Episode 100. Involuntary Manslaughter: The Conviction of Jennifer Crumbley and Safe Storage Laws

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Episode 100. Involuntary Manslaughter: The Conviction of Jennifer Crumbley, Safe Storage Laws, and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

In this episode, host Alex Ooley, discusses the case of Jennifer Crumbley, who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter for the actions of her son, who killed four people at Oxford High School in Michigan. The case raises questions about the criminal liability of parents for the actions of their children. Alex also explains the different states of mind in criminal cases and the higher burden of proof required in criminal prosecutions. He also discusses the implications of safe storage laws and the importance of personal responsibility in preventing tragedies. The episode concludes with a call to preserve individual freedom and spread the message of liberty.

Takeaways

Parents can be held criminally liable for the actions of their children, as demonstrated in the case of Jennifer Crumley.
Criminal cases require a higher burden of proof and different states of mind must be proven, such as intent or negligence.
Safe storage laws, while well-intentioned, may have unintended consequences and can embolden criminals.
Personal responsibility, including arming teachers, can be an effective deterrent to mass killings.
Preserving individual freedom and spreading the message of liberty is crucial in preventing the erosion of rights.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Case
02:27 Criminal Liability of Parents
03:22 Higher Burden of Proof in Criminal Cases
04:17 Different States of Mind in Criminal Cases
06:42 Criminal Negligence
07:11 Case Against the Parents
08:13 Unusual Case
09:19 Desire to Prevent Mass Killings
10:18 Responsibility of Firearms Dealers and Manufacturers
11:23 Safe Storage Laws
13:42 Critique of Safe Storage Laws
18:53 Importance of Personal Responsibility
19:22 Arming Teachers
21:18 Verdict and Sentencing
29:23 Gross Negligence and Involuntary Manslaughter
32:29 Conclusion

Resources:

Video shows moment Jennifer Crumbley is found guilty of involuntary manslaughter - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFFI_Lps4XU&t=81s

Jennifer Crumbley convicted in Oxford shooting deaths
https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/jennifer-crumbley-convicted-in-deaths-of-high-school-students-killed-by-her-son-in-oxford-high-school-shooting/

Michigan Involuntary Manslaughter Law - FindLaw
https://www.findlaw.com/state/michigan-law/michigan-involuntary-manslaughter-law.html

Is Guilty Verdict for School Shooter's Mom a Precedent or an Outlier? – Bearing Arms
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024/02/07/is-guilty-verdict-for-school-shooters-mom-a-precedent-or-an-outlier-n80241

Model Criminal Jury Instructions - criminal-jury-instructions.pdf
https://www.courts.michigan.gov/4ad42f/siteassets/rules-instructions-administrative-orders/jury-instructions/criminal/current/criminal-jury-instructions.pdf

Why the Case Against Ethan Crumbley's Parents Is So Unusual | TIME
https://time.com/6126647/crumbley-parents-charges/

Mens Rea - A Defendant's Mental State - FindLaw
https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-law-basics/mens-rea-a-defendant-s-mental-state.html

Actus Reus - FindLaw Dictionary of Legal Terms
https://dictionary.findlaw.com/definition/actus-reus.html

Michigan Safe Storage Law
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigans-safe-storage-gun-law-begins-feb-13-what-to-know
https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/safety-injury-prev/firearm-safety/secure-storage-law
https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/-/media/Project/Websites/mdhhs/Safety-and-Injury-Prevention/Firearm-Safety/Firearm-Storage-Penalties.pdf?rev=530dcf33a80445c3845e764ad7b76fb4

John Lott re Safe Storage Laws
https://crimeresearch.org/2021/12/at-real-clear-politics-why-gun-storage-laws-would-do-more-harm-than-good/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/07/why_gun_storage_laws_would_do_more_harm_than_good_146851.html

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#2a
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