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News Conspiracies MARTYR truth-teller PALE HORSE Sacrificed Navy VET RUSH LIMBAUGH DANGEROUS

(2.11.1991)

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here is an interview with author william
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cooper
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so mr cooper are there larger numbers
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of people all the time who are
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receptive to your message and who are
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thinking a little bit more
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deeply and critically about these
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fundamental
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issues of government and politics that
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perhaps they did not give as much
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thought to in the past
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oh yes uh in fact the i never dreamed
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that
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that i would make such impact
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um when i first began
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what i'm doing now which was many years
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ago
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i was lucky if i could travel a thousand
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miles
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and collect three people in somebody's
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living room
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none of whom by the way would help me
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pay for expenses or anything else to sit
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down and listen to what i had to say and
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i did this many times travel all the way
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across the country
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just to talk to two or three or four
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people in somebody's home
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and uh and put all the expenses myself
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and um
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now um i can go to some place like the
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salt dome
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in salt lake city and and fill the place
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up with people who want to come and hear
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what i have to say
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i think the radio broadcast has had a
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lot to do with it my book has certainly
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been the number one
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underground uh book in the in the
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country
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for the last uh eight or nine years and
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continues to be today
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and uh i know that
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that i'm really hitting the mark and i'm
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i'm really making people pay attention
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when when the president of the united
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states william jefferson clinton
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names me in a white house memo which
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rush limbaugh
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read on the air as being the most
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dangerous radio host
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in america to me that was the most
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tremendous compliment that i could ever
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receive was worth more than
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50 million dollars in my estimation and
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uh if i if i don't ever do anything more
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than what i've accomplished
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i certainly have accomplished quite a
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bit in the way of waking up the
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the average american to stop believing
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everything that he's told or taught and
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start questioning
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and and using his own mind for something
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other than
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than to hold up the top of his head and
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i think that's happening i think people
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are beginning to question
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and think and arrive at their own
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conclusions
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today a lot more than they ever have in
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history trusting people is what got us
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in this situation
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and and the concept the whole concept
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that imperfect man
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can rule other imperfect men and it's
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going to turn out all right
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is is the most ludicrous proposition
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that i've ever heard in my life
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i think there are a number of people
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that
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agree with what you say who are aware of
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some of these facts again the question
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to
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ask is given that there may be
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ills and abuses
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on the part of the government today what
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would be
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something that a person interested
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in seeing change could do what sort of
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advice would you give somebody
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who wanted to have an effect
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for the better who would want to
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influence events
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so that we would begin moving towards
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a change there are only two possible
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avenues of change at the present time
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one is civil war which we are heading
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toward
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right now we are rushing toward a civil
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war in this country
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and i foresee that that is probably
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the most reasonable expectation
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that we can see happening not that i
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want it to happen
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not that a civil war is reasonable but
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it's the reasonable conclusion
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after looking at the at the whole
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picture
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the other is that we could somehow
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really educate
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the vast majority of what i call the
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american sheeple
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these are people who are ignorant
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ignorant is not a
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a bad word it just means that they're
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without knowledge
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if we could educate them and get them to
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understand
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that it is more important to stand up
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now and take a personal risk
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and educate other people and say that
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this has all got to stop and
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be able to select our own candidates and
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make sure they get elected no matter
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what the press or the television or
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anybody else
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tells us about them put them in office
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people who will support
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protect and defend the constitution like
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the
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like the liars and the charlatans who
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are in office now
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swear to do when they take their oath of
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office but
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don't at all don't even attempt it
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in fact if you could get the people to
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do that then there
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might be a possibility of a political
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peaceful
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solution but i can tell you right there
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that that's not going to happen
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it's not going to happen in your wildest
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dreams because most
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people spend the first 21 years of their
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life
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trying to get away from daddy and get
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away from home and become responsible
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and
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and have their own responsibility in
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life
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they spend the rest of their life once
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they find out what that really means
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and trying to find a daddy that will
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take care of them and take all the risk
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away from them
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and make sure that they have a job and
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that their diapers are changed and they
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have a bed to sleep in at night and a
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place to play and all of that kind of
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stuff just like
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every other child in the world and
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to stand up and be responsible and take
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a risk
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means that they're not going to find
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that that's why socialism is so
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attractive to the vast
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majority of any people not just
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americans but any people
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it promises that they're going to have a
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daddy again
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who's going to take care of them if
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they'll just give up all their rights
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and all their liberties daddy will take
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care of them
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and so that's what people are looking
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for and you can see it in your daily
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life that's the way they vote
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that's what they want they don't want to
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take personal responsibility they don't
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want to take a risk they're afraid of
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getting on a list i've had people tell
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me to my face
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bill i know all about this stuff but i
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can't help you because i don't want to
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get on anybody's list
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is it different anywhere else than bill
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because this question brings me to
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something i wanted to ask you anyway and
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that is
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in looking over other countries in the
