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Colonel Douglas Macgregor delved into various pressing geopolitical issues, including IRAN, ISRAEL, RUSSIA, UKRAINE, YEMEN, SAUDI ARABIA and the United States during the interview with Stephen Gardner. The recent attack on a US military base in Jordan, resulting in casualties, prompted reflections on the escalating tensions in the Red Sea region. With Senators Lindsey Graham and John Cornyn advocating for aggressive action against Iran, and Tucker Carlson cautioning against potential repercussions, the debate over military intervention intensifies.Show more

Colonel Douglas Macgregor weighs in on Tucker Carlson's opinion of the war situation and the US military involvement. For more insights and analysis, visit https://ourcountryourchoice.com/

The forthcoming meeting between Presidents Putin and Erdogan in Turkey raises questions about its implications for resolving conflicts, particularly the Ukraine-Russia war. Speculations abound regarding Turkey's role as a mediator and the prospects of easing tensions. Scott Ritter also believes we will see war between US military and Iran. He believes Iran will win as US is depleted from helping Ukraine and Israel.

Reports of Belarus potentially escalating tensions with Ukraine add to the complexity of the situation. The emergence of advanced warfare technologies, such as machine gun-mounted robots in Ukraine, underscores the evolving nature of conflicts and the challenges they pose.

Meanwhile, Finland's alarmist warnings about an impending war with Russia fuel apprehensions about the possibility of broader conflict. The interview also touched on the immigration crisis in Texas, highlighting the clash between state and federal policies and the potential ramifications, including legal battles and heightened political polarization.

Throughout the discussion, Colonel Douglas Macgregor provided insights into these multifaceted geopolitical dynamics, shedding light on the complexities and potential consequences in an increasingly volatile global landscape.

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I have with me today a special guest Colonel Douglas McGregor to talk about all of the different fires going on
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around the globe especially those that affect the United States Colonel McGregor thank you for joining me again
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today sure happy to be here so the the biggest story in the news right now is
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the situation in the Red Sea does not seem to be cooling uh now we've had an
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attack on a US military base in the country of Jordan that resulted in three dead Americans
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and 34 injured what is your assessment of this situation and is the United
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States starting down a path towards war with the Middle East again well it it might as well say the
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Middle East but primarily we're trying to forge a path to war with Iran because
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that's what the Israeli State wants and to be frank with you we have no strategy
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towards the region uh we have no policy what we are essentially are instruments
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of Israeli National policy and we take our instructions from them because there
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we have no interest in supporting this campaign to effectively expel or kill
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all Palestinian Arabs in Gaza and ultimately also on the West Bank and
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that's effectively what is now begun by the Israelis we certainly don't have an interest in a war with hisbah or on
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contrary to what many politicians are telling the American people so I think the biggest problem right now is that
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the mainstream media the financial sector and the government are all 100%
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behind this unconditional support for Israel and they are proz in favor of
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that most Americans really aren't paying attention as we've discussed before I think Americans are rightly focused on
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the border uh they they're definitely seeing that and that's why you're seeing the uh left now under Biden and and in
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general the Washington swamp change its tune they they started say well you know we want to close the border but you know
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we just have to come to a compromise that's a lot of nonsense we all know that and that should have happened years
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ago now people are openly discussing military power on the border well that should have happened years ago as well
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we did that for 100 years from 1840 1846 to 1948 there are reasons for all of that
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but the bottom line is we're no better off so in the meantime it's a case of watch what this hand does
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but don't pay attention to the other hand and now that we've had this attack
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on uh it was actually as I am told designed to hit altom which is a large
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American base inside Syria the Watchtower that was struck and the Americans who were wounded or killed
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were just literally on the other side of the Border in Jordan but that was not
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originally the Target and remember the Jordanian government has approved our presence in in their country the Syrian
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government has not so we are illegally inside Syria and those soldiers sailers
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Airmen and Marines are involved in Iraq and Syria they have no Mission uh except
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to essentially improve security for Israel which is kind of laughable
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because if anybody knows more about what's happening in Syria and Iraq than we do it's the Israelis their intelligence is excellent and then
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secondly a little bit of oil that is squeaking through the system from Turkey
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into Israel is pretty much going to stop Mr erogan has dragged his feet on it but
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very shortly the Israelis will be without any oil or natural gas anyway and we are very very vulnerable and and
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to be blunt if if the Iranians had done this they would have hit us this this is
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this would not have been an accident they have precise tactical and theater ballistic missiles we're dealing with
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Arab militias the hoodies are an Arab militia the the Shiite Arabs in in Iraq
