MP Andrew Bridgen Excess Deaths -Adjournment Debate in the House of Commons - Oct 20, 2023
Oct 20, 2023
The first Debate on excess deaths anywhere in the world. This was the first time, a government minister anywhere in the world answered concerns about the global problem of excess deaths
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Andrew
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bridon thank you Mr Deputy speaker we've
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experienced more excess deaths since
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July 2021 in the whole of
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2020 unlike the pandemic however these
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deaths are not dist proportionately of
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the old in other words the excessive
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deaths are striking down people in the
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prime of life but no one seems to care I
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fear history will not judge this house
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kindly we're still in a country
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supposedly committed to free and Frank
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exchange of views it appears that no one
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cares that no one cares well I care Mr
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Deputy speaker and I credit those
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members here in attendance today who
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also care and I'd also like to thank the
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honorable member for Lincoln for his
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support and I'm sorry that he couldn't
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attend today's debate it's taken a lot
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of effort and more than 20 rejections to
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be allowed to raise this topic but at
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last we're here to discuss the number of
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people dying nothing could be more
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serious numerous countries are currently
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gripped in a period of unexpected
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mortality and no one wants to talk about
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it it's quite normal for death numbers
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to fluctuate up and down by chance alone
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but what we're seeing here is a pattern
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repeated across countries and the rise
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has not let up will he give I'll give
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way to my honorable gentleman I'm I'm
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very grateful and can I commend him for
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his the tenacious way he's he's battle
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on this particular um issue I I
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certainly admire him for that I just
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wondered where where we found the media
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was in all of this because of course
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during the coid pandemic every day the
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media particularly the BBC couldn't wait
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to tell us how many people had died in
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that particular day without any context
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of those figures whatsoever but they
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seem to have gone strangely quiet uh
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over these excess deaths
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now gentleman for his intervention he is
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absolutely right the media have let the
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British public down badly there will be
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a full press pack going out to all media
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Outlets follow following my speech with
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all the evidence to back up all the
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claims are made in that speech but I
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don't doubt there'll be no mention of it
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in the mainstream
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media you might think that a debate
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about excess death is going to be full
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of numbers this speech does not have
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that many numbers because most of the
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important numbers have been kept hidden
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other data has been oddly presented in a
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distorted way and concern people seeking
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to highlight important findings and ask
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questions have found themselves
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inexplicably under attack before
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debating excess debts it's important to
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understand how excess death is
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determined to understand if there is an
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excess by definition you need to
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estimate how many deaths it would have
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been expected the organization of
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economic cooperation development used
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2015 to 2019 as a Baseline and the
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government's office of health dispari is
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an improvement uses 2015 to 2019
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Baseline modeled to allow for AG in and
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I've used that data here unforgivably
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the office of national statistics have
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included deaths in 2021 as part of their
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Baseline calculation for expected deaths
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as if there was anything normal about
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the deaths in
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2021 by exaggerating the number of
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deaths expected the number of excess can
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be minimized why would the on want to do
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that there's just too much that we don't
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know and it's not good enough Mr Deputy
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speaker the on published promptly each
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week the number of deaths that were
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registered and while this is commendable
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it's not the data point that really
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matters there's a total failure to
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collect never mind publish data on
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deaths that are referred for
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investigation to the coroner why does
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this matter a referral means that it can
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be many months and given the backlog
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many years before a death is formally
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registered needing to investigate the
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cause of a death is fair enough failing
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to record when the death happen
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is not because of this problem we
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actually have no idea how many people
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actually died in 2021 even now the
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problem is greatest for the younger age
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groups where there's a higher proportion
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of deaths are investigated this date of
