved but it actually says teach and make disciples. So I started looking up some of those words. I don't remember which one it is now but anyway it deals with your emotions. Then I begin to realize well that's right. We use our emotions for all the wrong stuff a lot times but God wants to take he Jesus himself was with the feelings of iron pearls moved. Why wouldn't we be when we're praying? For somebody. Make sense. And I'm not talking about being emotional. I'm talking about something that's so deep. Cuz when you don't want to get up you don't you went to bed at twelve and you don't want to get up at three and then work all day. Yeah. You don't want to get up at those that's something inside you. And I learned I said hey I'm emotional and I am emotional. When I went to heaven in 71 I was emotional. Yeah. I just jumped up down screamed and hollered. I was myself in heaven. Lord help us. But anyway I said okay so I'm emotional. So I started letting God work with those emotions and it brings me to pray for people when I would not slow down otherwise and do it. That is so true. Emotions. You might as well have emotions going to help somebody instead of some make somebody mad. I mean you're you're exactly right. And how does it apply to me? You know it's interesting because when we started the Flyover Conservative podcast our son Colton producer you know came to us and he said at that time we were just business owners. He was a business owner and he said, if we don't do something as a family to help to save this country, my kids are not going to be free and you know, I mean, I feel like crying right now because I don't know if I would have necessarily done it for myself but when I looked at my grand kids and thought, I cannot leave this worse off than I have it. There's no way. I I will do anything and you know, I'll I'll work hard. I'll learn whatever I have to learn. I'll stand against my fear. I'll do whatever for my grandchildren you know and so not on my watch I'm not going to let this go down and and so when you're saying that I'm like man why would it be any different when we go to pray why would it be any different that's right you know and you know my story I told you in ninety1 when I was in Cape Town South Africa and I was getting ready to preach and the holy spirit visited me the lord visited me and he said I want you to go back to America and I want you to help save America and I said do what Irene I don't know what you're talking about and so I said I'm going to do that and he said use the prayer group that you have and I was like I was trying to figure out I thought I'm getting ready to go preach. Aren't we supposed to be doing what I'm supposed to be you know? And so but I was like and I told him I said no I don't want to go back there. I like it out here. I love doing I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. I could go by myself. I wasn't scared. It didn't matter. I can't find my way to the grocery store but I found my way all over the world. And so I just like I love it and he's but he knew Sherry and John my son that were not married at the time and he said he took inside he grabbed my heart and he said I'm going to show you when you're an old woman what this nation is going to look like for your children your grandchildren and your great grandchildren and I'm going to show you what it's going to look like when you're a real old woman and he grabbed My heart and when I got through I lifted my head and I said yes sir I'm on my way back. Wow. And since that day people like they can't figure me out. I can't figure me out anyway. But they can't figure me out. This woman is driven. No. That same heart. Don't you know when I hold my great grandbabies? Yep. The emotions roll. Same thing. Yep. So I can stay up all night and pray all night. I'm going to walk all day. Cuz he did that because he didn't say well I'll make you famous and everybody will see you on the stage. He didn't say I'm going to give you millions of dollars. He got what was in my heart. Mhm. I said yes sir. I'm on my way back to the house. And I've been doing it ever since. So, we'll learn to use our emotions for the lord. Yes. And to help people. I I love that. I love that. Let's talk about the gift of prophecy and the the importance of prophecy to the body of Christ. Well, people get a little bit mixed up with prophecy. Sometimes, you know, we have the simple gift of prophecy which is one of the nine spiritual gifts and that's just to edify, build up, and comfort, help people, and any can do that. Anybody can have that gift but the gift that of the prophetic gift from the office of a prophet because of the office itself it carries the ability to literally change nations change cultures change people change people groups it the power of just read the Old Testament read the New Testament I mean it changes everything because it's coming from the office of a prophet so people are Prophetic and I've been saying this for years. I was driving down. I rode right out here. And the Lord said do you know that you're a generation of utterance and I said no sir what that is? Like years ago I was like oh I duh. And so he said that that's a prophetic and I said you mean prophetic like everybody's prophets or what are you talking about? And he said no. He said you're in you're in a dispensation where you have that prophetic edge and then I begin to see like I've told you before the whole Bible is prophetic. Mhm. So we're in the where we're more sensitive in the prophetic era. ERA. That we're in right now. Because from 2020 to 20 30 we're in the decade of the mouth. Which that's