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are part of militias that's what you've got in hisbah all of these people are Arabs and even though they may be
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Shiites they are in solidarity with Arabs in Gaza and as long as we do what we're
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doing in Gaza which is to provide Limitless quantities of supply for the Israelis in terms of ammunition spare
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parts aircraft intelligence even now we have lots of Americans and uniform on the ground in Israel as long as we
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continue to underwrite this uh terrible policy well we're going to be attacked
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by Arabs in the Middle East it's very simple now we made a terrible mistake with the hoodies because we beat our
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chests and said we will punish the hoodies we will defeat the hoodies well the hoodies have turned out to be a lot
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tougher to take on than we imagin which any of us who knew anything about the region knew to begin with that is
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terrible terrain it's very difficult to run around and identify the targets find
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the active missile systems and the fighters and do any damage and these people have been through years of
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warfare with Saudi Arabia and us remember we backed the Sodis this produced a terrible famine in Yen that
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killed hundreds of thousands and did enormous damage these people are hardened to it they're ready to fight
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and fight and fight and they're going to do whatever they can to make us miserable until we change our policy so
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if you want this to stop Americans need to answer the question are we comfortable supporting Israel's policy
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in Gaza if we're comfortable with what they're doing as a nation then that's
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fine the government should make it abundantly clear what we're doing and that means we've got almost a half a million Arabs living inside uh the Gaza
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Strip that have no homes nothing over their heads not enough to eat suffering from all sorts of diseases as a result
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of bad water have no power and uh everyone in Israel is celebrating
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because they want to eliminate these people they see them after all as has being told repeatedly as animals that
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deserve to be expelled expunged exterminated interesting uh are we
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comfortable with that I don't think most Americans are but most Americans are not being told the truth they don't really
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see what's happening so we have no policy we have no foreign policy our
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armed forces are now essentially the Pawns of Israel and whatever Israel's
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Lobby in the United States once and remember the Israeli Lobby has almost
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complete control of everyone on the hill and they also controled the thinking and
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the policymaking but beyond that you know the what happens in the media and
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the media crushes anyone who speaks up and says well perhaps this is not a good idea then you are branded as an
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anti-semite the ad homonym attacks begin if they can they attack your sources of
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income they try to disenfranchise you destroy your bank accounts and so forth
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this this is the way things are played right now in the United States that's why I say this this is not American
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foreign policy this is Israeli foreign policy and that's what's running the
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show yeah um coming back to some American uh foreign policy yesterday uh
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Senator Lindsey Graham and John Corin of Texas called for President Biden to
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direct to to directly attack Iran bomb them into the ground Tucker Carl son
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called them effing lunatics that will get us into an outof control War Tucker
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Carlson also warned the American people that the Biden Administration wants a broader war with Iran uh what are your
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thoughts on Tucker Carlson his comments and then what are your thoughts on Lindsey Graham and John Corin calling
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for the the destruction of Iran well first of all I and many others
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have been warning of the danger of a wider war with Iran that could rapidly become Regional and end up including the
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Russians and the Chinese and potentially others all aligned against us this is
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not news this is a very real danger it's also not news as I pointed out in an
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article that I published in the American conservative a week ago there was two parts one Friday and then Saturday on
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The Perils of American foreign policy and it goes into detail about why we militarily are not prepared for a major
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regional War whether it's fought Eastern Europe in Ukraine or fought in the Middle East or anywhere else our stocks
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are way down they're largely exhausted in many key categories and we have no surge capacity we can't turn to Industry
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and say turn out thousands of missiles and millions of Munitions overnight we don't have that capacity so if we're
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drawn into this thing we will rapidly exhaust our stocks those things are just
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completely ignored because the individuals you mentioned who are obviously benefiting enormously from
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money that comes out of the defense industry as well as other foreign lobbies like the Israeli Lobby they have
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no interest in what happens to us what happens to the American people or what happens to our soldiers if they had any
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interest in the welfare of soldiers Sailors Airmen and Marines they would have demanded the withdrawal of these
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soldiers from Iraq and Syria and uh everywhere else in the region a long
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time ago because there are so few of them they're in isolated bases they're easy targets