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failure is unacceptable it must change
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there's nothing in a coroners report
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that can bring anyone back from the dead
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and those deaths should be reported the
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youngest age groups are important not
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only because they should have their
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whole lives ahead of them
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if there is a new cause of excess
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mortality across the board it would not
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be noticed so much in the older cohorts
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because the extra deaths would be
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drowned out amongst the expected deaths
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however in the youngest cohorts that is
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not the case there were nearly two extra
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deaths a day in the second half of 2021
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among 15 to 19y old males but
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potentially even more if those referred
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to the coroner were fully included in a
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judicial review of the decision to
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vaccinate yet younger children the on
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refused in court to give anonymized
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details about these deaths they admitted
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that the data they were withholding was
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statistically significant and I quote
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they said the on recognizes that more
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work could be undertaken to examine the
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mortality rates of young people in 2021
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and intends to do so once more reliable
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data are
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available how many more extra deaths in
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15 to 19 year olds would it take to
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trigger such work surely the on should
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be desperately Keen to investigate
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deaths in young men why else have an
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independent body charged with examining
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mortality data surely the on has a
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responsibility to collect data from the
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coroners to produce timely
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information let's move on to old people
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because most deaths in the old are
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registered promptly and we do have a
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better feel for how many older people
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are dying deaths from dementia and
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Alzheimer's show what we ought to expect
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there was a period of high mortality
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coinciding with coid and lockdowns but
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ever since there have been fewer deaths
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than expected after a period of high
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mortality we expect and historically
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have seen a period of low mortality
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because those who have sadly died cannot
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die again those whose deaths were
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slightly premature because of coid and
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lockdowns died earlier than the
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otherwise would have this principle
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should hold true for every cause of
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death and every age group but that's not
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what we're seeing
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even for the over 85y olds according to
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the office of Health Improvement and
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disparities there were 8,000 excess
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deaths 4% above the expected levels for
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the 12 months starting in July 2020 that
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includes all of the Autumn 2020 wave of
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coid when we had tearing the second
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lockdown and it includes all of the
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first coid
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winter however for the year starting
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July
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2022 there have been over 18,000 excess
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deaths in this age group 9% above
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expected levels more than twice as many
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in a period when there should have been
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a deficit and when deaths from diseases
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previously associated with old age were
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actually fewer than
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expected Mr Deputy speaker I've raised
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my concerns around ng1 163 and the use
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of medlam and morphing which may have
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caused and may still be causing
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premature deaths in the vulnerable but
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that is uh sadly a debate for another
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day there were just over 14,000 excess
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deaths in the under 65 year olds before
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vaccination from April 2020 to the end
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of March 2021 however since that time
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there's been over 21,000 excess deaths
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ignoring the registration delay problem
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the majority 58% of these deaths were
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not attributed to coid we turned Society
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upside down before vaccination for fear
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of excess deaths from coid today we have
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substantially more excessed deaths and
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in younger people and there's complete
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and Eerie silence Mr deputy speaker the
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evidence is unequivocal there was a
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clear stepwise increase in mortality
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following the vaccine rollout there was
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a reprieve in the winter of 2021 22
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because there were fewer than expected
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respiratory deaths but otherwise the
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excess has been incessantly at this high
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level ambulance data for England
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provides another clue ambulance calls
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for life-threatening emergencies will
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running at a steady 2,000 calls per day
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until the vaccine roll out from then it
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Rose to 2,500 daily and calls have
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stayed at this level since the
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surveillance systems designed to spot a
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safety problem have all flashed red but
