The Great Wall of Tartaria - Who is telling the truth? - by 'Ancient Historia'

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'Is the Great Wall of China actually the Great Wall of Tartaria? Today we’re going to find out. Where did this theory come from? Was it Anatoly Fomenko? Was he correct? Find out now.'

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was the Great Wall of China actually
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built by the
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tartarians this is a question that has
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come up time and time again on today's
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episode I'm going to explain where this
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Theory came from then discuss the
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official narrative and allow you to
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judge for
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yourself the theory states that the
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tartarians were the true Constructors of
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the great wall and not the Chinese the
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official narrative claims the war was
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built to stop the barbarous Mongol
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Invaders but theorists say that China
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has taken credit for the vast construct
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originally designed to keep them out
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they point to images of the wall which
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appear to show Arrow slits and
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battlements pointing towards China there
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are also other depictions which would
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appear to show the openings on the North
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side facing tartter could this be
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evidence that the Great Wall was in fact
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built by the tartarians and not the
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Chinese well I wanted to find out more
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so I started to search for the first
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person to make this claim
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a quick perusal of the internet archive
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shows the theory became popular on Tik
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Tok in the past few years and although
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many YouTubers have Shi away from
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discussing the topic directly there have
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been a few I managed to track the theory
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down in a book called One World
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tartarians which was released in 2022
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where it becomes clear that the origins
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of this conspiracy lay in the hands of
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Russian mathematician Anatoli
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FCO if you aren't familiar with fco's
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work he's a professor at Moscow State
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University University who further
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developed and expanded upon theories put
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forward by Soviet writer Nikolai morizo
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essentially FCO claimed he found
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discrepancies in chronological dating
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which meant that everything recorded as
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happening before 1100 ad had been
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fabricated by Jesuits in the 16 to
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1700s he also claims the tartarian or
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Mongolian Empire was actually the great
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Russian Empire which controlled the
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world until Russia was taken over by the
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European romanovs at this point history
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was falsified to remove mentions of this
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great Russian Empire however critics
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within the tartaria community suggests
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fenco has ulterior motives with his
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theory being incredibly Russ Centric and
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promoting Russian nationalism the idea
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of Russia being the Mongols removes
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their centuries of subjugation to the
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tartar yoke it also removes a
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long-standing history of Russian
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aggressions against the indigenous
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people and rewrites a story of invasion
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and poverty into one of unity and
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prosperity so we will now examine fco's
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specific claims about the Great Wall in
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volume Five of his new chronology he
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quotes morar as saying the idea that the
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building of the famous Chinese wall with
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a height of 67 M and A thickness of 3
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stretching for 3,000 km began in 246 BC
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and was only finished after
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1,866 years by 1620 ad is ridiculous
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he's saying the idea of starting a
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defensive structure which will not be
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completed for 2,000 years is nonsensical
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bco further explains the wall is too
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thick for defending against arrows and
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Spears with a thickness suggesting was
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built to defend against cannons this
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would Place its construction in the 15
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to 16th century this was further backed
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up by the seeming lack of mentions of
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the war before this period for example
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Marco Polo never reported seeing such a
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structure when he traveled to China
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between 1271 and 129 5 ad Professor FCO
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also notes how some people such as Arab
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historian Abal feda seemingly describe
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the wall as the wall of Gog and MOG bco
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then quotes Russian historian Lev gev as
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saying the wall stretches for 4,000 km
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its height reached 10 m with watchtowers
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every 60 to 100 m but when the works
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were finished as it turned out that all
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the Armed Forces of China were not
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sufficient to organize effective defense
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on the wall if you put a small
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Detachment on each Tower it will be
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destroyed before the neighbors give help
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bco highlights this fact and asks why
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the Chinese did not think about this
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before building the wall he then goes on
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to offer his own hypothesis He suggests
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that the Great Wall was constructed as a
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simple border between the Russian and
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Chinese empires in the 17th century in
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this hypothesis Russia already owns all
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the land which was known as Chinese
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tarty and had done for many years he