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now what's changed recently and this is the most most dangerous aspect of the
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whole thing up until now certainly since 1991 on the ground we have never faced
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formidable opponents opponents that were organized into armies into Air Forces
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into air defenses most have had no Naval power at all what we faced are Loosely
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organized Irregulars militias we call them terrorists because they support
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causes we don't so you always brand your an opponent terrorist you know your
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friends are superheroes men in white hats the people you hate Are
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terrorists these are not Third Rate opponents anymore Iran is a very
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powerful State there are 90 million people living in that country you're talking about a very high level of
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technical expertise they have built tens of thousands of rockets and missiles the
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Israelis will give you the briefings if you ask for it and tell you what very fine quality work they do the high
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quality of their engineers and their capabilities the Iranians can launch enough conventional Warheads on missiles
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to flatten most of Israel that's what people don't seem to understand and they can Target us with great Precision just
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a couple of weeks ago we watched as they killed a mad agent in his house excuse
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me with his family and he was in close proxim to the US
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Embassy US Embassy sustained no damage they also went after others Isis targets
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and these Isis targets were also affiliated with Kurdish interests
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because they were United by hatred of hisbah and Iran so they targeted these
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PL these places and people with enormous effect and accuracy that can be applied against us they can hit us in cutter
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they can hit us in Kuwait they can hit our forces at Sea they can hit us all over the place and we haven't even begun
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to discuss the substantial Hezbollah presence that is in Mexico and for that
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matter there are also islamist elements from the sunniside operating in Mexico
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large numbers of people driven out of Syria and other Arab countries have found a place to settle in Mexico some
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of those came as a result of being refugees but large numbers also came there deliber L this is this is a war
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that will have more than one front against us we have no idea how many of these people have been introduced into
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the United States through our borders we we think we have recently nine million
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illegals but we may have as many as 22 to 30 million in the country so you look
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at the equation and what you have staring you in the face is is the very
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high probability that if we turn this into a regional War by ultimately attack ing Iran or looking for some excuse that
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we can you know present to the American people as justifying the use of force
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we're not only unprepared for it we're going to have to fight on all sorts of levels against all sorts of people and
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we're talking now about kinetic matters but there is also the cyberspace and the
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uh vulnerability of our power grids I mean we could go on and on what about our nuclear power stations all of these
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things fall into that category and I think Americans are being lulled into a false sense of confidence Americans have
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believed for too long that war is something that only happens on someone else's soil oh we we bombed country X
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last week well you know they probably deserved it nobody knows nobody cares
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you always have a third of the electorate that cheers whenever somebody is bombed that's
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dangerous that's the sort of insanity that got Britain into World War I that dragged them into World War I where they
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killed almost 800 million people in from Great Britain that doesn't even include the Imperial forces from overseas the
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the point I'm trying to make is if we go forward as people like Lindsey Graham
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and Senator cornin want we risk war on a scale that we have not seen in this
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country since the Civil War here and abroad I don't think
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anybody wants that and I don't think we need it but then again you know I hold the minor position in Washington because
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right now everybody says absolutely kill and drive those Arabs out and by the way
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I don't support Arab islamist organizations that Advocate the destruction of Israel either you know
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that that's dead wrong I wouldn't support Hamas under any circumstances and simply because I don't think
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millions of Palestinians should be further removed from their homes and driven into Exile or killed makes me an
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agent of Hamas I'm not I want is real to survive and I'm afraid and I've said
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this from the very beginning as soon as the 7 October event occurred and it became clear that the Israelis were only
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moderately interested in the hostages this was a trigger that they longed for
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so that they could begin this process of driving all the people that are Arabs in
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Gaza in the West Bank whether they're Muslims or Christians is irrelevant out of the country now I understand that but
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when I discussed this on previous occasions with him I said be very very careful I don't think you can do this as
