Outstanding Interview for Health Alliance Australia

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even though people want to take a well viruses don't exist or it can't be man-made because if I accept that then
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things aren't as bad as I think well that's kind of sad because what you're really saying is
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you don't see a way of of of reconciling viruses existing and humans manipulating
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it and you surviving yes well the reality is you're designed to survive
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just because those viruses don't leave your body just because the SARS K2 viruses
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like HIV can reverse transcribe or get into your DNA doesn't mean you will
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always be making that the question is why would you make it why would you
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make it and the answer is your immune system fails so it finds an opportunity to get out or there's something that
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says make more of this and there's a need to scientifically explain it so
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what I've been doing um couple weeks ago I went to the
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VCI conference in Florida and and gave two talks uh on SARS goy2 chrisopher
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technology what we know about the science what we know about different drug treatments on these Pathways why do
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the cancers occur why does sudden cardiac death occur why are the miscarriages occurring I mean this dat
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is all there all these blood tests that everybody is so um are so infatuated
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with because we have blood tests right so we all know we can get blood tests and you can get lipids and you can get
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electrolytes but the problem is is that that's all Downstream data it's like
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cancer markers those are Downstream data you only get that type of data when
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there's so much damage within the tissue that those enzymes and substances are
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spilling out and now they're collectible in the bloodstream so to use those as a marker we published the data on it when
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we did the quantification Fleming method and compared it to blood test results and
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what happened is we saw no correlation at all between measured tissue disease and
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blood test result this is the test that I was developing as I was exposing big
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Pharma and the lies and and figuring out that we weren't measuring anything we
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were visually guessing at a lot and in reality we were missing about a third of
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our data when we were missing on these pretty images but because qualitative
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looking at the appearance of something gives you a yes no you can either be right or wrong you know that's the
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sensitivity specific errors but when you're measuring
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something it it's distinctly different because then you're asking how accurate
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is that measurement and depending upon where you push them on the Spectrum you see different things so when you see
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more blood flow and less clotting you end up with
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Cancers when you see less blood flow and more clotting you get
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miscarriages heart attacks d diabetes
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Strokes all those things so it's where you're at on the
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Spectrum welcome to Health Alliance Australia my name is gie Rose Andrea I have been working in the health advocacy
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space um since 2011 and with Health Alliance since early
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2023 you may know me from LinkedIn and my articles are known as a sens rer and
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also hold a degrees statistics I'll be your host today as Dan Hansen is away Health Alliance is an organization that
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raises and donates money towards legal actions related to opposing Co 19 vaccines and mandates and harmful Public
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Health measures and we have donated over 200,000 to date in legal actions we also provide health advocacy related
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information on our website Health Alliance australia. org you can subscribe to our newsletter donate or
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join as a member today I I welcome a very special guest Dr Richard Fleming
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physicist nuclear C cardiologist attorney PhD MD JD 57 years of
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scientific research experience he is not only a world Authority on Health and Medical Science but the authority on
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SARS Cove 2 and Co 19 a true warrior for Health and Justice no friend of big
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farmer his C and big farmer no friend of his his CV is extensive and impressive
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he developed the Fleming method for tissue and Vascular differentiation and metabolism which is the only
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non-invasive method available to quantitively measure changes happening inside the body changes that occur with
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heart disease cancer and Co 19 this is really important because it allows Physicians to diagnose disease early and
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to assess the protocols and therapies being used and adjust accordingly I have his book stop inflammation now right
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here this just right here um actually I have
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two copies of this book I've got was so important uh a stepbystep plan to prevent treat and reverse inflammation
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and heart disease written in 1994 this book helped me to heal from heart disease in 2011 he's he actually saw my
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story online a few years ago reached out to me by email and here we are today both fighting for Humanity he's the
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author of is co 19 a bioweapon a scientific
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and investigation and to be clear he means both the jab
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the engineered gain of function virus with the spike protein leading to cancer heart disease neurological disease and
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many other conditions today we'll be discussing Dr Fleming's unified theory
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in SARS Co 2 the big picture of the jab infection and shedding are doing in the body and ways to recover links to his
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website 10l letters.org his social media and Fleming method.com will be in the
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description and on our website welcome Dr Fleming today pleasure to be here thank you for
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the invitation yeah so I thought we could start today um with SAR Cove 2
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and why in the origins of it I think I I showed you um I might just screen share
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it well well maybe I screenshare but I think I showed you before what appeared
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in the the Australian um news it was on this was in July where they kind
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of admitted to um the gain of function research actually here in the fa we
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Australia Co cover up how science was scien um which I think is probably
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fairly consistent with having with what your book has said about Co 19 being on
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biow um but I think at the end of that article they they s of said oh we still
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not 100% sure on it but it actually appeared in the mainstream news weekend
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it's actually a the better of the newspapers you know for mainstream news that right I
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would say you know in terms of Australia the premium level well you know the the interesting
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thing about science is you're basically trying to put the pieces of information together