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also says it owned China into around the
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1600s when the introduction of the
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romanovs saw China seed from the Empire
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after some years of bickering the
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Chinese and Russian Empires finally put
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down their borders on paper and to
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commemorate the moment the Chinese built
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a wall along the established perimeter
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the wall was merely ceremonious as
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discussed before it couldn't be feasibly
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defended therefore it stood to act as a
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monument to the agreement and to prevent
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further disputes he also says it's
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possible that the Chinese constructed
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the wall in in fear of the romanovs who
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had taken over the Russian Empire
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although this would contradict the
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points he'd previously made about the W
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being undefendable to back his great
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border wall Theory up famco shows a
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series of maps from the 1600s which show
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The Great Wall of China he says that the
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Great Wall did not appear on maps before
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this period coupled with the fact Marco
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Polo did not record seeing the wall in
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1290 this would also suggest it hadn't
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been constructed until the
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1600s he also points at how the great w
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seems to perfectly follow the border of
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China how is it possible that the
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ancient Chinese in 200 BC knew exactly
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where the modern border of China would
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be to offer more evidence FCO points to
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the Treaty of an achinsk signed in 1689
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between Russia and China which formerly
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identified each other's borders bco
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quotes this section from kov notes the
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emperor began his implementation of his
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plan of squeezing Russian from the Amor
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River by building a chain of
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fortifications the emperor in 1684 sent
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to the Amo a Manu Army fenco says these
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fortifications are clearly describing
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the Great Wall of
The Achinsk Treaty
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China except they're not a simple look
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at the location of the Amo River about
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700 Mi away from the Great Wall will
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immediately make you question this
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narrative by fco's Logic the Amma River
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would be well into Russian territory and
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therefore it doesn't make sense why the
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emperor was sending an army to clear out
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the Russians if we look at this map we
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can see the red line showing where the
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1689 treaty established the real Border
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in the Years building up to this treaty
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the Russians had slowly been moving
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south from yakuts and had penetrated as
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far into Manchuria as the amama river
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the Emperor of China a Manchurian tartar
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who had taken over China in 1644 sent an
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army to repel them after doing so they
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built fortifications along the ammo
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River to prevent further attacks
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at the time the Russians lacked the
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infrastructure to move large amounts of
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troops and supplies across Siberia and
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as a result the Manu had them heavily
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outmanned and outgunned the Russians
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were tied up fighting the Mongols around
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Lake Bal and the manew were also busy
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trying to subdue the various nations of
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Chinese tarty to establish their empire
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in 1689 they signed the nins treaty
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which officially established the borders
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between the two empires and whilst both
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sides were unhappy with the terms of the
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agreement it put an end into hostilities
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these borders remained for 200 years
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until the fall of the tartar Dynasty at
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the end of the Opium Wars when Russia
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finally took the Northern Bank of the
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Amor back where they evicted the locals
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and russified the cities it wouldn't
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make any historical or geographical
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sense if the fortifications mentioned
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being built on the Amma River were in
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fact referring to the Great Wall of
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China this is an example of how fenco is
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rewriting Russian invasions he's moved
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the Border 700 mil South and gifted
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Russia the entire territory of Mongolia
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and manua earlier we mentioned moriz
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off's claims that a wall taking 2,000
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years to build is ridiculous and how the
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wall seems to appear on maps starting in
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the 1600s firstly he's correct a
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defensive structure taking so long to
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build would be futile and this is where
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you might accuse morizo and fenco of
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being disingenuous you see official
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history doesn't actually claim the wall
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to be that old it's more tourist
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propaganda if we briefly examine in the
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history of the wall we'll learn it was
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constructed by the kin Dynasty the first
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dynasty of Imperial China in around 200
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BC they built it to stop the frequent
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incursions of the Zion new the ancestors
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of the Huns Turks Mongols and tartars
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the only problem is it wasn't the same
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wall and it wasn't even the first the
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earliest iterations of these barriers
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were built by independent Chinese