what prophecy's about. So it's the prophetic it just people a lot of times I think well you know I'm a prophet because I prophesied well if it's a simple gift of prophecy edifying building encouraging. That's just that's I don't want to say just but that is the gift of you know prophecy like in the nine spiritual gifts but when a prophet stands in the the pulpit and he goes boom thus saith God by this time tomorrow hey this whole grain's going to change what lot of people that are not in the prophetic office could say that and we could pray that but when when the prophet stands up and says that it's going to be by this time Tomorrow. It's actually going to happen by this time tomorrow. And so one of the things I do want to bring back on that first part where we're talking I I do want to teach on this just a little bit if we have enough time. You tell me when we're running out of time. But the different kinds of prayer where I want people to see and I've had to grow, grow, grow and I'm still growing, growing, growing, growing. We've got to mature. Because we're we've got the Prophecy, the simple gift of prophecy when it's not simple but the the gift of prophecy. I want to encourage you and I'm going to build you up and I'm going to tell you how wonderful you are and life's going to be better. And then we have the prophecy from a prophet. We all in the body of Christ. This is time to mature and grow up. Mm. And the reason we have so much discord going on with people saying stuff here and there the other place that is because of the immaturity in the body of Christ. People need to shut their mouth. If you don't know what you need to be saying, just knock it off. And so we need to get to the place where we're maturing because these scriptures that I I print out for y'all Luke 240 and Ephesians 411 and first Corinthians two is the best. That's the best one. In Hebrews 514, you'll see them on the notes when you get it. Um when you get the notes, it talks about maturing in the grace of of Jesus. The grace of God. Jesus himself had to touring grace. Isn't that amazing? It is. Grew in grace. Yep. Jesus. I know. Hard to believe. John. In John one verses fourteen through seventeen. He is a grace and truth. Hello. But yet Luke says he grew in grace. And what grace helps us do that's God's ability coming in changing the way we think. Which changes the way we act. Which changes the way our emotions respond which changes everything. Hits his grace. His power. So I'm I just want everybody to know Ginger covered that amazing on session three. I was so excited about it. I went to go see my mom and my sister was there and my dad and I it was before the show came out. I was like, it's going to come out on Sunday. You have to see it. You're not going to believe the difference between Grace and Mercy and I and I was like, did you know that you could change things in your life and this is how you do it in 1120 days. I I went through all, I gave them the whole thing before they even saw it. So, if you guys have not seen session three, go back and watch session three. You can find that on Flyover. live or the Fly app. It's the easiest way to find it and then again, those notes that Ginger was talking about with the scriptures and all of that, just text the phone number four zero 5 zero nine. Text the letter G Z as in Ginger Ziegler, GZ to four zero five zero nine. Go ahead, Ginger. I just want to make sure everybody knows about that last session because it was so good. That took me a long time, years, decades to learn that. I finally figured out. I was like, Grace, I mean, this is back in the ice age. I would like I would I would tell John my husband I'd say, honey, you got more grace than I do. So, just lay your hands on my head and and see if you can pray grace him and he'd go, whoa, I'll try but I don't think it works that way. Now, well, how does it work? Back in the 60s and the 70s and I go, I don't know but I know I need that. Oh. Awesome. So it took me all the way. It took me years and I go duh. I know how to do you go to the throne. I'm thankful that you know and you can share it with us. So that's why I can teach it because it took me forever. I kept thinking somebody could just lay their hands on my head. But anyway we've got to mature. My point today is we've got to mature. If we don't start maturing. People don't like grow up and this we don't go to church. Oh forgive me but I'm going to I'm going to hammer this one. We're not going to church that we're going to have cup of coffee and a doughnut and flip flops. We're going to church to have honor and respect for God almighty. Yes. We either going with him or we're going to hell one the other and so we need to learn that there's only two and so we're serving the one who loves us and is kind, merciful to us and going to help us. That doesn't mean everything in our life's going to be perfect but means you're going to have enough grace and strength and ability to be able to get through whatever it is to get to the other side and so the body of Christ needs to mature and I think we're having really bad days and we've got this cotton picking mess we got going on in this nation right now because we got such we got people that have been walking with God for 50 years and they're like a two year old brat and they need a spanking and so we need to mature. So go back over that and grow in grace. Grow in maturity. And that's what those scriptures say. You can look them up for yourself. We ought to teach on that sometimes. But anyhow we ought to because that is so important because people want to operate in a authority. Everybody