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to get as good an answer to the question that you have and the question about is
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co 19 a bioweapon you know short of them coming forward and saying yes we built
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it you have to you have to look at the evidence and the information that's
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there and what we do in the book is to lay out some of not all of the
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information but enough information for the general public to look at it and say
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what okay um clearly you know more than $60
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million which now seems like a Dro in the bucket the way we're throwing money out um but for the last couple decades
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that was a substantial amount of money more than half of which was funded by the United States Department of Defense
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and then Health and Human Services and National Institutes of allergies infectious diseases when you trace those
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monies those Grant Monies to whom they went to and then the research that was published
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by those individuals you're left uncomfortably looking at RS
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3367 uh hc04 and then ma15 as three
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viruses that when you look at the PCR data match what's called SARS CO2 Okay
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so so you know all three of those viruses are man-made viruses gain of
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function means humans took something that was naturally occurring and modified it either to make it more
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infectious or to make it more pathologic more harmful or both people like to say
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it's one or the other but it isn't necessarily I mean viruses in and of
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themselves these small little uh organism Ms that must have a host to
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survive because they don't have all the genetic and all the cellular materials
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that our cells do so they have to use animal cells to reproduce themselves
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um so they're dependent upon not killing off their host and and so they they they
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balance that but you know and and hopeful I think for the general audience
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is the recognition that if viruses and bacteria and parasites and all the other
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things that can infect people can be handled then even a virus that is
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modified or manipulated by people eventually can be handled the question
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is you have it's important to know that it has been made by people because you
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need to understand why it's able to do what it does so that you you can
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determine how to deal with it yeah hopefully that made sense I mean that's what our research did early on in 2020
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was I sat down and asked fundamental questions what do we know about
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viruses which drugs do we know that work and I was specifically looking for four
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things I was looking for drugs that interfere with the virus being able to
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attach now A2 receptor is what most people have
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have heard yes but it turns out that that's the second attachment site it's
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just the one that everybody's heard of the first attachment site is how this
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SARS kv2 virus Spike protein attaches to the nerve 5ac
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receptor which is not something you've heard about but the ner 5 AC receptor is
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one of the things that separates humans from many other animals most other animals take that ner
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5 AC and they convert it to nerve 5gc we can't do that so anything that's a nerve
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5gc animal beef pork lamb is an antigen to
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us it's a foreign protein that we don't have and we react to it that way we
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cause an inflammation and blood clotting to it and that's part of what was included in that original Fleming
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unified theory but that Spike protein first swings into
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that ner 5ac receptor and then goes up to the A2 receptor okay that nerve 5 AC
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receptor is important because it is attached to the spike protein by the
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glycoprotein 120 that was put into that Spike protein
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of that virus by Shang Lee in her early work in the early two early
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1990s she was working on taking the HIV virus pseudo HIV virus
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with its glycoprotein 120 and connecting that up with the SARS kovi virus the
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original virus and you know in the book is co 19 a bioweapon you can read about
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that research it's right there in plain sight we have collected in what we're doing
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the 10 letters.org campaign to indict the criminals responsible for doing this
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because these are criminal actions we've not only collected the affidavits from
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the experts involved but every one of the the the papers all the research all
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the all the all the documents from the federal government all the documents
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from the published research we have all of that saved so if they go and they wipe the internet clean it doesn't
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matter to me because we've still got it sorry the library we we assembled the
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library before they could wipe it and that was part of what I was doing when
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everybody was saying well aren't you making any progress I was making progress but the attorney hat now going
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on I needed to get all the documents saved and
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protected yeah and secured and then multiple copies made and that took a lot
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longer longer than I anticipated it wasn't the only thing I was working on at the time but we have over 9,800
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documents wow on a USB drive that explains viruses and these viruses and
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the drugs and the genetic vaccines and everything connected with it and to give
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people a flavor what that means most people have seen the emails
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the those notorious emails from Anthony fouchy and other people uh talking about
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the origins well those emails I think there's over a thousand
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pages of them that's one document wow that's one document so everything
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independent of how long it is it's still a document we have over 9,800 documents
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so as you can imagine there's a lot of information there
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um so these things engineed the the virus um were to make it were they to
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make it more deadly and more infectious was that well you know again that's one
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of those things that we're only going to know if they want to answer that question what we know is that it made
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them more infectious and more deadly Okay so
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speak to we can just right I can't speak to why another human being did it I mean
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I can I can come up with all sorts of hypotheticals legal term hypotheticals
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where you play it out and I can I can argue what I think they were doing but they're going to have to defend that in
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court all I need to do is show wait a minute this is clearly not
