(October 13th 1995) Dr. Richard Sauder interviewed about his meticulously researched book "UNDERGROUND: Bases & Tunnels- What is the Government trying to hide".

This interview is being done at the same time Phil Schneider is doing his lectures around Western United States on the Military Underground bases and in one of Phil's lectures he holds up Richard Sauders book "UNDERGROUND: Bases & Tunnels- What is the Government trying to hide" and tells his audience this is where they will learn more about the DUMBS (DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES).

Ted Loman (Eye patch guy) holds up @41 second mark Richard Sauders book at the beginning of this interview. Ted Loman's UFOAZ Talks Series. This was an old VHS tape converted to digit.

Richard Sauder lives in Ecuador and doesn't do many interviews but he is definitely the EXPERT on these deep underground bases due to his meticulous & extensive research into them.