wants to be somebody. So we want I want authority. And so you know we've got to mature enough that when we been given authority that our authority's not going to hurt people. But authority's going to help people. And if we're immature our authority's going to slam dunk somebody and hurt them. And they're going to end up not liking God and it's going to be our fault we're going to get in trouble. Mhm. That's really good. So you mature through grace. You mature the maturity comes through grace. We have to mature and it comes through discipline. Mm hmm. It come you you discipline yourself. You learn Paul said he didn't say I buffet my body every single day to keep it under subjection. He said I've learned to discipline myself. Discipline myself. And so I had somebody text me a couple of days ago and they said guess what? Discipline I didn't do for 40 days and I said I don't know what. And they said we we the two of us are getting together and we are disciplining ourselves from saying anything negative and I said oh that's interesting. Yeah. And they said would you pray for me? And I said I'll swap prayers with you. I said you pray for me. I'll pray for you. I said how y'all doing that? And he said every time I say something wrong she goes whoops. Every time she says something wrong I go whoops. And so we're practicing Discipline. Yes. Ourself. That's huge. That is huge. It's so important because the words that we speak create the world around us and we're planting seeds with our words, every word that we speak and I think it's important to really think about if everything that you said, everything that you've been speaking over this last few days or last year or the last few years of your life, if it came to fruition, is that the life that you want to have and then so being very aware of that that's something that we as a family the flyover family here that our team you know Colton and Avery and David and I that we try to do with each other too is keep each other accountable to the words that we're speaking that is important and that's discipline you're right it does come from discipline yeah it's discipline it just and I gotta tell you this funny story this is years ago the lord I had my big prayer meeting we were praying for the nation and the lord said I want you all to go on a five day pass and I said okay and so he said oh you want to know the rules of the fast? And I said, me, thought I knew the rules of the fast, right? You just drink water for five days automatic. Yeah. So, I had it figured out and he said, no, that's not exactly the rules. I said, okay. What is it then? And he said, eat tell each person that they go to me and I'll tell them what to fast. I said, oh, okay. So, he said, don't you want to know what you have to fast? And I said, well, yeah. What would I, I was trying to think what would I fast? Cuz I live a fasted life. I'm I'm trying to think, okay, listen, what kind of fast? Probably mouth yeah I figured that's what he's and he goes no you get to fast work and I said W R K like a horse. That would be a very hard thing for you. And I said what are we talking about? And he said you can't even make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I said whoa. You going to make up your bed? He said you're allowed to eat anything you want to eat. And I was like but you can't fix it. And I was like whoa. I said, like, I can't work and he said, nope. He said, you can take a shower and you can eat anything you want to. You can't make up your bed. You can't do anything. I want you to sit with your Bible in your lap for five days and five nights that your discipline. Wow. And I said, I'm never going to tell this publicly because people are trying to get out of work. Always say, God call me on a work. But that's huge because it's it's just that's just like Jesus. Every person that came to Jesus, it was always something different. You know, even if they were getting healed. One person, you know, he spit in the dirt and rubbing his eye. You know, I mean, it was like just different depending on the person. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. That would have been really hard for you. About maturity. So we gotta got you know what? Discipline works for one person. I mean he might tell one person to you know to do this or that and got to mature. And I I do want to do this one. Stacy if you don't mind y'all turn really fast because this this is this is what I this is a group of people and I'm not saying I'm all together and I know all this stuff and all that. I'm just saying these are the people that I want to talk to and it's and in first Corinthians chapter two. It's one of my favorite chapters in the whole Bible. And so first Corinthians chapter two and I'll go just really fast. Okay. And it's in the classified amplified. I like that the best. Okay. Um get down to like verse four because we don't have time to go through all of it. But verse four he said my language and my message was not was not set forth in persuasive, enticing, and plausible words of wisdom. Now look at this. Words of wisdom. Speaking the mystery in wisdom. This is very important. Words of wisdom. But they were in demonstration of the Holy Spirit. His words demonstrated the Holy Spirit. Mm hmm. And his words demonstrated the power of the Holy Spirit. That's very important. And his words because they demonstrated the power of the Holy Spirit. They were proof of the Holy Spirit. One, two, three. Got it? Boom. Boom. Boom. So now and going down just so I can do this maturity thing. Let's see. Look on down at verse six. He's talking about different people. He