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man-made and it's had a devastating impact I mean I don't know what the
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total World numbers are I'm more familiar with the US numbers but I can tell you that in the United States more
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than 1.1 million Americans died from the disease
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coid that equals the number of deaths that the United States military has had
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since 1776 wow yeah the vaccines from the
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vaccine Adverse Events have more more than 1.5 million
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injuries to date accept it and I I don't need to speculate and I won't speculate
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how much of the numbers is that if 1.5 million does not get your attention I
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don't you know 15 million or 150 billion isn't going to do anymore 1.5 million
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should get your attention and why is that significant because that's more injuries than the US military has had
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injuries since 1776 we've got another 550,000 deaths from
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the inflam thrombotic diseases heart disease Alzheimer's disease from the
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pryan effect cancers of those of those 600 550 to
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560,000 only 28,000 are pneumonia yeah the rest are all inflam
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Dy other things aren't they it's not they're dying of right um because I
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think a lot of times people think okay in just in terms of coid and coid deaths
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but we're looking at it in terms of whether in terms of the say the infection even um The Wild Virus
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whatever the Wuhan strain whatever strain is out there um we're actually just most people saying oh did they die
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of coid do they not die of coid but what you're saying with um the bioweapon is that people can die of multiple things
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whether it's heart disease it can trigger cancer um neurological
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issues sudden if you right if you get infected with SARS
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K2 and it causes an inflammo thrombotic response you can't have inflammation
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without blood clotting everybody wants to just say inflammation well if that's the case why why is everybody calling
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them clot shots right yeah everybody's admitting there's thrombi clots right so
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you don't get inflammation without blood clotting you don't get blood clotting without inflammation it's inflammo thrombotic response and if my use of the
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term inflammation and heart disease disas has dumb that understanding down
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then I accept responsibility for dumbing that down um and and and it was but the reality is
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I think we've all come a long way and we can all learn to say inflam thrombotic um and if what comes into you
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this virus causes that inflammation and blood clotting so that you die from these types of diseases well that caused
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it it's kind of like um you get into a car
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crash and then it causes internal bleeding and you die from the bleeding
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well you wouldn't have died from that bleeding had you not been in a car crash that's why yeah
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right do you feel like people need to um get this virus out of them after they've
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had like it obviously can hide in the body at times I mean how are the
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protocols there to remove the virus from them is it
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um because you know there's that whole talk I guess about natural immunity you've had it once um therefore you know
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you won't have it again and we know that doesn't happen like we know now that people are getting multiple multiple
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times VX or unvax people are are catching and every time it seems to be an assault on the immune system it seems
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to be taking a little bit of the life force from people every time till they perhaps die of something else or get
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very very sick right so I feel like you know in terms of um people's overall health we need to raise the the health
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status of people by other other means I think you you discuss it well in your book yeah so one of the important things
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for people to realize is that once you get an infection you always have that
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infection a good example for people understand is vericella or
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chickenpox right I mean this is one that most people are aware of and then later
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on in life what happens people get herp zoster or also called shingles that's
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that same virus just reexpressing itself why does it reexpress itself well it
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does that because the person's immune system starts to fail yeah they have other health problems they don't take
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care of themselves and the virus re expresses we're seeing that with people infected
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with SARS CO2 other viruses re-emerging
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heptin bar hepatitis HIV um a variety of of other viruses
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reexpressing themselves some of them are cancer promoters just like Saros scoby too as a cancer promoter for a variety
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of reasons but again just because that's the
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reality that you never get rid of it that doesn't mean that you just got a death sentence
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um you you know we have somehow adopted
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this attitude in oncology cancer especially you have cancer well you're GNA
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die um wow you know we used to have that with with heart disease
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right have a heart attack yeah you're gonna die no no in fact you know in the
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1960s we we we kept people in bed for a week to 10 days because we were afraid
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to exercise their heart mus and then when they got up they died right and we discovered that that was the wrong thing
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to do we needed to get people up and start reconditioning and strengthening their heart so their heart could recover
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so it wouldn't continue to form a larger and larger scar so that you you know you
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could you could recover you know heart failure patients have this th this
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mentality that somebody has an ejection fraction 10 15% I me I mean the lowest
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heart failure patient which is a garbage can term by the way that's a cluster of
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diseases um you know that I've taken care of had a left andrig systolic
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ejection fraction of 8% and you know we improve that you can
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improve that um postpartum cardiomyopathy as I was explaining before we went on the air I two of the
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people that trained me in heart failure was one of the things that I first got known for as a cardiologist fellow you
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know the the woman who who uh pioneered the concept of diastolic dysfunction or
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a stiff heart when it's trying to relax and fill with blood and postpartum cardiomyopathy those two people train me
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as a as a fellow um so I you know I was blessed with that you know that was just another
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one of those oportunities that I had in my life to actually be trained by the
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people who pioneered it like Denton C kulie and Michael debaki trained me and those folks um Gerald narelli for