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no one's looking claims for personal
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Independence payments for people who've
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developed a disability and cannot work
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rocketed with the vaccine roll out and
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it's continued to rise ever since the
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same was seen in the USA also started
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with a vaccine rooll that not with coid
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a study to determine the vaccination
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status of a sample of such payments
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would be relatively quick and
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inexpensive to perform yet nobody seems
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interested in ascertaining this Vital
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Information officials have chosen to
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turn a blind eye to this disturbing
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irrefutable and frightening data much
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like Nelson did but for for far less
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honorable reasons he would be ashamed of
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us Mr Deputy speaker furthermore data
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that has been used to sing the Praises
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of the vaccines is deeply flawed only
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one coid related death was prevented in
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each of the initial major trials that
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led to authorization of the vaccines and
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that is taking their data entirely at
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face value whereas a growing number of
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inconsistencies and anomalies suggest we
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ought not to do this extrapolating from
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that means that between 15,000 and
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20,000 people have to be injected to
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prevent a single death from coid to
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prevent a single coid hospitalization
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over 1500 people needed to be injected
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the the trial data showed that one in
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800 injected people had a serious
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adverse event meaning they were
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hospitalized or had a lifechanging or
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life-threatening condition the risk of
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this was twice as high as a chance of
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preventing a coid hospitalization we're
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harming 1 in 800 people to supposedly
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save one in 20,000 this is
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madness the strongest claims have too
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often been based on modeling carried out
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on the basis of flawed assumptions where
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observational Studies have been carried
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out researchers will correct for age and
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comorbidities to make the vaccines look
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better however Mr Deputy speaker they
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never correct for socioeconomic or
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ethnic differences that would make the
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vaccines look worse this matters for
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example claims of high mortality in less
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vaccinated regions in the United States
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took no account of the fact that this
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was the case before the vaccines were
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rolled
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out that is why studies that claim to
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show the vaccines prevented coid deaths
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also showed a are marked effective than
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preventing non-co deaths the prevention
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of non-co deaths is always a statistical
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illusion and claims of prevented coid
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deaths should not be assumed when that
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illusion has not been corrected for and
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when it is corrected for the claims of
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efficacy for the vaccines vanish with it
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co disproportionately killed people from
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ethnic minorities and lower
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socioeconomic
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groups but during the 2020 during the
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pandemic the death among the most
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deprived were up by
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23% compared to 17% for the least
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deprived however since 2022 the pattern
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has reversed with 5% excess mortality
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amongst the most deprived compared to 7%
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among the least deprived these deaths
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are being caused by something different
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in 2020 the excess was highest in the
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oldest cohorts and there were fewer than
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expected deaths amongst the younger age
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groups but since 2022 the 50 to 64 year
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old cohort has had the highest excess
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mortality even the youngest age groups
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are now seeing substantial excess with a
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9% excess in the under 50s since 2022
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compared to 5% now in the over 75
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group despite London being a younger
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region the excess in London is only 3%
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whereas it's higher in every more
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heavily vaccinated region of the UK and
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it should be noted Mr Deputy speaker
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that London is famously the least
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vaccinated region in the UK by some
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margin studies comparing regions on a
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larger scale show the same thing there
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are studies from the Netherlands Germany
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and the whole world each showing that
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the highest mortality after vaccination
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was seen in the most heavily vaccinated
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regions so we need to ask what are
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people dying of since 2022 there has
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been 11% excess in emic heart disease
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deaths and a six 15% excess in heart
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failure deaths in meantime cancer deaths
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only 1% above expected levels which is
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further Evidence this is not simply some
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other factor that affects deaths ac
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across the boards such as a failing to
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account for an aging population or a
