Immigration - Rebutting Lolbertarian Party's take on issues

4 months ago
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https://www.lp.org/issues/immigration/
Generally everyone can agree with this yet, also, what is "peaceful" regarding a person? Is that what matters for citizenship? It's find for tourists, yet not for workers since we want workers to be useful. Does their being in the country have any net positive or net negative effect? Is "peaceful" the most important issue regarding a potential immigrant?

There is not really any principles here except for some fallacy evident in calling illegal immigrants as "undocumented" and then claiming not to support calling them criminals when they broke immigration law yet to be a criminal literally means that you broke the law. So illegal immigrants are illegal because they are criminals.

Immigration also involves standardization of credentials regarding "advanced" degrees (some countries are far better than us in degree accredidation yet some are not; also, not everything has a neat credential attached to it that holds weight of significance). Not exactly sure what kinds of immigration we are talking about, it's just like "hey let's have immigration and some how we will be better on the policy making so, uh, elect us!".

A lot of things we would want immigration procedures to do are not as easy as saying we don't want to. How would you know if someone is violent unless they seriously try to get into the country, through the immigration process (why wouldn't they try to come "undocumented" in such a case?), and we have access to see that we shouldn't take them in? They would be stopped by the visa process in-advance. Hell, that may be why the immigration system is "complex" and appears "broken": we are trying to figure out if a person should or should not be allowed to be able to immigrate here.

Perhaps what we need is to let people come as tourists, kick them out if they overstay their visas more often (or visa-less entry as Americans can do through much of the world), and see if they really would be a good fit in this country. Do they really need to come here to work? Maybe we can get companies to have workers come over on a more scheduled basis or something, which will be able to meet the government's desire to protect national security which is why we have the government at the federal level.

Is the issue with immigration truly on our side? Or is it the 180 other countries in the world that our government has foreign policy regarding, including diplomacy, so as to allow for citizens to transfer between countries? Also, maybe we want the immigrants but the country they are leaving don't want them to immigrate!

What are the real issues with immigration?

I fail to see that it's because we are being "mean" regarding immigrants.

Christ, the Church, instructs us to care for the stranger, as well as orphans and widows.

If someone ends up here, they could be a stranger. But we also make them cease being a stranger by having to come here with a passport or visa already worked out, beforehand, such that it is easier on the stranger when they come here. They aren't strangers, though, anymore if we have an idea of who they are thanks to the immigration system...

Maybe that's the point...

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