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electrophysiology and and you know one thing you learn hopefully is that things that you
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think can't be treated can be treated you can do things to recover whether
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it's heart function or to recover from these viruses I mean we know and and part of what I've put on fling method
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and I'm doing now for the medical is explaining we know there are a lot of drugs a lot of drugs that are
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effective at not only preventing the attachment of the virus but the other
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three things that I was looking at was the replication of the virus and the
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inflam thrombotic response both in the early phase of immune response and the
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latter phase of immune response so te- cells and antibodies
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um we know there are drugs are useful for that we know there are drugs that
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are useful for treating the cancer uh Pathways the nine cancer Pathways
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hispidulin uh hyos vitamin C uh a number of other antibody drugs that are
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available for the right reason uh there are uh e64d or uh atova
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atorvastatin is a drug that is tremendously effective not only the
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prion disease but for people with head trauma the so it's the combination of
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some of the drugs that are out there by big Pharma you know not everybody in big Pharma is bad just because I've dealt
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with some bad people doesn't mean everybody is bad there are really good people in big Pharma that have done some
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very very good work I know of a person who is working on genetic diseases right now who is very upset that the work that
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he's done because he's in a resta genetic heart disease has been manipulated by somebody by the name of
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baric at the University of North Carolina with gain of function yeah so here's a man who's trying his darnest to
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contribute to the science and to make life better particularly for for children and and later adults with
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congenital heart disease while you've got other people out there like baric manipulating it so you've got good
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people and bad people and I and I I would just implore people to
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understand that the answer for this isn't one extreme or the other extreme
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it is not just prescription medications and and I I go through this conversation
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you know this hopefully by reading my books that I will argue that vitamins
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and minerals and and and and nutrition is a foundation of allopathic medicine
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now that may not be the experience that most people are getting from their allopathic doctor their MD but it's
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foundation in allopathic medicine so if it's not being used that's not on me and
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it's not on allopathic medicine it's on the people that are being trained that aren't then using it but there's great
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data showing the roles of uh vitamins a b c d and e in these V in in these
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viruses and and in cancers um so we know this is there and
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we and there's good well published data showing cancers that didn't respond for
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example to the treatments and then when high doses of Vitamin C were added
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wow not not one or the other but it had to be both both were needed to really
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get the substantial benefit um we know so hopefully what that did is
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to is to reinforce it just because viruses come and they stay in you doesn't mean you can't stay health
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healthy and and and control them okay number one saying not to like put your
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head in the sand and like the viruses don't exist or you know the whole talking about this before that people
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have moved to this uh position where they'll say oh viruses don't exist they've never been isolated um you know
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anyone that says it is some sort of controlled opposition in order to bring forth the next pandemic and more restrictions right but what we're
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essentially saying yes viruses do exist they can be harmful but your body is able to mount an immune response to it
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with supportive um either treatments or nutrition as a foundation right
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supplements the right lifestyle choices like sleeping you know Sunshine all of those positive things that you can do
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even your thoughts I think you know the whole pandemic has really brought out
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that you know a kind of a negativity you know and and yeah you you know and you
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don't have to go too far down the thought process I mean you probably know I have a masters in psychology as well
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um but you don't have to go too far down that pathway before you realize that it has an effect on cortisol that overly
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stressed human beings have an effect on cortisol which is critical to maintain a
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a healthy immune response a healthy heart healthy you name it um so you don't have
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to be a rocket scientist you don't have to get too far out there and say well you know I have to I have to believe in
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something Mystic or whatever to believe and there there's a real if nothing more cortisol explains a huge Body Mind
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connection and the end the impact of that if you're constantly living under a stress condition you're fatiguing your
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your your your body and your body's ability to deal with with any health issues that confront it it's very
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critical and you mentioned it to get the right amount of sleep so your body can recover and repair and get ready for the
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next day um you know that's it it's and and what we
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saw at the very beginning of this in particular were people not exercising
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not getting outside not eating healthy eating garbage gaining weight I mean you
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know um obesity is a huge contributor to inflam thrombotic diseases we know this
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we've we've been monitoring this for years in in heart disease there's something known as the the waist to hip
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ratio which is basically how big is that belly because it's those fat cells that
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are responsible for much of this inflamm thrombotic response um and it's more than just cyto
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kindes you know people talk about cyto kind storm cyto storm is nothing more than a cute name that was given by big
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Pharma to explain the the bad consequences for what's called C cell
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therapy so C cell therapy is not nothing nothing more than gain of function
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research it's taking and applying gain of function to your te- cells and then
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putting them back in your body and so when people were you when it was first starting to be used there were all these
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bad side effects and patients said well we don't know if we want to do that I
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mean we're getting sicker and the answer was we'll give it a term cocine storm oh
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we have a term and now well we have a term Mrs Jones it's to be expected that
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you know your car T Cell Therapy will do this to you it's called cyto Kine storm oh okay you know but um cyto kind