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Nations who were Waring for control from
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around the 5th Century BC there are most
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likely even older walls that we haven't
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found yet or have been completely
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destroyed looking at this map all the
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yellow lines are barriers constructed by
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these various Waring Nations when
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historians claim the Great Wall is
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almost 3,000 years old it's because they
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are talking about these earliest
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iterations the lighter orange line is
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the wall built by the kin Dynasty they
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are attributed as being the original
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Builders of the Great Wall as it was the
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first barrier built by a unified China
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rather than independent states so in
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that sense we can say the Great Wall is
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2,200 years old
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but that's still not technically correct
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we can see that for about 400 years
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after the kin Dynasty the Han Dynasty
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went about building or rebuilding the
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walls shown here as the darker Orange
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Lines China then separated once more
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into Waring Nations and we can see
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sections built by the northern way the
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northern key and the S Dynasty Northwest
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of
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Beijing nothing happened for 400 years
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until the rise of the kitan LA dasty who
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invaded from manua which at the time was
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named kit or cath curiously this is why
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the word for China in Russian is kit
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because when they first learned of China
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it was ruled by the kitan and as a
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result they named it after them which
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brings up a curiosity in 1533 in Moscow
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the Russians invited Italian architect
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pet truck frian to build them a large
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defensive wall around the city this wall
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they named Kitty gorod which translates
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to China City or perhaps more accurately
The Ming Dynasty
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kitan City why would the Russians hire
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an Italian architect to build them a
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wall called China City anyway back to
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the map and you can see the Lao who are
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the kitens and the following Jin Dynasty
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constructed their walls on the borders
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of manua and Mongolia showing the
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increased size of their territory which
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are represented by the light purple
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lines on the map of course the walls
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failed and the Jin fell to the Mongol
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Empire in 1237 with China remaining
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under tartar control until 30 1968 with
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the rise of the Ming Dynasty the Ming
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Dynasty began construction on a new wall
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depicted on the map in dark purple with
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this wall intended to prevent further
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incursions by the Mongols this is the
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wall we know today constructed between
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1368 and 1644 by the Ming Dynasty 1644
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of course being when the Manu tartar
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took over China and hence further
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construction on the wall subsided after
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Manu took control the Chinese borders
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were far beyond the great wall and as
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such the wall was no longer necessary
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and no further work was seemingly done
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on it until the 1950s when they
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performed restoration work fenco was
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technically correct the wall we see
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today is at most about 600 years old but
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I'm pretty sure he will have already
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known this and it's not exactly secret
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information therefore his earlier
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arguments now seem disingenuous FCO
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isn't definitive with a date for
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construction but He suggests between
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1620 to 1690 as the limits for when it
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was built he also showed us a series of
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maps to confirm the Great Wall appears
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in in the 1600s the earliest I could
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find is from 1584 which is 100 years
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before the Treaty of nins he asks why
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did the Great Wall not appear before
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this furthermore why did visitors such
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as Marco Polo not describe the wall if
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we compare the sections of the Ming
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Dynasty wall with the sections built
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long before we'll see an obvious
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difference one is a magnificently
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constructed piece of masonry and the
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other is essentially a dirt Mound these
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walls were not made of masonry but just
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tightly packed dirt with rocks so this
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could explain why Marco Polo didn't
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mention it because it wasn't even a wall
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and the most recent constructions had
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been on the Manu and Mongolian borders
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by the Lao and Jinn dynasties many miles
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away before that the most recent
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constructions were in 400 ad and that
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means 800 years had passed by the time
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Marco Polo was in the area meaning these
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walls would have most likely heavily
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degraded also fenco suggested the reason
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that Marco Polo didn't mention the wall
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is because it didn't exist yet but he
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also tells us that Abal feda called it
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the wall of Gan MOG Abal feda visited
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China around 30 years after Marco Polo
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which would imply the wall must have
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been there just Marco didn't see it one