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long as the world is watching and the world is watching it's not going to accept this well that's where we are and
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right now Israel and we and the United Kingdom are alone yeah we're isolated gee what a
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surprise yeah wow I I I feel like you know Tucker was heavily engaged in
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supporting Bush and the war in Iraq and then his eyes were open and he realized oh wait a minute we've made a huge
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mistake I think this is why he is saying America be careful you've got you know these effing
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lunatics at at the at at the Capitol Hill pushing us into a war that none of
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us really want I I think he's warning let's not go down that path again well
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we're dealing with the same people that Bill Clinton uh personally did not want to listen to but was trapped into
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listening to that's how we were dragged into Bosnia and then ultimately in the Kosovo air campaign
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we move and we can even go all the way back to the Somali disaster and remember
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Somalia was a place where initially we just went in to feed people ultimately we end up at war with a substantial
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portion of the population it's insane we went in ostensibly for the purpose of
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removing H Saddam Hussein from power we did not announce Our intention to try
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and forcibly democratize millions of Arabs turn them into
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Anglo-Saxons uh at our at our pleasure that was not originally stated on the
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contrary people were told be prepared to leave Iraq as as fast as you got in there now one of the failures that we
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encountered early on both in Afghanistan and in Iraq was the failure to identify
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find and remove Saddam Hussein and his and the other was Osama bin Laden those
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were egregious Military Intelligence failures and then we had to quote unquote stay well that was wonderful for
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the people that dragged us Us in there to begin with under Bush and then subsequently kept us there for how long
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for years for more than a decade we eventually left we left in the middle of the night from Iraq because had we left
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during the day we'd have been shot to Pieces so we left at night without telling anybody but then we went back in
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using the excuse of fighting Isis but most of the fighting against Isis was done by Iranians and the Shiite militias
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that the Iranians trained and armed and the Russian iians they did most of the damage the Turks and many of the other
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Arabs in the region were privately sympathetic to Isis they still are but
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they keep their mouth shut they they backed off but you're never going to completely eliminate these islamists on
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the Sunni side it's it's an impossibility you're always going to have some residual presence from those
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people or of those people and the point is that's not why we're in Iraq or Syria right now we're in there as I said
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before po ostensibly for the purpose of adding to Israel's security I don't think we have I think that we're simply
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out there as targets what we can do and should do do for Israel if we're friends and I think
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we are is tell them that this has to stop because the greatest danger right
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now is that this proceeds becomes a full-fledged War and the missile
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arsenals that the Iranians have will be launched against Israel and ultimately
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flatten the Place remember Israel's relatively small there isn't much strategic depth we all understand that
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and we can't stop those missiles now the Israelis respond well we'll use a nuclear weapon I think if the Israelis
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were to use a nuclear weapon they would have the entire world breathing down their necks and I think it would be
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catastrophic for Israel so the easy solution which is the last one that we
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will adopt is to tell Mr Netanyahu we will not support support you until you
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halt completely 100% your operations in Gaza now if that makes me an anti-semite
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God preserve us from the people who claim they are Israeli Champions because they are taking Israel down the path
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into hell from which Israel may not ever come back yeah wow golly okay speaking
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of the Turks and the Russians um I read today that the Kremlin announced
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President Vladimir Putin will travel to Turkey next month to meet with president uh Eran um do you think the main purpose
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of this is to have a a NATO Nation that's typically sympathetic towards
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Russia um host uh talks on how to end the Russia Ukraine War uh is turkey
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being seen as a Switzerland or what do you think is going on there no I don't think anybody views turkey as a as
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Switzerland nobody sees Switzerland for unfortunately as they once did I think Switzerland surrendered its neutrality
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and it cast its lot with the EU and NATO uh I think Mr erdoan who is nothing
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if not extraordinarily smart is simply taking advantage of of an obvious opportunity the Turks are effectively a
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paper Ally when it comes to Nato they stay in because that gives them some
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degree of influence over NATO and it gives them a Channel of communications with us again no one in the region
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including Iran wants to go to war with us they would all prefer to avoid that but the Turks have also been bribed
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recently uh remember the Turks invested in Russian air defense systems instead