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storm that's the wheels that's the four wheels of the car inflam thrombotic
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response is the vehicle so if you think that they're the same thing I encourage
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every parent to go tell their kids that they're going to go buy them a car and then go buy them four tires and put it
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outside the house and say I got you a car and then look at the response of the kids when they go you didn't get me a
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car you got me four tires yeah well just sit in between there and pretend to drive right so it's not the same thing
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no and I think what you're talking about with the UniFi Theory um from my reading of it or it says this balance the home
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status balance between the body using inflammation in order to rid itself of disease and the over reaction where um
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you you have this I can't say the word in you know response that is over the
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top and is is causing all sorts of other health issues and it's s of bringing people back to home status um and yeah
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so yeah and we know about this I mean cardiolog is a big teacher of this um we
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used to have so there's a drug known as hudin and hudin is basically leech Venom
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and when I was a Cardiology fellow we were testing her Rudin with people who were having blood blood clots having
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myocardial infrction or heart damage from their blood clot in their arteries of their heart and so we would bring
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them in the in the hospital and we would treat them we would take them to the cardiac cath lab and we would give them
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her Rudin and I remember when we first started seeing the men and I walked into the coronary Care Unit after the first
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patient and it looked like somebody had taken a machete to this man's face I was
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like what happened to my patient and the nurses said well he wanted to shave so
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we gave him a razor yeah and and the standing joke at the time and sorry if
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people don't think this is funny but in medicine you develop a sense of humor like this or you don't survive I said
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you know the standing joke is Mrs Jones good news bad news good news your husband didn't die from his myocardial
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infarction his heart attack bad news he bled to death because of the hudin I gave him and he shaved you know so the
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system has to have balance and if you press it too too much One Direction or the other you have a
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problem so why inflam thrombosis well when something is in your body that
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shouldn't be there your body it starts to kill cells
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your cells go to attack it and those cells die and when they do that they release chemicals and that causes
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swelling and redness and but it also causes blood clotting and the blood
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clotting does two things the the blood vessels
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the area to prevent nutrients from getting to the
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Invader and it clots to prevent The Invader from getting
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out so everything that goes on with all of these diseases heart disease Strokes
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coid 19 high blood pressure diabetes cancer these are all issues where
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there's inflammation and blood clotting going on and depending upon where you push them on the Spectrum you see
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different things so when you see more blood flow and less clotting you end up with
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Cancers you see less blood flow and more clotting you get
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miscarriages heart attacks diabetes
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Strokes all those things so it's where you're at on the Spectrum and as you you
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probably just figured out you don't want to be over here and you don't want to be over here you want to be in that sweet
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spot where homeostasis or balance is achieved where there's just enough of
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everything going on to prevent the bad things from going on and and keep you
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healthy you can help in a lot of ways via what you put
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in your body healthy diet healthy lifestyle the
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vitamins and minerals when you need medications the right medications in the right amount more is not necessarily
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better you have to find what works for each and every human being which is
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where we were talking about fluming method before we went live which is it's
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the only method that can quantify what's going on in the body so it it doesn't make a mistake it doesn't miss disease
36:20
or say you have disease when it doesn't it says where are you at on the Spectrum it's an accuracy thing and it's
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been calibrated to be accurate and with that accuracy you can
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what's the health of your brain your liver your spleen your heart your lungs find a
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problem select a treatment then repeat Fleming method or
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FM tvdm as I called it but Fleming method because that's easier to remember
36:49
um and then measure did that work for you for your problem that's what we did
36:54
for coid patients to def find the treatments that actually work so in the
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end even though people want to take a well viruses don't exist or it can't be
37:06
man-made because if I accept that then things aren't as bad as I think well that's kind of sad because what you're
37:13
really saying is you don't see a way of of of
37:19
reconciling viruses existing and humans manipulating it and you surviving yes
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well the reality is you're designed to survive just because those viruses don't
37:31
leave your body just because the SARS K2 viruses
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and like HIV can reverse transcribe or get into your DNA doesn't mean you will
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always be making that the question is why would you make it why would you make
37:49
it and the answer is your immune system fails so it finds an opportunity to get out or there's something that says make
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more of this so most of our DNA believe it or not
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is the it's called promoters or Inhibitors that say yeah go ahead and
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make that P of the DNA most of that is most of our DNA is that 18% of our DNA is something called
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long interpers nucleotide elements one which is the genetic sequence to take
38:25
outside DNA or RNA and put it into our DNA so
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there has to be a benefit right yeah otherwise 18% that's almost 1 right 20%
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one5 you know there has to be some benefit for doing that but there also then has to be control mechanisms and if
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you have something like SARS K2 or the genetic vaccines going into your
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DNA then the question is first you have to have a reason for your cells to make
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that and number two every time you do make it and your DNA opens up you have
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repair mechanisms that are designed to correct errors you don't have to
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remove all of the junk DNA for lack of a better term I you know if you just
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change one or two things about that junk DNA it'll no longer be junk DNA it'll be
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inert it'll be non-existent as far as being produced by anything right if you
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change that Spike protein with a couple of amino acids or nucleotides it's no
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longer that spiked protein it's no longer causing the problem so you clip