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explanation is that Abal feda was seeing
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one of the walls built by the Jin or La
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Dynasty in manua or Mongolia this would
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seemingly be backed up by the fact that
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MOG was used as a word for Mongol in the
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Middle Ages therefore a wall of Gog and
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MOG would be a wall of Mongolia this is
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probably referred ref ing to the war
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built by the Jin Dynasty to keep the
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Mongol Empire out Marco Polo didn't
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travel to these areas and as a result he
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never saw the Jin wall as we mentioned
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the wall we see today was constructed by
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the Ming Dynasty after they broke free
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from the Mongols in 1368 therefore the
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wall appearing on a 1584 map is probably
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what we'd expect that gives about 200
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years for the wall to be constructed for
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someone to visit and record seeing it
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and then take that information back with
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them to create the map FCO also said the
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war was built as a border between the
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Russian and Chinese Empires and that
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these Maps were evidence of that firstly
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one of the maps he provides as evidence
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in his book if you look closely by the
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wall in Latin it reads a wall of 400
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leagues built by the king of China
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between the cracks of the mountains
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against the incursions of the tartars
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and if we look at an English version of
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the map we can see again the same thing
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a wall of 400 leagues built between the
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bottoms of the mountains by the king of
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China against the incursions of the
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tartars now I'm sure fenco will claim
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this is some kind of falsification but
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I'm afraid you can't have it both ways
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you can't use the map as evidence to
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provide your point and then claim the
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map has been tampered with when it
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shatters your narrative secondly he
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asked how the ancient builders in 200 BC
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would be able to construct a wall which
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perfectly matched the borders of China
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1,800 years later well as we saw earlier
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they didn't so this point is just wrong
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this map from earlier clearly shows the
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position of the Ming wall the section
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where the tourist View and the various
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positions of the older ones which like I
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said were not masonary but were made of
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compacted dirt and rocks now that we've
The official explanation
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dealt with fco's Russian side of the
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theory let's go back to the original
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claims that the war was tartarian at
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this point I decided to ask an expert to
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provide the official explanation because
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they know it better than me and you can
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decide for yourself whether it's
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accurate the expert says the idea that
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the arrow slits or battlements are only
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facing China is is incorrect if you use
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Google Earth to zoom into some of the
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sections of the wall you can see that
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the kreni face North in regards to some
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of the defensive elements facing south
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the wall was intended to make it
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difficult for invading armies to get in
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and also to get back out the Invaders
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would usually form raiding parties and
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rush into Chinese lands attempting to
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pillage and steal and the wall was meant
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to subvert such practices if the
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attackers broke through the walls
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Defenders would need to be able to
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engage the invad ERS on both sides of
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the barrier it also acted as a signaling
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system which allowed for the fast relay
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of information regarding the movements
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of enemy troops it was never intended to
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defend the whole wall watchtowers would
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spot an invading Army approaching and
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Signal flares would allow the Chinese to
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gather at the correct section of the
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wall to repel the attack so that's the
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official explanation for why the wall
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was in fact Chinese and was built to
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stop tartar Invaders and not the other
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way around there are people who still
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suggest the wars were modified in the
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1900s during repair work to remove some
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of these things and make it look more
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Chinese and make it appear like it was
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facing north but that's up to you if you
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want to believe that so what do you
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think was the Great Wall built by
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tartarians to prevent Chinese Invaders
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was it like Professor fenco suggests a
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simple border war between the great
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Mongolian Russian Empire and the Chinese
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constructed in the 1600s or was it
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simply the Great Wall of China built by
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the Ming Dynasty to prevent the
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incursions of Invaders let let me know
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in the comments below so thank you for
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watching this episode I'm really curious
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to hear everyone's opinions no matter
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which side you believe if you believe
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it's great wall of tataria if you
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believe it's the Great Wall of China or
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if you think it's uh you know a border
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between fco's giant Russian Empire I
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