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of Ron's Patriot system when they did that we sanctioned them and said they
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could not participate in the F-35 program and then we said we would not honor any further uh deals including a
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high-tech aircraft like the F-16 we've suddenly lifted sanctions and we're now
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sending f-16s to Turkey turkey well we're bribing the Turks to stay out of
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the Israeli Muslim War that's spreading across the region I think it may help for a short time but it's not going to
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change things in the long run and secondly you now have the Turks within the framework of this new NATO exercise
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that's underway at Sea cooperating with the French navy and of course everyone is laughing uproariously in Turkey
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because the Turks and the French hate each other passionately so whatever cooperation is it's grudging I guess if
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the Turks were given the option they'd rather sink the French Fleet so the the
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bottom line is all of this is flimsy facade likee nonsense NATO is Kos Putin
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didn't kill it we killed it when we dragged it into this proxy war that made no sense and and then gave Russia the
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opportunity to demonstrate that it has the capacity to act like a great power
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we never had a chance against a a nation that was effectively self-sufficient Russia is now more cohesive stronger as
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a nation state than perhaps it's been in decades certainly not since zarus times
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we we've blown it we we made mistake after mistake after mistake and that's
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why the next mistake is let's escalate just as I fear in Israel the Israeli
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government is going to say well we'll take a brether right now on Gaza take a temporary breather we'll turn on hisbah
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and we'll keep working hard to make life miserable for the Palestinians on the West Bank well the war with Hezbollah if
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Israel launches it is not going to go well Hezbollah is infinitely more
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sophisticated and capable than Hamas and most of us are still in a State of Shock that Hamas performed so brilliantly
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against the Israeli Defense Force that's going to make things worse and from there it's a short step to war with Iran
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and as much as the Iranians and the Turks dislike each other they share share the same broader interest in the
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Muslim World which is to deal decisively with this dangerous State called Israel
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which from their vantage point is disruptive destabilizing and frankly very very
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dangerous we don't see it that way because we don't see ourselves logically or objectively either if we go somewhere
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and bomb we're righteous and whomever we bombed is the enemy it's the same
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mentality you know but that's not the way the the Muslims uh in in the Middle East see it and remember and this is
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something else that has never mentioned uh the provocation the Israeli
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provocation that went on in the aloa mosque shortly before the alaxa flood
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and alaxa mosque is the third holiest place in Islam whether or not you like Islam whether or not you approve of it
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doesn't matter those are facts so now we're dealing with more than a billion is
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Muslims who are enraged at Israel enraged at the United States and
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increasingly enraged at the United Kingdom where is this going to take us
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Steve where are we headed we're steering ourselves up to the edge of an abyss
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we're going to go over the waterfall and into disaster yeah no that so yeah we have
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this hot bed going on leading towards War we also I wanted to get your thoughts on this because um I I have um
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people like Gerald salente from the Trends Journal on and and he says things like you know we're already in World War
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you think that they just start overnight no they slowly build um just this morning I was reading that Ukraine is
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telling their citizens bellus is about to attack us be ready to be attacked by
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Belarus they're also saying Hungary and Romania are about to come take back
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Western Ukraine and then Finland is telling their people Russia's about to
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attack us and if they do bellarus will jump in so like there's all these rumors
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of wars going on and it like doesn't that just put everyone on pins and needles and and that's can what can
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really light the fire of a a third world war well first that's the Playbook if
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you're a neoconservative and the neocons are driving the train they're part of the larger globalist Elite that wants to
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transform us into sedated sheep you know they they want to degrade the concept of
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a human being with a with a living soul and adopt the atheistic uh sort of
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materialistic approach to dealing with people as fun fungible products or Commodities things that are meaningless
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in and of themselves that can be employed as they see fit this kind of trotskyite logic and thinking was the
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origin behind the common turn and we've become a kind of 21st Century version of
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the same thing no you're absolutely right we we are we are sewing the the
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seeds of Discord everywhere we possibly can now can all of these come together
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and result in a global catastrophe I suppose it's possible it's never impossible but there are a few
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differences that need to be noted in 1914 when you went when we saw the first