said I ain't come to y'all with he didn't say y'all but I'm sure I'm going to teach him how to say yeah I want to get to heaven. There you go. It's it's it's efficient. Anyway he he when he said you guys like all of y'all he said I'm not talking to you in man's wisdom. I'm not going to use words that's going to butter you guys up. I'm going to talk to you in this spiritual mystery wisdom. I got this mysterious way that I'm going to talk to you. Now now listen to what I'm saying. This is amazing. How to stand the mystery of the Holy Spirit, the mystery of wisdom. And so then he goes on down. He said when I'm with a full grown, the mature, spiritually mature Christians who are ripe in understanding. We do impart a higher wisdom. A higher wisdom. Spiritual wisdom. Isn't this amazing? Yes. There's people that we can talk to in a Not that they're better but they're maturing in wisdom. They're maturing in the things of God. Isn't this isn't this amazing? Mhm. In this this higher wisdom. That is in the the knowledge of the divine plan. Everybody wants to know what is God's plan? What is his destiny? I can't figure out what he wants. He said Paul said I'm trying to talk to y'all but y'all are like little whiny babies and I can't talk to you guys. I'm going to have to find somebody that's got this Our level that wants to mature, that wants to like really get down and find out what real wisdom is, what spiritual understanding is, what this mystery is all about. Ain't that beautiful? That is. And so he says it's not a wisdom of this age. But I just want to say Paul had to talk to certain baby Christians a certain way. He told him stop drinking that milk. Get on to the meat. But then he Had certain people he could talk to and I I don't want to prophesy but I I can I could prophesy this like prophesy like a prophesy. Mm hmm. God has words to say today through prophets. And the reason some of their words are not being received is because we have not gone up to this spiritual maturity that we need to be able to understand what God is saying through them. That's why there's so much discord in the body of Christ right now. This is huge. The babies are out over here trying to interpret what Prophet Bullet said or Chuck Pierce or who ever that sheets with this over here. And then you got these other people that are maybe a teenage type. I mean goodness. Talk to a teenager. You're like hello are you in this world talking? You know okay. I don't even know what they said when you get to talking. And so then you've got but you know we got spiritual people that are like that and then but he said these and I'm not talking you do not have to be a theologian. You don't have to know every Hebrew and Greek word in the Bible and you don't have to quote chapter after chapter. Just mature. Mhm. But to her in like what is the understanding of grace? How does grace work? Mhm. How do you hear from God? How do you know how to pray? How do you know when to pray? How do you cooperate with what God is doing right now? If he's doing apostolic and prophetic right now. That doesn't mean he's get getting rid of prophets. That don't mean he's getting rid of teachers. That doesn't mean he's getting rid of evangelists. That just if God doing this other thing. Let's just do what he's doing and let's see how it works within the church. Mm hmm. Let's see how it works within the local church. Let's see how it works in our prayer groups. Is that that's not too deep, right? No, it actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense because you just look at, you know, I'm 51 years old and I look over my life and how I've reacted through the years. I look how I was when I was a child. I look how I was when I was in middle school, in high school. I mean, in high school, I thought I knew everything that I was the smartest woman around that nobody knew more than I knew, you know, and then the older I got, I was like, oh my gosh, I know nothing. It's just interesting how that happens but it is maturity just in life if you are an adult. You know what that looks like. You've seen it, experienced it. It's the same thing in your spiritual life as well. It's a maturity growing in maturity there and you're exactly right. We've got to take care of this right here because something prophetically I've heard a lot over the last couple of weeks is about a unity of the body of Christ that the devil is all about separation and if he can keep us separated and keep us firing at each other and pulling our arrows back and shooting it at our own team then we're not going to accomplish anything. It's about us linking arms partnering with what God is saying and moving forward as the body of Christ as warriors in the spiritual war that's going on right now. And I'm not saying if somebody comes along and tries to tell me, I don't care if they're a prophet or what they are. They come along and they try to tell me that there's another way salvation other than Jesus in the well I'm not going to I'm not going to agree with them because I know what the Bible says. Sure. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying can we learn where we can agree so that we're not so disagreeable about everything because that we start off talking about where we are right now in this nation. That's that's going to make it or break it right there. Yep. I mean that is just like that's where it's at. And so We judge things by our spiritual level, whatever that is. If we're three years old in Christ, we're going to judge it by that. If we're 50 years old in Christ, we're going to judge it by that. We see it totally different. I'm 80 years old. I see things totally different now. Mm hmm. I go back in my mind and hear conversations that I had with my kids growing up and I go dumb, dumb, dumb. Oh my God and I fix that. Lord, let me go back. I was so stupid. You know, because now I see it totally differently different because I'm maturing not just in age but I've actually I've actually matured some emotionally too and so but this is where we are right now and we've got to understand to be able to pray what we're about to do and why are we going to get mad at a right arm if it's not a left arm why can't we just let left arm be a left arm and a right arm be a right arm it's like it's okay it's really okay Let them do what they do. But let's learn where we can agree on the written word not even not going to grow on the written word then you've lost me. I'm not going to go in agreement with you but as long as we can agree here how can we work together to turn this nation around? Because so many of the people are so immature today that they don't even realize how close we are within days of losing this nation or within days of getting one of the biggest wins we've ever had. I mean and I believe we're going to get the win myself. Yep. I mean God stay here this long so and I believe we're going to get the win. But I just wanted to make sure we covered this. Well we struggle sometimes in these different prayers. Yep. Because we haven't matured enough. Spiritually. As well as emotionally. So that we can actually go along with whatever God is saying. Look at I mean think About Moses. Looks like Moses, excuse me, lost everything but he didn't. I mean, you know, Jesus almost amount of transfiguration. Mm hmm. But he could only look over and see that land. Yep. Cuz his temper kept him out of it. Mm hmm. He never matured in that area. I don't blame him if I've been out there probably done worse. But I'm just saying it's time for us. We have the Holy Spirit within us. It's time for us to mature in the things of God. I love at. Alright, Ginger, before I let you go in this next couple of minutes, will you pray for the Flyover family and just all all of the listeners, me, just everyone in, you know, maturing and stepping into what God's called us to do. Oh father God, first of all, we beg you lord for mercy. Mercy, Lord, mercy because we fail. We know we have. We know we just messed up so many times but we know that your mercy is in your long suffering, your kindness, you just keep on helping us. And Father within that mercy we ask you to supply everyone of us. Grace. Grace to stop criticizing and judging. And beating each other up Lord. But grace to be able to say well God's working on that situation and I want to help. Grace to be able to say I got I cannot point a finger toward you because I got them all important back at me. Father we your grace. I am asking you Lord according to what you tell me in 2017, you said that this is Acts 433 great grace a movement of great grace an outpouring of great grace where there's signs wonders miracles and no need among us and father we will not get in the situation in Acts five and six and seven like they did lord. We will stay in that verse thirty-three. We'll stay with signs, wonders, miracles to the whole ends of the earth is saturated with your love and with your mercy with your long suffering within be able to see the truth about Jesus Christ. The truth about the power of your blood that your blood is speaking and nothing absolutely is to us because we have the ability to overcome Satan at every turn because we have your blood in our mouth father God I just ask you wake the people up and give them a hunger and desire to discipline themselves to where they can study study pray pray day and night and where they're running after you lord to where you are running after them and they'll say yes Sir. Yes sir. Yes sir. At every turn I say yes sir. Yes sir. Yes sir. Yes sir. Yes sir. As we honor you sir. We thank you father. Thank you Lord Jesus. Thank you Holy Spirit. I ask you Father. For the holiness and the reverential fear of God almighty to come upon this nation to come upon your people so we can see whom we have crucified and yet resurrected. And we can see you looking down at us. Jesus. Your eyes and our eyes. Her eyes and your eyes. Your heart and our heart. We worship you lord. Mm hmm. Thank you father. Yes. Thank you Lord Jesus. Thank you Holy Spirit. Amen. This holiness is coming. Whoo. Amen. So powerful. As you were talking earlier Ginger and as you were praying God just kept bringing this thought to mind of just that emotional thing that you were saying there. Ask God you know how does this apply to me it just made me think you know we've heard stories of a grandparent that you know a car was on a child or a mother that the car was on a child and they pushed that car off. You know, it's just supernatural strength that you would never have but that's how I felt like when we're praying right now. When we put our self in our this position and we can see, you know, how does this apply to me? How does this apply to my family and then we pray from that, nothing can stop us. Nothing can stop us. We've already seen what happens in the natural. Imagine what's happening in the supernatural. As always, I'm always blown away by what I learned from you and so thankful for your time. 