[CLIP] Exposing the 'Nudge Units' Helping Governments Control People's Behavior: Laura Dodsworth

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“I'd be really careful about any movement that has ‘zero’ in it. I just hear the ‘zero’ now and I shiver. We had zero-COVID, net zero, and it just puts in my mind to be honest Pol Pot’s Year Zero. Be aware of the zero. What is zero? It is nothing. It's a big gaping hole. it's an eternal nothingness. It's a moral flatlining. Never aim for a zero. I don't think that there's anything necessarily deliberate about this. I don't think that the people that aimed for zero-COVID and the people that aim for net zero have got some kind of dastardly zero plan going on. It's more that it's symbolic of something quite nihilistic. Both zero-COVID and net zero were about a constriction of humans to a nothingness. To achieve zero-COVID, you had to be cut off from the world - a hermit kingdom. Never leave your house. Never see your face. There was something so miserly and anti-human about it. And it's the same as net zero involves rewinding to a kind of a pre-industrial area where we live in mud huts, and we don't have anything we can't have heating, you know, the things that have saved us, you know, good diets, heating, lots of farming, they don't want that they want us to rewind and live like serfs. They're such unpleasant, miserly visions for the world. So. I don't think there's anything deliberate. I just think the symbolism comes through, because it's people that have this really miserly view of humanity.” - Laura Dodsworth