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Episode 1883: Forgiveness From Human Relationships to Divine Trust
"Forgiveness: From Human Relationships to Divine Trust"
St. John Bosco: "Put up willingly with the faults of others if you wish others to put up with yours."
Fr. Jean Baptiste Saint-Jure: "We trust ourselves to a doctor because we suppose he knows his business... Yet we are unwilling to treat God in the same way! It looks as if we do not trust His wisdom and are afraid He cannot do His job properly."
Now who was
Fr. Jean Baptiste Saint-Jure: A Brief Biography
Early Life and Formation:
Born: February 19, 1588, in Metz, France.
Joined: Entered the Society of Jesus (Jesuits) in 1604 at Nancy, France.
Education: Initially taught grammar and philosophy within the Jesuit order.
Life and Work:
Spiritual Guidance: Served as spiritual director for individuals like the Baron of Renty and Mother Jeanne of the Angels, gaining recognition for his wisdom and insights.
Leadership: Held roles as rector of schools in Alençon, Amiens, Orleans, and Paris, demonstrating leadership and administrative skills.
Exceptional Position: Notably served as spiritual director for cloistered Dominican nuns of Paris, an opportunity rarely granted to Jesuits.
Writing: Authored influential spiritual texts like "The Life of Monsieur De Renty" and "Conformity to God's Will Makes Us Happy in This Life as Well as in the Next," impacting French Catholic piety in the 17th century.
Legacy:
Remembered: As a prominent Jesuit spiritual director, writer, and leader within the Catholic Church.
Influence: His writing continues to be valued for its focus on prayer, inner life, and surrender to God's will.
Significance: His comparison of trust in doctors and trust in God remains a powerful spiritual reminder.
Additional Notes:
Died: April 30, 1657, in Paris, France.
His impact extended beyond France, influencing figures like John Wesley in England.
No lets look at these good spiritual Fathers.
Similarities:
Both quotes emphasize the importance of forgiveness and acceptance.
Both acknowledge the difficulty of accepting the flaws of others and the challenges we face in our own lives.
Both quotes can be interpreted as calls for humility and trust.
Differences:
Focus: Bosco's quote focuses on interpersonal relationships, while Saint-Jure's focuses on our relationship with God.
Language: Bosco's quote is more direct and practical, while Saint-Jure's uses an extended metaphor and more emotional language.
Level of acceptance: Bosco encourages tolerance, while Saint-Jure suggests complete surrender and trust in God's actions.
Explore the concept of forgiveness in different contexts: personal relationships, and our connection with something higher.
St. John Bosco dedicated his life to educating and uplifting poor and marginalized youth. He understood the challenges of living in close quarters and dealing with diverse personalities.
Interpretation:
Not simply tolerance: "Putting up" doesn't imply passive acceptance. It suggests active understanding and empathy towards others' flaws, while acknowledging your own.
Golden Rule: Treat others as you want to be treated. If you expect forgiveness and understanding for your imperfections, extend the same to others.
Personal growth: Accepting others' faults encourages introspection and helps identify your own. This paves the way for self-improvement and humility.
Community building: Recognizing and accepting individual flaws fosters stronger, more forgiving relationships within communities.
Additional Points:
Balance: The quote doesn't imply condoning harmful behavior. Healthy boundaries and addressing unacceptable actions are still necessary.
Different levels: Accepting small quirks differs from tolerating major transgressions. It's about finding the right balance based on the situation.
Spiritual dimension: In religious contexts, the quote can relate to accepting God's will and trusting His plan, even when things seem challenging.
Here's more insight into Fr. Jean Baptiste Saint-Jure's statement:
Key Points:
Analogy: He compares our trust in human doctors to our lack of trust in God's actions. We readily accept a doctor's potentially painful interventions because we believe in their expertise and believe they act for our good.
Lack of Trust in God: Saint-Jure suggests we question God's wisdom and ability when things get difficult or don't align with our desires. This stems from fear and limited understanding.
Surrender and Trust: He urges complete surrender to God's will, believing that God sees the bigger picture and has our best interests at heart. Accepting this, even when painful, leads to true peace and fulfillment.
Now go out and convert somebody! Good Day
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