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world war breakout all of the major participants were already primed for
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some sort of conflict they all underestimated its dangers and its destructiveness but they were all ready
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to pounce they were all already in the launch mode it didn't take much to cause
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it in fact gabilo PRP the man that killed the arch duuk said after he was
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captured even if I had never been there and never shot the arch duuk eventually
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this war was going to happen well there's some truth to that but what you have is the Slow Burn today that that
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takes months and years versus the month or so that elapse between 28 June and
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the end of July 1 two 3 4 August in other words everyone did not instantly
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pull the trigger it took a succession of events well take that same sort of
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choreography and apply it to the world today we're not going to see World War
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II break out this week or next week it's going to take a few months I think by
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April May time frame all the pieces will be in place and whoever is not involved
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in the region or externally will become involved remember Russia is closely
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aligned with Iran the Russians are not going to allow Iran to be destroyed by
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the way if Turkey entered this fight the Russians would not allow turkey to be
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destroyed the the interesting thing is that Russia and China seem to be very
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concerned about preserving the international National system we seem hellbent to destroy it and yet we're the
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people that talk about you know the rule-based order what rules whatever we
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say is the rule whatever we say you do that's all it's all hypocritical nonsense it's meaningless nonsense it's
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a facade we're not even enforcing our own laws inside the United States we're
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rewarding criminals for their criminal Behavior we're putting policemen in jail
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policemen are afraid to enfor Force the law we won't defend our borders we now
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have a president who wants to commit Federal forces against Texas and anyone else that challenges the right of his
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party his administration the swamp just put it all together to open our borders
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and flood us with millions of people that we did not invite we can't use we
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can't assimilate we can't put to work and everybody talks about well our
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economy is growing it's government spending we are not growing our economy
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is weak that's the point and our financial position has never been more
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fragile and it's only a matter of time until the world holds a fire sale on our
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treasuries look we are going to take $300 billion doll in assets that are
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Russian and illegally seize those and turn those monies or assets over to
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Ukraine this criminal regime in KF that's our puppet led by
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zalinski now let's stop and think about that if you watch this if you're India
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if you're China if you're Saudi Arabia pick your pick your country Brazil uh
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Argentina anywhere why would you want to hold us
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treasuries how do you know the rug's not going to be pulled out from under you the way we are pulling it out from under
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r Russia they're going to start offloading our treasuries and remember
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most of these were purchased when they were at z% interest so these things are of very little value to them anymore
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it's a losing proposition but that cascading effect overseas is also going
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to be failed here because our banks own the same toxic treasuries that are now
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have no real value they are a burden not an asset but they can't sell them what happens to us we're we're just
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walking into a giant bear trap that's the point yeah oh gosh now you make a
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great point you may you made me think of something that uh Stephen Arvy once said you know he he said oh you know G Jesus
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has this example of you leave the 99 to go after the one but he said you can also flip that around if the 99 see you
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mistreating the one they lose trust in the shepherd right and so what you're saying is you know if they see America
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United United States steal this money from Russia and then give it away to a corrupt Nation then these other nations
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go wait a minute what if they did this to us uh let let's get out of their paper let's get out of their assets um
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like you say that that could create a huge Firestorm uh you know financially for us
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here in here in the United States um final question I I appreciate you coming on um what are what are your thoughts on
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this situation at the border we have Governor Abbott who's saying I have the right to defend my state I
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have the right to keep my people safe we are you know the the biggest loading
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zone for illegal immigrants coming into the country I'm I want these other
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National Guards coming in let's protect this and now you have the federal government saying no absolutely not tear
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down the barb wire let them in process them faster uh and and but then at the
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same time giving lip service saying we we might need to close the Border immigration's out of control does that
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does all of the the positive talking points out of the Biden administr is that all just to get reelected like what
