‘He’s Going to Get Convicted’: Megyn Kelly Says No Doubt Trump Will Lose Hush Money Case

ABRAMS: “Let me switch gears. I want to talk about the hush money case. Look, you know, I’ve said many times, I think that the Manhattan D.A. shouldn’t have filed this case, I think it’s a misdemeanor souped up to look like a felony. I think it took too long to bring the case. I think the D.A., Bragg, brought it after getting slammed for not filing criminal fraud charges against Trump. And I think, by the way, that no matter what the outcome, it’s going to help Trump politically. But with all that said, at the least on the misdemeanor of filing the false record, meaning pretending that the payments to Stormy Daniels were legal expenses, it sure seems like they have a pretty strong technical legal case against him, no?”
Kelly: “This statute of limitations has expired on the misdemeanor, so no.”
ABRAMS: “That’s a legal issue that’s already been — you know, he can argue that you can’t argue that in front of the jury.”
Kelly: “But, Dan, the only reason, as you know, that he was allowed to revive a dead misdemeanor, dead because of the statute of limitations, by saying it was a misdemeanor to cover up an underlying felony, which was this election money, campaign donation that he was trying to cover up, that’s the only thing that reinvigorated this dead charge, and that’s a B.S. charge too. It’s all tied together. So I don’t think there’s any legal merit to any piece of this, not one piece. But you’re talking about why the case shouldn’t have been brought, right? I mean, you’re saying that as a result, the case — “
Kelly: “You bring a case that’s barred by the statute of limitations.”
ABRAMS: “Okay, but you’ve lost that argument already, right? That argument’s been litigated and lost, and so now there’s a trial, the case is happening. And my point is, now that the case is happening, right, even though I am one of the people who has publicly said I don’t think he should have filed these charges, now that the case has been filed, at least on the misdemeanor, it seems to me that they’ve — you know, it’s going to be a tough defense.”
Kelly: “Oh, he’s getting convicted. I don’t really think there’s a lot of mystery about that. He shouldn’t, but he’s going to get convicted. The jury’s going to hate him. Manhattan went 92 percent — between 87 percent and 92 percent for Joe Biden. That’s where this is going to be tried. These are not Trump lovers. And even the Trump survey that he attached to his most recent motion showed that 61 percent of the jury pool that they surveyed already thinks he’s guilty.”
ABRAMS: “But they also could just be following the evidence. I mean, it doesn’t have to be — again, again, putting aside whether it should have been prosecuted, whether you’re biased or not biased, and they’re gonna try and root that stuff out, the facts in the case — for example, you don’t actually believe Trump didn’t have an affair with Stormy Daniels, as he says, right?”
Kelly: “I do not — no, I believe there was — there was an interlude. I don’t know if — affair may be too strong.”
ABRAMS: “All right. Fair enough. Fair enough, true to the language. But some — you know, the sex happened between them. And that’s going to be a tricky part of his defense, right? His defense is going to still be, ‘It didn’t happen, but I wanted to make this go away to protect my family, etc.’ I mean, putting aside whether the jury’s in Manhattan or the jury’s somewhere else, it’s a tough technical case for him.”
Kelly: “Look, I think the jury’s going to believe that he paid off a porn star before the election to make her go away, and that he didn’t write down in his books ‘hush money to Stormy Daniels’ because no one in the history of hush money payments has ever written that in any book anywhere. It defeats the whole purpose of a hush money payment.”
ABRAMS: “It does.”
Kelly: “But the thing I can’t get past now — so, I grant you, yeah, they’re probably going to convict him, they’re gonna convict him pretty easily, I think, but the thing I can’t get past, that everybody skips by in this whole thing, is I had this former campaign election guy on my phone — on my show, who was really learned in all of this, and he said the only way that you can prove it’s an actual campaign donation, in order to help your campaign, which is what they’re alleging in this, is if the money would never, under any circumstances, had ever been paid for anything other than to support one’s campaign. So, a hush money payment to a woman saying, ‘I’m going to go public with our affair,’ would not qualify because there have been lots of men, rich and powerful in particular, who paid that money time and time again. So unless you could prove that the only reason he would have done it was to help the ‘16 campaign, you fail that test. And that’s what’s gonna happen here.”
ABRAMS: “That’s for the felony. Yes, that’s for the felony. Yeah.”