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It doesn't cost you any money whatsoever or to do the same thing, you can just call 720-6zero 5 3 nine zero zero. Hello Flyover family join me every Wednesday for the Prophetic Report at 11/ 11 Central, you can find it on Rumble you can find it on the Flyover app we have such an incredible time of hearing from all of these different prophetic voices like Robin Bullock Julie Green Barry Wench Amanda Grace and Hank Kunaman every week it's either five or six different prophets that are speaking and what's interesting is God is speaking through them and all of these voices come together like puzzle pieces it is so to hear what the Lord is saying. We're hearing from medical. We're hearing from military intelligence. We're hearing from the financial world. We're hearing from mainstream media but the most important is what is God saying it. He is not falling off the throne. He's not nervous. He's not chewing his nails. He is in control. He has plans to prosper us and not to harm us. What a great time to be alive and I'm so excited for you to join me every Wednesday at eleven eleven. You. Alright, let's get our stuff together here. Hi, I'm David Whiteis. We If we could skip the high money because that's where I got attended the rail. Hi. But I did good. See, look. First thing says. Say your name. Say your name. Say your name. Have you been wondering what to do with the spare time you have on Saturday mornings? Have I got a way for you to fill that time? Not cleaning your garage, folding your laundry, or doing something with yourself. Filling your head with information about what may or may not have happened 5000 years ago. Have you ever wondered about ancient civilizations or about chemtrails in the sky or have you ever had a friend at school talk to you about friend at school? Some days when you're sitting there with your lunch pale, you're talking to your friends at school and they they bring up your flatter. She's thinking you're fat. I don't know if your flatters just flat or not down on alligators. They're angry because they got no teeth and no toothbrush. And it's all true. And we talk about it every Saturday. We talk about Ruby's cubes and stuff. We like to have conversations with people that have made documentaries, written books. Oh, this is terrible. I can like film myself hating watching this later. Okay, give me a swoosh. Do this thing for real this time. Bye. Got a show for you. My my hand by my eyes red now? You won't be able to tell there, Peter can fix it. Can you run it through a filter? Can you run it through the Brad Pit filter and get rid of my red eye? Oh, I'm probably doing the world a disservice. President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States. Exclamation point at real Donald Trump. Well at real Donald Trump. At least I will go down as a president. I know people have talked to you about whether or not you want to run. Would you would you ever? Never got so bad. I would never want to rule it out totally. A new world order. These allegations are false. Weapons of mass destruction. The USA patriot. The blueprint for large corporations. We once were we are no longer a Christian nation. Donald Trump confirmed that he's considering Iran in twenty sixteen. Do it. I am officially running for president of the United States. He will never be president of the United States. Donald Trump will never be elected President of the United States. People are watching these results come in. Are going to make this decision now. Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States. Does it ever seem to you that President Trump has done more than any president in modern history? In the ten years I've been involved in politics, I've never seen an administration hit the ground running like this. I can spend the rest of the hour laying out the accomplishments under the Trump presidency despite everything thrown at him. America's just had his 12th straight record closed. Taking action to save as many kids as they can. We were energy independent under the Trump administration. More Americans reported being employed than ever. Those who have served our country in the military. To get access to mental health care. The Great American Outdoors Act is the largest single piece of legislation to support our national parks and public land. Created more than 7 million good paying jobs. Websites can be held liable in court for having sex trafficking content. The Abraham Accords which for any other president would have been multiple peace prizes. America did not enter into a foreign war. The deployment rate in the US felt at three and a half percent. The First Step Act eases federal sentencing for non-violent offenders. Increase funding for historically black colleges and university. Allows terminally ill patients easier access to experimental drugs. Kept the inflation rate low honored with the bipartisan justice award. Had a massive MS-13 gang problem. 3. 9% is the unemployment rate. Requiring airports to provide lactation rooms for breastfeeding mothers. Middle class family income increased nearly $6, 000 dollars. A dramatic escalation in his crackdown on illegal immigration. An advocate for educational choice. Terry on Mexico and Canada. An act preventing animal cruelty and torture. Taking out Baghdadi, the head of Isis, Soleimani, the Iranian general. Save Our Seas Act commitment to environmental issues. We're saying merry Christmas again. Community development in low income urban and rural communities. Help us to remember the importance of fighting off tyranny. Pulling out of UNESCO, the World Health Organization, the Paris climate accords, reassessing NATO and the United Nations. So for Christianity and the constitution more than any president in American modern history. We are stopping the attacks on Judeo Christian values. 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