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failing nhhs in fact the excess itself
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has a seasonality with a peak in the
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winter months the fact it returns to
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Baseline levels in summer is a further
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indication that this is not due to some
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statistical error or an aging population
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alone Dr CLA Craig from the Heart Group
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first highlighted a stepwise increase in
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Cardiac Arrest calls after the vaccine
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roll out in May 2021 and Hart have
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repeatedly raised concerns about the
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increase in cardiac deaths and they have
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every reason to be
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concerned four participants in the
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vaccine group of the fiser trial died
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from Cardiac Arrest compared to only one
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in the placebo group overall there were
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21 deaths in the vaccine group up to
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March 2021 compared to 7 in the placeo
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group and there are serious anomalies
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about the reporting of the deaths within
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this trial with the deaths in the uh
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vaccine group taking much longer to
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report than those in the placebo group
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and that's highly suggested Mr Deputy
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speaker of a significant bias in what
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was supposed to be a blinded trial an
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Israeli study clearly showed an increase
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in cardiac Hospital attendances among 18
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to 39 year olds that correlated with
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vaccination not with coid there have now
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been several postmortem studies
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demonstrating a causal link between
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vaccination and coronary artery disease
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leading to death up to four months after
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the last
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dose and we need to remember that the
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safety trial was cut short to only 2
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months so there's no evidence of any
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vaccine safety beyond that point the
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decision to unblind the trials after two
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months and vaccinate the placebo group
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is nothing less than a public health
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Scandal everyone involved failed in
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their duty to the truth but no one cares
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Mr Deputy speaker the one place that can
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help us understand exactly what caused
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this is Australia Australia had almost
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no coid when vaccines were first
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introduced making them the perfect
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control group the state of South
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Australia had only a thousand cases of
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coid across its whole population by
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December 2021 before Omicron arrived
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what was the impact of vaccination there
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for 15 to 44 year olds there were was
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historically 1300 emergency cardiac
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presentations a month with vaccine
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rollout in the under 50s this rocketed
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to
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2,172 cases in November 2021 in this age
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group alone a 67% more than usual
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overall there were
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17,900 South Australians who had a
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cardiac emergency in
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2021 compared to only
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13,250 in 2018 a 35%
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increase it is clearly the vaccine that
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must be the number one suspect in this
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and it cannot be dismissed as just a
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coincidence Australian mortality overall
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has increased from early 20121 and the
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increase is due to cardiac deaths these
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excess deaths are not due to an aging
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population because there are fewer
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deaths in the diseases of old age these
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deaths are not an effect of Co because
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they've happened in places where Co have
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not reached and they're not due to low
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Statin prescriptions or undertreated
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hypertension as Chris witty would
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suggest because prescriptions did not
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change and in any effect would have
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taken many years and been very small the
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prime suspect must be something that was
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introduced to the population as a whole
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something novel The Prime hypothesis
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must be the experimental Co 19 vaccines
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the on published a data set of deaths by
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vacc by vaccinated and unvaccinated at
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first glance it appears to show that the
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vaccines are safe and effective however
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there were several huge problems with
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how they presented that data one was
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that for the first 3 we period after
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injection the on claimed there are only
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a tiny number of deaths the number the
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on would normally predict to occur in a
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single week where were the deaths from
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the usual causes when this was raised
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the on claimed that the sickest people
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did not get vaccinated and therefore
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people were uh taking the vaccination
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were were self- selecting for those
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least likely to die not only is this not
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the case in the real world with even
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even hospices heavily vaccinating their
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residents but the 's own data showed
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that the proportion of sickest people
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was equal in the vaccinated and
