Tucker: ‘I’m Advocating to a Return to America of 1993; Is that Really Radical?’

BECK: “Where the sticking point is in America right now is there’s a lot of people on the right and the left that are both saying screw the Constitution, we need a radicalized leader. When, you know, when you look at Orban, I think Orban is great for his country. That’s not our system. I think, you know, Moscow might be great, love to visit. That’s not our system. So I think — I believe you are — you’ve already said this, but I want to make sure it’s very clear and on the record. The only path forward for America is through the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution. Correct?”

Carlson: “Of course. And, by the way, I should just be very, very clear. If I was — I’m like the one person on the planet you don’t need to guess about my motives, I’ll just say them. And if I was advocating for a different form of government, for authoritarianism, for a strongman, I would just say so. I would have no shame in saying that, because I really believe that it’s within my rights to say what I think. If I — I’ve been called a racist. If I was racist, I would just say it. I would just say it, but I’m not. And I’m not advocating for that, I’m advocating to return to America of, say, 1993. How radical — is that really radical? No, I don’t think that’s very radical. In fact, I think we should be demanding it. And if there’s one thing that I will fault Americans for, it’s low expectations. You should not put up with this. You should not allowed them, the governor of Texas should not allow millions of people to cross his border. And I don’t want to hear, you know, the excuses, and I don’t want to hear the excuses for why it’s okay to have tens of thousands of people dying on the street or sleeping on the sidewalk in tents handed to them by the Episcopal Church forever. Like, that’s not acceptable. It’s not okay for my kids to use drugs at the breakfast table, I’m not going to have a debate about it. No is the answer. I’m within my rights as a father to say that. The U.S. government is within its statutory rights as a government to say that. We don’t need more laws. We have the laws. They’re not being enforced on purpose, and to your point, why? And, of course, the reason is because people lose faith in liberal democracy.”

BECK: “Correct.”

Carlson: “And they will welcome a strongman. And that’s exactly what this is about, is the left — and not just the left. I would say the quisling right on Capitol Hill, for whom I just have boundless contempt, they’re in on this as well.”

BECK: “Yes.”

Carlson: “People are just going to give up, they’re not going to vote. They’re going to steal the elections, just as they stole the last one, which they did, sorry. And they’re going to steal the next one, and people are just going to be like, you know, I don’t even care, I just totally give up. This is crazy. Just get the bums off my street, some guy just exposed himself to my daughter, or my nephew just died of a fentanyl OD, make it stop. Make it stop, you can have all the power you want. That is absolutely what they’re going for, and I don’t want that. I want to live in the country we lived in 1993 or 1985, not ancient history, post-Civil Rights Act. We can do that. Let’s do it right now. That’s my point.”