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world
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do you find any other countries with
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social or political models even if it's
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only some aspect of their system
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that you find worth emulating in in
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other countries
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any any other country or countries that
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you think
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go about the political process or the
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social contract
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if you will in a way superior to the
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united states
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uh no i don't as a matter of fact up
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until
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we began to um to
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take this this left turn
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into socialism the united states was the
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uh
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was the great light of the world so to
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speak we were the only
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free people who had ever existed in the
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entire history of humanity
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the we we like to talk about the our
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great heritage from england the english
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were never free they're not free today
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they don't have freedom of speech they
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don't have any of the freedoms that
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we've always
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had and cherished in the history of the
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whole human race
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the only people that have ever lived on
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this planet who have ever truly been
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free
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the ultimate achievement of all
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humankind was to accept
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the individual as a king or queen
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in his or her own right being
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responsible
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and having all of the freedom and
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liberties that they could possibly
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imagine right here in this country
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and we created a government that was
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supposed to have a balance of power
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and was limited strictly limited by the
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constitution
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and only given a very few powers
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uh in order to protect the freedom
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of the common man that's all gone now
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i mean that's like a big you hear these
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politicians in washington today
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talking about how the constitution is an
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outdated document pinned over 200 years
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ago
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by a bunch of dollaring old men who did
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not understand the complexities of the
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modern age
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they won't tell you what you should
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already know is that the document
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is not an outdated old document it is a
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living
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constitution it has within it the means
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for change
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should the people desire that it be
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changed
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but the people don't desire that so they
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just go ahead and throw it in the trash
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can anyway and go about their business
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doing anything that they want to do
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while joe blow on the street doesn't
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even know that it's happening because
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he's never read the document that
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guarantees his freedom
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in his whole life mr cooper given the
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controversial nature of so many of the
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things that you have studied
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with regard to government and the law
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and the abuses thereof tell us a little
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bit
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about how it has affected your personal
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life
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you're a family man with two children
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what kind of
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impact has the work you've done
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had on your family well um
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that's uh that's quite an interesting
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question and that doesn't get
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asked very much but uh it's had
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a tremendous effect if if you want to
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find out how quickly
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um the society can
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turn against one and i'm talking
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seriously here
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stand up and tell the truth about just
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anything
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that you want to stand up and tell the
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truth about it scares the living
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daylights
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out of everyone and so the first thing
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that happens is you find out who your
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friends are
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and who your friends are not because
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there's a great weeding out there
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and it's not anything that you do on
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your part or that i've done on my part
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they just
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disappear and
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you find very quickly that people are
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are afraid to be around you because
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that they can see the government being
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upset about what you're talking about
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and they can see repercussions coming
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and of course they have happened
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and will continue to happen and
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ultimately i i
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i really believe that there will be some
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kind of uh
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of um a terminal point where they decide
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that
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uh they're not just just not gonna put
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up with this pest anymore
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and and that's gonna be the end of me we
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have been
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literally financially in the ditch
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we have found it impossible to get any
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kind of a normal job
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with anyone who knows anything about
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what i do
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uh it's uh it's you can't go to church
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you can't go to cocktail parties because
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everybody else is sitting around talking
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about the weather or
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oh what school did you go to and and
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when you
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when you have done the research and
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arrived at some of the answers
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that that i know to be true now um
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those people become like kindergarten
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children they they're not in the real
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world
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and i can't engage in that kind of a
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conversation so
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uh you really find yourself in another
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world
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that has nothing to do with all of the
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rest of the people who are running
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around
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engaged in their activities that they
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think are so important
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then and to them they really are but to
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me
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they've lost the reality
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of what really is important and they're
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about to lose
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uh their freedom to to even
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discover those things at this point
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i ask you a last question and that is
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how would you like to be seen or
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remembered
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in future years when people look back
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and you think about the
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thrust of your work what is it that you
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would like to be best remembered for
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i think i would like to be remembered
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like paul revere was remembered
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at a time when it was needed and nobody
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else would do it
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i got on my horse and rode through the
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night and said the british are coming
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and uh this time is not the british
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although
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there's an element of the british here
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because england is a socialist country
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i'm sure you
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you know that that's
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all i you know i'm not looking for any
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fame or any fortune you certainly don't
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get rich doing what i'm doing
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and uh infamous is probably the the real
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word
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that describes uh what happens to you as
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far as
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as as public recognition
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in a world where political correctness
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is the theme of the day
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uh you just don't do what i'm doing so
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if anybody wants to remember me
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i would certainly be pleased if they
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just remembered i did what was
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what was the responsible and the right
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thing to do
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at a time when nobody else had the guts
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to do it
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cooper thank you for your time you're
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welcome