Post-Debate Commentary: Destiny vs. Haqiqatjou

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0:00 Title
2:06 Start of the Stream: How the debate went
4:59 How the debate came about
6:22 DH thoughts on Destiny
9:09 DH's gift to Destiny
9:57 DH's gaming background
13:34 DH on the debate topic + Liberal moral superiority
19:26 DH's argument against liberalism
21:21 Liberalism is against human nature
29:12 DH's disappointment in Destiny's arguments against Islam
30:26 Destiny dismissed liberal colonialism
33:05 Destiny implying naturalistic fallacy
36:56 Destiny undermining evolutionary biologist and psychologist
37:26 Is Marriage and liberalism in conflict?
44:48 Marriage is the basis of human society
46:36 Destiny's claim people being equals means people are all the same
49:19 Difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome
52:15 Equality doesn't mean sameness
57:23 Liberalism's 'Equality before the law'
59:59 The 'liberal future' liberals should ok with
1:05:05 Destiny repeating equality does not equal sameness
1:05:35 Reducing these inequalities will destroy institutions that humans value
1:07:27 How technology is affecting women, familial bonds and marriage
1:12:33 Power differential in Islam
1:13:20 Liberals have a problem with house wives/motherhood
1:19:26 Islam incentivizes marriage, does not force people into marriage
1:22:27 Brain in the vat thought experiment + Materialist World view
1:25:33 Maximizing pleasure + minimizing pain + liberals contradiction of their principles
1:28:30 DH on Destiny limiting the debate to 20 second back and forths
1:29:23 liberalism is imposed on the entire globe
1:31:06 How liberals view hudud
1:32:59 Hudud vs liberalism's 'just system'
1:36:11 Why DH asked Destiny what he meant by LGBT person
1:42:21 The modern LGBT person leads to the destruction of humanity
1:48:00 Can a tree exist in a forest fire?
1:49:15 Freedom & equality is human nature but Islam limits it
1:57:01 How LGBT is just environmental influence
1:59:49 How to counter liberals appeal to emotion
2:02:39 DH on blind followers & echo chambers + Destiny as a debate
2:08:06 Liberal person living in a Muslim society vs a Muslim living in a liberal society
2:17:05 Muslims living under liberalism due to colonialism
2:22:26 How counter 'the earth is overpopulated'
2:26:05 Maximum liberal society vs Maximum Muslim society
2:28:46 Liberalism destroy traditional religion + Destiny's simplistic view of liberalism
2:34:32 Liberalism destroying the LGBT community
2:41:50 Ex-communication from communities under liberalism
2:45:02 Destiny concedes the debate + appealing to his liberal base
2:47:42 Liberal Muslims are not representative of traditional Muslims
2:50:25 Although Muslims practicing aspects of Islam does not mean it's not being attacked
2:57:26 Islam discourages people from living marriage
3:01:13 How prenups work in a liberal society
3:03:29 Destiny in interview mode
3:06:17 Liberalism incentivizing being a single person
3:08:15 Liberals progressive outlook of human history
3:10:06 Break
3:17:05 Back from break
3:18:16 - Muslims want to live in liberal societies?
3:18:54 - Should Muslim Skeptic have merch?
3:19:18 - Sweden making that Muslim youth don't become 'too Muslim'
3:22:02 Polygyny not allowed under liberalism
3:23:00 DH wants to debate a feminist
3:24:29 DH teaches the pen trick
3:26:25 The epistemological philosophy of the brain in the vat thought experiment
3:28:46 Logical conclusion of liberalism and how the thought experiment is relevant
3:33:43 liberalism seeks to abolish parenthood
3:39:47 Technology reducing duties and it's role in liberalism
3:42:15 What is reality in a materialist worldview?
3:44:54 - What is happiness according to the materialist worldview?
3:50:14 - Liberal tolerance is false
3:53:48 'Liberalism is so compelling'
4:01:40 How does liberalism preserve community?
4:06:43 Islam acknowledges that you can live as minority therefore it's impossible to oppress Muslims?
4:08:47 Secular Turks
4:13:09 Liberalism sees communities as a threat
4:16:17 Destiny making stuff up about Maldives
4:19:18 Liberal colonialism creates structural inequality
4:30:52 Fetishization of economic growth destroys happiness
4:32:49 Marriage is like a business contract
4:36:42 People cannot defect from liberalism
4:43:30 Destiny's ignorance of Islam
4:44:44 CVE and monitoring of Muslims
4:51:33 Pluralism
4:56:05 Why aren't Muslims liberalizing?
5:03:17 Child marriage
5:06:38 Child marriage is a problem for the materialists
5:10:16 Liberals distorted view of child marriage
5:13:10 Nature of a moderated debate
5:16:38 French vs British brutality
5:19:01 LGBT people are more depressed, suicidal and have STDs
5:20:03 Final thoughts
5:22:36 Updates on future MS content

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