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unvaccinated groups this inevitably
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raises serious questions about the ons's
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data presentation there were so many
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problems with the methodology used by
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the on that the statistics regulator
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agreed that the on data could not be
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used to assess vaccine efficacy or
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safety that tells you something about
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the on consequently Hart asked the UK
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Health Security Agency to provide the
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data
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it they had on people who had died and
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therefore needed to be removed from
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their vaccination data set this request
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has been repeatedly refused with excuses
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given including the false claim that
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anonymizing this data will be aced
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creating it even though there is case
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law that anonymization is not considered
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creation of new data Mr Deputy speaker I
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believe if this data was released it
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would be damning some
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claim that so many lives have been saved
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by mass vaccination that any amount of
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harm suffering and death caused by the
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vaccines is a price worth paying they're
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delusional Mr Deputy speaker the play
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with 20 million lives sa is based on now
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discredited models which assume that
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coid waves do not Peak without
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intervention there have been numerous
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waves globally that now demonstrate that
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is not the case and it was also based on
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there having been more than half a
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million lives saved in the UK that's
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more than the worst case scenario
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predicted uh at the beginning of the
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pandemic for the claim to have been true
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the rate of which coid killed people
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would have to have taken off
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dramatically at the beginning of 2021
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with the in the absence of vaccination
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this is ludicrous and it Bears no
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relationship to the truth in the real
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world Australia New Zealand and South
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Korea had a mortality rate of 400 deaths
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per million up to the summer of
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2022 after they were first hit with
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Omicron so how does that compare with
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the Wuhan strain France and Europe as a
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whole had a mortality rate of under 400
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deaths per million up to the summer of
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2020 Australia New Zealand and South
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Korea were all heavily vaccinated before
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infection so tell me where where was the
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benefit the UK had just over 800 deaths
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per million up to the summer of 2020 so
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twice as much but we know that Omicron
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is half as deadly as the Wuhan variant
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the death rates per million are the same
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before and after vaccination so where
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was the benefits of vaccination The
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Regulators have failed in their duty to
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protect the public they've allowed these
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novel products to skip crucial safety
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testing by letting them be described as
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vaccines theyve failed to insist on
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safety testing being done in the years
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since the first temporary emergency
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authorization even now no one can tell
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you how much Spike protein is produced
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on vaccination and for how long yet
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another example of where there is no
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data for me to share with the house and
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when it comes to properly recording
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deaths due to vaccination the system's
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broken not a single doctor reg death
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from a rare brain brain pot before docks
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in Scandinavia forced the issue and the
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MH ackn the problem only then did these
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deaths start to be certified by doctors
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in the UK it turns out that doctors were
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waiting for permission from the
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regulator and The Regulators waiting to
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be alerted by the doctors this is a
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lethal circularity furthermore coroners
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have written regulation 28 reports
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highlighting deaths from vaccination to
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prevent further deaths yet the MH said
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in a response to an foi that they had
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not received any of them the system we
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have in place is clearly not functioning
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to protect the public The Regulators
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also missed the fact that the fiser
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trial in the fiser trial the vaccine was
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made for the trial participants in a
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highly controlled environment in stark
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contrast to the manufacturing process
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used for the public rollout which was
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based on a completely different
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technology and just only just over 200
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participants were given the same product
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that was given to the public but not
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only was the data from these people
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never compared to those in the trial for
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efficacy and safety but the MH have
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admitted that they dropped the
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requirement to provide the data
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that means there was never a trial on
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the fisa product that was actually