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out a couple of those just by repairing your DNA and it doesn't matter that it's
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there it's just body eliminated Yeah Yeah from what you're saying I'm hearing
39:48
that even those people who have been vaccinated by this B weapon there is hope for them that that if obviously
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starting from a different level of of what needs to be done I think we're all being challenged now the fact that
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they've released this thing into the environment in demic it's it's it's there now so in terms of health status
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we we don't we may not get away with what we might have got away pre um the pandemic pre the release of this thing
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so um in terms of the Jabs say are having to recover they can still recover
40:21
with the immune system obviously it depends on a lot of factors like AIDS is that what you're saying um what they do
40:26
for imuno support supplements the treatments perhaps even the drugs that they might be um prescribed to put them
40:34
on that that sky as you were sh yeah absolutely and your job is to improve
40:42
the health of your body and you know the responsibility of the medical community
40:48
is to learn the information and then to apply it to patients and the responsibility of the patients is
40:56
to work on their health which means going to the physician getting the medications that are necessary but doing
41:02
the other things that you know you should be doing I mean I used to have patients come to me and say Dr FL we'd
41:09
like to get a nuclear study to see if we have heart disease and I would say
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Okay um do tell why why do you want a
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study right well because if I get this study and it shows I have heart disease
41:27
I'm going to change my diet and lifestyle okay yep all right now you can
41:32
imagine how well that went over with me so I would say you know so you want to
41:39
study to tell you whether you have heart disease and if it says you have heart disease you're
41:46
going to change your diet and lifestyle to what you should be doing but if it doesn't you're going to continue with
41:53
the same diet and lifestyle that you have been doing until you get get to the point that you have heart
41:58
disease at which time then you're going to change your diet and lifestyle why are you not now changing
42:05
your diet and lifestyle if you know that this is what you need to do why would you wait until you have a problem or
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till you have more of a problem so no I won't do a nuclear study for you I won't do these other tests for you because I'm
42:18
not going to do it so you will make the decision to do the right thing you need to make that decision right and that's
42:25
where everybody is really at you know yeah it's interesting that you say that I've had someone say I know your book is
42:33
essentially a plantbased diet um in the book and of course that comes with a
42:40
whole can of worms um and now I don't know if you've um seen within I guess um
42:49
Society there real move towards um Carnival diets you know keto and all of
42:56
that sort of things which kind of from my reading of what you're you're saying goes against um the science of in terms
43:04
of heart yeah and um because our our bodies are not responding to that like you're
43:10
not saying I don't think you not to eat meat at all but really to very to limit
43:15
it um essentially and if you are healing from heart disease um the best option is to not have it at all yeah you know the
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the reality was to try to sort yeah no you're doing a great job I mean the reality is I'm not
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anti- I'm anti- stupid that's what I amti stupid um I you know I
43:38
don't I don't have this emotional attachment to uh to
43:44
meet um the reality is and and you froze up it's a great picture um the reality
43:50
is you know my family I'm I'm Viking bloodline and so Vikings are are very
43:58
big into Transportation education farming uh and textiles that that's
44:04
basically what we dominate on um there my I grew up my my father's side of the
44:13
family uh had a restaurant food chain that I worked in as as a teenager growing up it was a WR of Passage my
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cousins who are also Flemings um have steakhouses and pfchangs over the United
44:27
States so you know if you want to contribute to the wealth of my cousins go for it um I don't have an emotional
44:35
attachment one way or the other my my focus is what causes health problems in
44:40
people and these antigens that are in the diets your body recognizes as not you
44:48
not human and it responds to it so um that has clearly had a lot of people not
44:55
very happy Happ with it but again it's not because
45:00
I'm Pro anything other than just getting to the truth uh uh the
45:11
answers yeah so in terms of um the UniFi Theory um in terms of
45:17
nutrition um how how would what would you say you know is the say the optimum
45:24
what what people should have fairly alkaline do no um how people support
45:32
themselves you know like are you standing by what you've written in the book yeah
45:39
so4 so I yes I I stand by everything that's in those books and I'm pescatarian if anybody
45:47
cares uh because it seems that a lot of people want to know what I actually eat
45:53
yeah um but my focus is look the things that
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that tip you over are anything that is antigenic so if you're eating land
46:05
animals it's antigenic sorry it's not me I didn't come up with it it's just the
46:10
science but the things that I think people need to do as far as dietary wise is obviously control calories I mean a
46:18
second grader can tell you what happens if you eat too many calories you get fat if you get fat you make fat if you make
46:24
fat it's bad for you ially trans fats because they don't bend and they stick
46:29
in things and then they cause IR irritation they cause an inflammable thrombotic response and I don't care
46:35
where that trans fat comes from I don't care if it's an animal Source I don't care if it's a plant Source it doesn't
46:43
matter you you I mean you know we talked about this beforehand there were oils that I mentioned eliminating in the
46:50
books that people don't get right up front because they're they're reading it for what they want
46:57
um you don't eat garbage you don't eat excess calories you don't think eat things that cause an inflamm thrombotic
47:03
response you don't eat these saturated particularly trans fats you don't eat refined processed garbage um and and you
47:12
don't eat uh you know I've never told anybody to go on a Santa Claus diet a high sugar diet there's no you know um
47:19
it doesn't suggest that because you know uh I'm trying to get you to not do other
47:25
things that I think you should go out there and start Downing bags of cnh sugar uh although you
47:33
know that's that's not to attack C&H sugar it's just a statement that you know nowhere in that did I say these
47:41
other things were good now my parents would have told you that you know and
47:48
and they didn't have any of the degrees that I had but clearly they knew from the food industry and I think most
47:54
intelligent people would tell you to not eat things that in in those categories
48:02
right um and that and that's what I have concerns with I know that some of the
48:09
people that I've had to deal with in in the uh media in in the news with
48:17
these particular diets I know these people had heart disease that they were covering up because I I know the behind
48:23
the scenes data and I'm not going to share that data because that's an ethical violation on my part and it's
48:29
has nothing to do with anybody else's ethical obligation it's my ethical obligation where information that I know
48:36
about somebody in particular is really not somebody else's business if you want to know what somebody's health is you go
48:43
ask them don't ask me um so you know I I think that's the Crux
48:51
of that and then in the unified theory I simply looked at what are as a result of all these dietary and lifestyle uh
48:59
issues what what really happens to all these other factors that that come in
49:06
homocysteine and lipoprotein little a and fibrinogen and infectious diseases how
49:12
all of these play a role in causing more this inflam thrombotic response and and
49:18
the diseases that it causes um my job is to sort it out and part of what I've
49:25
done in my research is I've I've also looked at all these blood tests that everybody is so um are so infatuated
49:33
with because we have blood tests right so we all know we can get blood tests and you can get lipids and you get
49:39
electrolytes but the problem is is that that's all Downstream data it's like
49:45
cancer markers those are Downstream data you only get that type of data when
49:50
there's so much damage within the tissue that those enzymes and substances are
49:56
spilling out and now they're collectible in the bloodstream so to use those as a marker we published the data on it when
50:03
we did the quantification Fleming method and compared it to blood test results and
50:08
what happened is we saw no correlation at all between measured tissue disease and
50:17
blood test results now we did see if you start at Point a and you know where
50:23
somebody's tissue disease is and where they're lipids are for example and you monitor
50:28
