We must first obey the rules before learning when to break them

Daniele Bolelli is a philosopher, best-selling author, podcaster, and martial artist. He’s the host of the Drunken Taoist and History on Fire podcasts, and the author of several books, including On the Warrior’s Path, Not Afraid, and Create Your Own Religion.

Fred Pinto is a technology lawyer, entrepreneur, writer and host of the Fred Pinto Podcast.

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