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rolled out to the public and that
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product has never been compared to the
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product that was actually
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trial the vaccine mass production
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processes use Vats of eera coli and
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present a risk of contamination with DNA
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from the bacteria as well as bacterial
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cell walls which can cause dangerous
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reactions this is not theoretical Mr
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Deputy speaker this is now sound
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evidence that's been replicated by
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several Labs AC across the world and the
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MRNA vaccines uh were contaminated by
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DNA which far exceeded the usual
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permissible levels given that this DNA
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is enclosed in lipid nanoparticle
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delivery system and it's it's arguable
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that even the permissible levels have
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been far too high these lipid
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nanoparticles are known to enter every
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organ of the body as well as this
22:18
potentially causing some of the acute
22:20
adverse reactions seen there is a
22:22
serious risk that this foreign bacterial
22:24
DNA inserting itself into human DNA and
22:28
will anybody investigate no they won't
22:30
will he I'll give away on that
22:32
point conscious that time is tight I I I
22:36
uh recognize that honorable gentleman is
22:38
making a very very powerful case does he
22:40
agree with me that the government should
22:41
be looking at this properly and should
22:43
commissioner review Into the excess test
22:46
partly so that we can reassure our
22:47
constituents that the case he's making
22:49
is not in fact valid and that the
22:52
vaccines have no cause uh Behind These
22:55
excess
22:56
deaths I Thank The Honorable gentle
22:58
support on this topic and of course that
23:00
is what exactly any responsible
23:02
government should do I wrote to the
23:04
Prime Minister on the 7th of August 202
23:06
through with all the evidence of this
23:07
but sadly Mr Deputy speaker I I still
23:10
await a response what will it state to
23:12
take to stop these products the complete
23:14
failure to stop infection was not enough
23:16
and we all know plenty of vaccinated
23:18
people have caught and spread coid the
23:20
mutation of the virus to a weaker
23:21
variant Omicron that that that wasn't
23:24
enough the increasing evidence of the
23:26
serious harms to those of us that were
23:29
vaccinated that's not enough and now the
23:31
cardiac deaths and the deaths of young
23:33
people is apparently not enough either
23:35
it's high time these experimental
23:36
vaccines were suspended and a full
23:38
investigation into the harms they've
23:39
caused initiated history will be a harsh
23:41
judge if we don't start using
23:44
evidence-based medicine we need to
23:45
return to basic science basic ethics
23:47
immediately which means listening to all
23:49
voices and investigating all concerns in
23:52
conclusion Mr Deputy speaker the
23:54
experimental Co 19 vaccines are not safe
23:57
and they're not affective
23:58
despite there only being limited
23:59
interest in the chamber from colleagues
24:02
and I'm very grateful for those who have
24:04
attended we can see from the public
24:05
Gallery there is considerable public
24:07
interest I would implore all members of
24:10
the House present and those not to
24:11
support calls for a three-hour debate on
24:14
this important issue and Mr Deputy
24:16
speaker this might be the first debate
24:17
on excess deaths in our Parliament
24:20
indeed it might be the first debate on
24:21
excess deaths in the world but very
24:23
sadly I promise you it won't be the
24:26
last
24:29
thank you uh Mr Deputy speaker can I
24:32
start by congratulating The Honorable
24:34
member for Northwest leer for securing
24:37
uh this important debate I do only have
24:40
five minutes of the 30 minutes uh debate
24:42
to respond so I will try and cover all
24:45
the points uh if I can can I start by
24:48
acknowledging that he is correct we have
24:51
seen an increase in excess death in the
24:53
last year however his analysis is uh
24:56
something I I will disagree with because
24:58
the causes um that he refers to um are
25:02
are simply um do not uh bear to to the
25:06
statistics that we have there have been
25:08
a combination of factors contributing to
25:10
the increase in excess death including
25:12
in the last year high flu prevalence the
25:14
ongoing challenges of Co 19 we had the
25:16
stpe outbreak and uh conditions such as
25:19
heart disease which he touched on
25:21
diabetes and cancer uh because we had
25:24
virtually a lock down of routine Health
25:26
Services over two year period many of
25:29
those are now coming forward with uh
25:31
increased morbidity and mortality as a a
25:33
result of that and starting with winter
25:35
flu the number of positive tests last
25:38
year peaked at 31.8% the highest seen in
25:41
the last 6 years and interim analysis um
25:45
from the UK HSA indicated the number of
25:47
deaths in England associated with flu
25:50
was Far higher than pre-pandemic levels
25:52
so excess deaths due to flu last winter
25:55
is sadly part of the answer and he
25:57
touched Ed on the independent body of
25:59
the ons well their figures show that the
26:01
leading cause of death in England is
26:02
still dementia which accounts for about
26:04
10% of all deaths but they do also look
26:07
at the cause of excess deaths and if you
26:09
look at the figures uh as of June this
26:11
year the top three causes of excess
26:14
deaths are respiratory illnesses
26:16
dementia and Es schic heart disease
26:18
which is often caused by uh an increase
26:20
in cholesterol uh smoking um not having
26:23
a blood pressure check so there's a
26:24
number of reasons and they are often
26:25
chronic conditions that people have had
26:27
for years decades in fact some people
26:30
and are not uh acute illnesses now just
26:33
to touch on on on some of the points um
26:36
that he has uh made in in his points uh
26:38
in the three minutes I have left uh to
26:41
respond firstly um turning to uh the
26:45
importance of vaccination I think you
26:47
know it's very easy to say that there's
26:49
a a prevalence of high rates of coid
26:52
vaccination in people who have died and
26:54
that is correct when 93.6% of your
26:56
population has had at least one dose of
26:59
the vaccine there will be a high rate of
27:01
vaccination in excess deaths that is
27:04
different to causality I completely
27:06
agree with them there's a high
27:07
prevalence rate that is not the same as
27:09
saying that that is the cause of those
27:11
deaths and the office for NASA
27:13
statistics um has looked um that
27:16
actually those who've been vaccinated
27:18
generally had a lower all cause
27:20
mortality rate than the unvaccinated
27:22
people uh since the booster introduction
27:24
in 2021 and a recent study in Singapore
27:27
actually found that um when they looked
27:30
at uh uh patients who had recovered from
27:33
coid who were unvaccinated they showed
27:35
an increased risk of by 56% more uh to
27:39
be at risk of cardiac complications a
27:41
year later compared to those who were
27:43
vaccinated so there is conflicting data
27:45
on this and I'm not necessarily
27:47
disagreeing with him but I think we need
27:49
to have a robust conversation on this
27:51
and not to assume that one um uh side uh
27:54
necessarily has um all the answers now
27:57
just to touch on the couple of points
27:59
that he made around vaccine safety now
28:01
the regulator has been uh taking account
28:04
of those who report Adverse Events and I
28:06
would encourage anyone who's had a side
28:07
effect from any of the vaccines to use
28:10
the yellow card system to report it to
28:12
their GP because when they have been
28:14
reported the MH has taken action if you
28:17
look in April 21 uh the MH reacted to
28:21
rare cases of concurrent thrombosis and
28:23
thrombocytopenia following the azed
28:25
vaccine uh which resulted in um adults
28:28
under 30 not being offered That vaccine
28:31
and in May 21 that was increased to the
28:33
adults under 40 and particularly to the
28:36
MRA vaccine in June uh 21 following
28:39
reports of a link between um coid
28:42
vaccines and myocarditis uh the
28:44
commission on human medicines conducted
28:46
an independent review which found the
28:48
incident of this side effect was rare
28:50
but it was between one and two cases for
28:52
100,000 so when there is are concerns
28:55
absolutely we must um uh invest
28:57
instigate those there is no doubt about
28:59
it and for those that have experienced
29:01
um rare side effects from the vaccine we
29:04
had to debate earlier this afternoon
29:05
about that we do have the vaccine damage
29:07
payments scheme which um offers a
29:09
payment of
29:10
120,000 if that is uh one show to be
29:14
order order thank you Mr Speaker I'm
29:16
terribly sorry the house stands
29:21
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