them over the time then there is a correlation with changes in tissue disease and changes in lipids but that
50:36
first blush comparison there's no correlation at all which means that Downstream marker that blood test using
50:42
that to say oh I'm healthy or I'm not healthy is not valid it's not the tissue
50:50
level and it's at the tissue level that the disease is not what's floating through the bloodstream you know I used
50:56
to get residents and and fellows and interns and students that would uh
51:02
present to me in morning rounds and somebody who came in they had a heart attack and they would go well Mr Jones
51:08
has um he he doesn't smoke and is and he's not diabetic and there's no family
51:13
history and his total cholesterol is this and his LDL is that and I'm looking at electrocardiogram and blood work that
51:19
shows he just had an MI a heart attack right and I will then look at the
51:25
students and I'll go so what's what what's the point of what you're telling me well I thought you'd like to know the
51:31
risk factors because they help determine if somebody is going to have a heart attack and I said don't you think that
51:37
the number one marker whether the person had a heart attack might be I don't know
51:42
the electroc cardiogram that shows he had a heart attack yes so you can tell
51:47
me that he has no risk factors and shouldn't have had a heart attack but here's the
51:54
electrocardiogram had a heart attack right I guess people would want to know like say for example
52:00
they they've taken the vaccine or they feel like they've been um a victim of shedding or um they've had some postco
52:07
syndrome what sort of tests uh should they be looking at or should they looking at symptoms because I know for a
52:14
fact that people have um you know they they've had a vaccine they've had a reaction they've got chest pains they
52:20
report to hospital hospital does a battery of tests on them they say you
52:25
can't find anything but can you go to your GP and get um a Medicare um where
52:34
you basically get a script to get five um psychological you know psychological
52:41
and uh
52:46
appointments I'm sorry I probably shouldn't laugh at that I just because we think
52:51
after we've done after we've done these tests um that we can't find anything
52:58
wrong so it must be in your head um right obviously that's all very helpful to people who are actually sick and then
53:05
there needs to be I mean people have talked about you know DDI tests you know lifeblood analysis what would you say if
53:12
someone wants to know what's going on in their body yeah um well to begin with um my
53:18
follow back to that would be that's part of what we're going to start looking for with Fleming method because we know that
53:25
part of what's going on is progenic disease now from the heart perspective
53:32
the tests that most doctors are running for your heart aren't going to show you prion disease those are nuclear Imaging
53:39
tests that that do that and we know for a fact we've seen in people that have
53:45
heart disease myocarditis it's not myocarditis that's the inflammation part
53:52
that's the the Sim simple easy entry understanding for a
53:57
cardiologist but we know that these Spike proteins whether they're coming from the viruses or from the genetic
54:03
vaccines that make the Spy protein that are progenic that there's amalo disease of
54:09
the heart going on and that's important because that ameloid disease is one of
54:15
the components that sets you up for sudden cardiac death from your heart stopping its Rhythm and we also know
54:21
that to find that you need to do specialized nuclear imaging test to find
54:27
it um and doctors aren't doing that so one thing is that you know if you're not
54:33
doing the right test you won't find the problem right
54:38
um one of the uh and it's important because if you treat somebody like they
54:45
have an inflamed heart myocarditis and it's due to the prion effect you'll kill them you will end up
54:51
killing them so it's important to distinguish that the we know that shedding is a real
54:59
phenomenon we know that because the US government has admitted it's a it's a problem when did they do that the 2017
55:07
paper that Health and Human Services and the FDA wrote to the
55:13
industry about shedding and genetic vaccines
55:18
2017 guidance to the industry and then in 2020 they published or 2021 they
55:24
published paper talking about shedding was the product of the vector which
55:29
means the spike protein is the product of the vector we also know as I've been telling people in recent
55:36
presentations that not only is it the spike protein but fine that's released
55:42
from cells in response to the Fine cleavage site of this virus is shedding
55:48
and when it sheds it causes these Cancers and other things and we also
55:54
know as I've been talking about for several years now that there are something known
55:59
as transmissible and transferable vaccines so the difference is whether you inject it or whether it's a topical
56:06
you rub it on can be transferred to somebody else so that can be transferred
56:12
so you kind of have to know what you got exposed to to know what to test for and
56:18
how did it get into you the problem with that is that it's almost impossible I to
56:27
differentiate whether it's a virus that got into you or a genetic vaccine that
56:33
get into you with its shedding product you can't differentiate them the only diff differentiation is that if you do
56:42
antibodies to the nucleocapsid which is part of the spike protein but not one of the genetic
56:48
vaccines then you can differentiate between virus or genetic vaccine
56:56
that being said the question is does it matter whether you test positive for it and as
57:05
I look at that as a physician my answer is it depends upon whether you're
57:11
clinically presenting symptoms or whether we can measure
57:17
actual damage to tissue under those latter two circumstances now you have something to
57:23
treat because if you don't have symptoms and you can't find tissue
57:30
damage now you're left with you're going to take a medication whether that's a vitamin or a
57:36
mineral or or a drug that's prescribed and you're not going to have
57:42
a way of measuring a benefit but there will almost certainly
57:48
for some people be a side effect this is why I'm not a big
57:54
proponent of prophylaxis because how do you
58:00
know that you the benefit came from what you're
58:06
taking or you were just going to have that benefit because your body handled it and the answer is you
58:14
don't you don't and of course have negative side effects to they and throw
58:21
you out um yeah so people especially you know they're taking things long term
58:27
like we know like with Vitamin D it can you know put calcium where it's not meant to go so you're taking high dose
58:33
vitamin D um that that can happen so in terms of um I know you talked about
58:40
amals and mosis and do you think that this is what they're seeing in terms of
58:45
the white clots that are forming in people or was that right so those white clots I don't
58:52
know if you're aware of it I actually did research and Dr Kevin McCaron out of
58:59
Japan uh did some of this early research with me where I took the genetic vaccines and added them directly to
59:05
human blood yeah saw that yeah and we have published that data and it immediately turns the blood
59:13
gray which means it's no longer able to hold oxygen which means the hemoglobin has been
59:19
damaged and it causes this inflam thrombotic blood clotting effect
59:25
gray clotting blood need I say more right yeah I mean
59:30
that's what you're seeing glay gray clotted white yeah so they're the white clots
59:37
all right so in terms of um the the amids
59:42
what from what I what what I I'm hearing you saying is that even from shedding
59:48
perhaps people could develop am osis um right from
59:55
they could so if you end up with am amiloidosis of the heart there are drugs
1:00:00
that can be used including steroids by the way including you know burst and
1:00:06
taper steroids are one of the one of the potential treatments for that as far as
1:00:11
uh the same ameloid disease causing Alzheimer's and prion diseases in the brain e64d eloxatin has been shown to be
1:00:21
beneficial hyos nasin has been shown to be beneficial 500 milligrams once twice
1:00:27
three times a day has been shown to be beneficial um most people don't like
1:00:34
niin because it causes flushing yeah right well that flushing occurs because
1:00:40
nasin causes a prostag gland in E2 release and the and the consequence of prostag gland in E2 being produced is
1:00:48
vasod dilation or flushing phenomenon and that is blocked by lotos aspirin go
1:00:54
figure right so if you know when I explain to people you're going to be
1:01:00
taking niin I tell them you may notice fleshing you may not do you want to take a a
1:01:10
aspirin to block that or do you want to see if you have flushing first yeah you
1:01:15
know and and as you can imagine I'm a proponent of saying why don't you see if you're going to have flushing first
1:01:22
right why why why take the second drug for a side effect of the first drug if
1:01:28
you don't even know if you're going to have that side effect but if you have the side effect used to the fling I mean
1:01:34
like the flushing is quite enjoyable after a while like I take nice and myself I found that to be quite useful
1:01:41
in terms of recovery so you know I don't mind the the flushing um so in terms and
1:01:46
for you it would be particularly helpful you know for cardiac output yeah like I
1:01:51
I I I find that you know that's this is one of the on supplements that I will take as well as magnesium high do
1:01:58
magnesium is also I've always found to be very useful in terms of keeping the the the heart um in good Rhythm um as
1:02:05
well as you know hydration um so back to I guess back to the topic of um the
1:02:12