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are your thoughts on this situation yes it's meaningless okay just just
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ignore it uh you know if it were flatulence it wouldn't stink up a broom closet just ignore
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it what are we seeing happen well we're seeing something very tragic National
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Guardsman just like soldiers in the regular army are all sworn to uphold the
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Constitution and to protect the American people and we're actually talking about
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a situation where conceivably this President could order Federal forces to
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intervene against Guardsman on the border with Texas in order to open the
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border to Millions more people about whom we know nothing and many of whom
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probably present a clear and present danger to our country and to our society what is
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wrong this is this is not something that the US Army and the National Guard
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should have to confront the these people serve the same flag you know it's no surprise that
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soldiers being interviewed these are regular army soldiers at various Army posts including Fort Hood which is now
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Fort cavaso are saying I'm not going to do it you know I agree with the National
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Guard we should protect the country some of them have said well I'll I'll go over to the guard well that's punishable
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under the uniform code of military Justice it would be very sad if something like that happened and we were
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Prosecuting soldiers who have sworn to protect the country for for not
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committing treason because arguably when you look at what this Administration has
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being done it looks increasingly a lot like treason why would you subject your your
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country to this it doesn't make any sense why would you subject your people to this I was talking to some some
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people recently that had lost their jobs you know it's a bad economy but in some cases these people had lost their jobs
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because their jobs were then had gone to illegals well gee what a surprise the
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illegal will work for less and then we have to listen to people working for the New York Times or the Washington Post or
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the Wall Street Journal pour buckets of filt and abuse all over American citizens to say well gee we should be
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grateful for all these illegals they're better people they'll work Americans won't well Americans want a living wage
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don't they deserve it yeah oh
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gosh lots of uh lots of problems you know I uh I I hope they all work out the
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the one that has me nervous you know is uh I can't imagine being in the military where I go okay wait a minute I've I've
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sworn an oath to the Constitution I love my country I will give blood for this
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flag and then the the you know the the chief commander is saying to go is
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giving an order that feels like it's against the Constitution that it feels like it's against protecting the United
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States I mean I can't imagine the mental the mental game that is going on in people's minds right now as they are
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potentially sent against their own brothers and sisters in Texas well no that no responsible
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commanderin-chief would do that to soldiers and Guardsmen it's out of the question that's why I'm
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saying no Soldier Guardsman should ever have to confront this issue that this is something that should have been sorted
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out a long time ago in Washington DC but unfortunately the American people are an
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afterthought and oh by the way we need to bomb Iran insane makes no sense whatsoever
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yeah no I I agree uh people like you and others uh you're
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coming together under our country our choice to help educate people on values
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the Constitution uh love for the country love for family and freedom uh is our
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country our choice.com the best place for me to to push some traffic so they
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can learn the organization well we're not so much about educating although hopefully we we will do some that we
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think large numbers of Americans understand what you and I have been discussing we want them to join us we
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want other likeminded organizations to join us we will give them room on our platform we're building a media platform
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as well as building the membership in our organization which we regard as a movement which we think can become the
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Third Way in American politics in other words conceivably over the long term it can become the foundation for a third
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party we badly need an American National Party the Democrats and Republicans
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don't qualify in that category that's the problem yeah okay well I'll push
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I'll push uh people down uh through that link um I appreciate you coming on I know your time is valuable thank you for
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all of your uh Insight all the research you do to keep us up to date on so many
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different so many different battles I mean it's it's insane the amount of information uh that they're putting out
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there but thank you and I I hope you have a great rest of your day hey thank you too Steve appreciate it bye-bye

SOURCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9l7-JyXPp4

Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.) is a senior fellow with The American Conservative, the former advisor to the Secretary of Defense in the Trump administration, a decorated combat veteran, and the author of five books.
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