UniFi theory in in terms of SAR Cove 2 um how do you see that in terms of what
1:02:20
we're talking about with HIV in terms of people's immune systems now being um
1:02:25
compromised I guess in terms of uh population wide I would say we are going
1:02:32
to see um People's Health decline just simply because of what has happened you
1:02:38
know whether it's you know the vaccine or you know the engineered virus and shedding so how will we lift the
1:02:46
population's you know health status immune St well one of the things you
1:02:52
know if you're somebody who took Pax lovid I would I would be more
1:02:58
concerned the reason for that is um so I'll share some information that Professor Luke Monier and I were were
1:03:06
working on one of the things that had been noticed early on when HIV was being
1:03:11
investigated so when you're looking for viruses you have to do two things they're too small to see you can't see
1:03:18
them like a bacteria they're too small right so you do electron microscopy to
1:03:24
see it because that allows you to see something that small but unfortunately when you do electron microscopy you kill
1:03:32
what you're doing the electron microscopy up so you can't do something with it after that and so you you do
1:03:38
that for the visual what's the anatomy the structure of it and then we
1:03:44
genetically take things apart to Define what something is right I mean that's where we live in 2023 and we've lived
1:03:51
there for a couple decades we no longer Define things based upon whether they're round or green or red um we Define them
1:03:59
by your genetic code sequence that's how humans are defined giraffes are defined SARS KOB 2 is defined and you can go to
1:04:07
Fleming method.com and go look in that fourth colum drop down you'll see there's over
1:04:13
30,000 uh samples that were completely uh nucleotide based sequenced out for
1:04:19
the entire viruses most of it from early on when they were worried about the
1:04:25
cruise ships and everything else but so we noticed that when the proteas
1:04:33
Inhibitors started being used for HIV people got better and then they got
1:04:38
worse really worse and the electron microscopy data showed that the HIV
1:04:46
viruses were being denuded the outer part of the virus was being changed and
1:04:51
then what was noticed electron microscopic Ally was small little particles showing up with those small
1:04:57
little particles now we know were glycoprotein
1:05:03
120 that insert that's gone into these Spike proteins so one of the pro one of
1:05:08
the concerns that both Luke and Professor Luke and I had up front was with the Pax loid we were concerned that
1:05:16
it would Denude the SARS CO2 and in fact you've seen people get worse after Pax
1:05:22
loit and it appears to be doing the same thing so that's one set of people the
1:05:29
folks who got Pax lovid who had this denuding effect of the Soros Koby 2
1:05:34
Spike protein and this glycoprotein 120 now I would argue
1:05:40
because nobody has ever come into me and had me say I guess there's nothing we can do for you my brain simply says what
1:05:49
can we do for you you know because we're going to give you a fighting chance we're going to we're gonna go after the
1:05:55
offender whatever that might be that's my job one of my jobs um the MD hat you
1:06:02
know um and so I would argue that there is some real
1:06:08
benefit uh on on on the glycoprotein 120 for uh the treatment not only with
1:06:17
some of the drugs that I've shown and put out their in flaming method whether that be clinty or some of the other uh
1:06:23
drugs or whether that be vitamin C or whether it be niin there is some
1:06:29
benefit that appears to show up with these individuals that that are are
1:06:35
having this glycoprotein 120 expression and I would argue the same
1:06:42
would be true independent upon how that gp220 got into their system whether that
1:06:47
was PX lovit effect or the virus effect or or the genetic vaccine effect
1:06:54
um we know that uh interferon Alpha 2 Beta or the introduction of interferon
1:07:01
or the introduction of steroids is beneficial for that we also know that by
1:07:06
those two drugs will'll increase body interferon which decreases vascular endothelial growth factor which helps
1:07:14
with many of the other problems the cancer the prion disease and and the
1:07:19
sudden cardiac death so again those drugs are very helpful in helping to
1:07:25
mitigate or get things under control and again so once you've done that and
1:07:32
this material is sitting outside of a cell your body's immune system is going
1:07:37
to have an inflammo thrombotic response where it's going to go find it y pick it up and try to get it out of there and if
1:07:44
you will do everything humanly possible to improve your health you're giving
1:07:50
your body a fighting chance to do that remember these B IES have existed these
1:07:56
human bodies have existed for some time you depending upon your theologic
1:08:02
preference or whatever we're all going to have different timelines for that but
1:08:07
they didn't just pop up last weekend okay they have been functional and have helped human beings
1:08:14
survive for some time in fact we have part of our immune system the antibod
1:08:20
system that's a higher level species uh immune response the lower animals don't
1:08:26
have the Adaptive humoral antibody response they only have the t- cell innate response so we've got another
1:08:32
layer that was added on to that and I would argue there's some benefit to that
1:08:38
but it's both of those occurring and both of those being inbalance because we know that when they're not in
1:08:44
Balance you end up with autoimmune diseases Yeah so basically you're saying
1:08:51
it doesn't really matter um how someone gets sick so long as you you you support
1:08:58
the immune system you you lower down um you stop um this Spike protein
1:09:04
replicating inside them um you so I think that was interfere on uh then you
1:09:11
um yeah you you give them every Fighting Chance the their bodies through nutrition and all their other choices
1:09:18
are going to shed to get rid of um this foreign invader we like that right but
1:09:25
but everything that I talk about in those protocols we've measured that effect so we know it's going to happen
1:09:31
it's not just a computer model or a guess because you know those in silico
1:09:37
computer models they're only right 10% of the time 10 cases where the computer
1:09:44
says it's going to work only one time out of 10 does it work get 100 cases 10
1:09:49
times that you know so just because a computer model says that lock and that key should work I
1:09:57
think everybody's had the experience of taking a key putting it into a lock and
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oops it doesn't unlock the lock right and unless unless everything works as
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it's supposed to just because the two pieces of the puzzle look like they should fit together doesn't mean that
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there's going to be a response inside the human body to the benefit right I mean all the drugs that are taken are
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are the results of finding all the drugs that look like they should have worked that didn't they all look they all
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looked like they were going to work and they didn't and it's not until you put all those combinations together and you
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actually measure the effect that you go well wait a minute that drug that works
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because we can measure response and the other 23 drugs here well they look like they should have but yeah they didn't so
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toss those we're not looking at those anymore it's just one over over here
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right yeah so in terms of the spike um is there a difference in terms of the
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you know the genetic vaccine and um you know the shedding transfixion is there a
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difference in the spike or is it exactly the same so there are
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some excuse me there are some differences in the in the spike proteins that are being made compared to the
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original Wuhan H1 and clearly with the new ones that
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they're coming out with it's going to be different even than that the interesting
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thing that I found when we looked at the analysis of the nucleotide nucleotides that were
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there they're nucleotides when you have the phosphate Bond binding them together but the Adine cytosine UIL and and and
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guanine for for RNA um was not so much that they matched as
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much as they ended up producing the right amino acid sequences so you could have more than one Cod on triplet of of
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nucleotides coding for different amino acids and what they did is they they
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changed um obviously the genetic vaccines don't use uh typical
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RNA uh because uh it it's unstable and that's what the Nobel Prize was just
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given to uh W waserman and Kito if I remember it
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correctly um from the 2008 work that they did where they made pseudo urine
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and all that