Ep 84 N8 6th October 2023 Secrets and Lies

Join us for this essential must watch and take notes lesson from Liz as she steps us through Jab Exemptions and Infringements sections and clauses.Show more

There is a pdf of this on Number 8 website and on our facebook page

TIMELINE
1 – 00:01:08 - The main speaker is Liz Lambert, president of the Number 8 Workers’ Union of New Zealand. Discussion held an interview with Dr. Garcia about secret vaccine 12A exemptions that allowed over 11,000+ people to avoid vaccination. OIA discussed.
- Under Section 7A that individuals could get independently from their doctor. 4 additional exemptions were added but later removed in November 2021.
- Exemptions were then required to go through a doctor applying under Section 9B or through a PCBU applying under Section 12A.
- Section 9B allowed doctors to exempt individuals if vaccination was too dangerous or for other reasons. There were 8,259 applications under 9B and 6,410 were granted, mostly under part 9A (5600 for covid infection)
- Liz analyses her Mind Map (exemptions & Infringements) re the different exemption clauses and determined that Clause 7 didn't actually impact any New Zealand workers as COVID-19 is not a workplace disease, the OIA from WorkSafe makes that clear. They want to further discuss the exemptions with others to properly understand what happened from the perspective of the events.

2 - 00:10:19 - Section 7A originally allowed people to independently seek a vaccine exemption from their doctor. This was later revoked.
- Criteria 1A is mentioned as the criteria under which most people received exemptions. Exemptions under this lasted 100 days but could be reapplied for.
- Other exemption criteria included acute/moderate illness (2 exemptions granted), high dose immunosuppression (3 exemptions), adverse reaction to previous dose (48 exemptions), requirements for support during vaccination (14 exemptions), terminal illness (3 exemptions), and participation in a non-placebo vaccine trial.
- Many applications were rejected, such as those relating to pregnancy or allergies. 102 applied for cardiac conditions and 23 were granted. 155 applied for pre-existing conditions and 9 were granted.
- 125 applied for exemption after adverse reaction to first dose, 48 were granted under criteria 2A.
- Requests for information are deflected to appendices outlining the exemption criteria and process, including the panel that made exemption recommendations to the Director General of Health.

3 - 00:22:24 - Section 7A originally allowed independent doctor exemptions but was revoked. Criteria 1A is how most people received exemptions.
- Clause 8 allowed exemptions for those under 18 to do certain work. This was revoked on July 2nd 2022.
- Clause 9 also got revoked, which would have put pressure on bosses to accept unvaccinated workers.
- Clause 9A allowed the Director General (Bloomfield) to authorize exemptions for those with one dose, potentially with conditions like meeting future dose requirements.
- Clause 12A allowed PCBUs to apply for exemptions from order provisions for specified individuals, to promote health service purposes and prevent disruption.
- The Minister could grant 12A exemptions if promotion of health act purposes and minimal exemption scope. They considered work necessity and ability to delay/reassign.
- Granted 12A exemptions required the PCBU and individual to be informed in writing, including expiration date. Rejections may not have required notification.
- Liz wants to identify any health workers whose 12A exemption applications were rejected, to request their information from Bloomfield. They are also seeking details on Clause 9 exemptions that were granted.

4 - 00:39:28 - Breaches of clauses 7B and 11A were infringement offenses that could be enforced by WorkSafe and police.
- Ministry of Health alerted WorkSafe 8 times about unvaccinated healthcare workers continuing to work despite the vaccine order, citing significant public health risk.
- WorkSafe received no complaints of actual harm from exposure to unvaccinated healthcare workers. Breaches were recorded but did not indicate harm.
- Infringement offenses aimed to collect fines, not the exaggerated penalties claimed. WorkSafe lacked legal authority to collect fines under the Health Act. Scare tactics for compliance.
- Clause 8, Duties of relevant PCBUs in relation to vaccinations. Tactics to increase jabbing.
- Clause 11, Duties of affected person regarding vaccination records. Has not been repealed. - Enforcement officers.
- Clause 11A, Duties of relevant PCBUs of affected persons: vaccine records
- The Health and Safety at Work Act allows WorkSafe broad inspection powers to obtain workforce information for its regulatory functions.
- Section 168 HSWA 2015 allows WorkSafe to direct workplaces to produce information. Section 168 (4) HSWA prevents using health information without consent, but consent could be provided to access rejected exemption application details.
- Versions of the COVID orders on the legislation website can be viewed to see earlier iterations amended or revoked parts.
- WorkSafe has significant investigative powers that could potentially be utilized to access rejected exemption application information from the Ministry of Health or employers, with individual consent.

5 - 00:59:37 – Open chat – A member asks if people have seen reports about the 11,000+ secret exemptions and reaction on social media.
- Exemptions were granted by the Minister (Hipkins), not the Director-General. Their purpose was to exempt certain people, potentially with influence over the DG/Ministry.
- Exempted individuals saw adverse event reports but continued working, potentially committing deception or a criminal act.
- Discussion of how the vaccine order (Section 12A) only applied to healthcare workers, not police or military.
- The vaccines given were different processes than those tested, using E. coli cell lines to produce at large scale. This potentially explains why people had to wait after vaccination. They used a starter and that E coli is from a cell line from a person who died back in the 1960s with colon cancer. Poo jab in the arm :l
- Suggestion that doctors be questioned casually about whether they received exemptions, to gauge their reactions and spread awareness of the issue.
- Sean Plunkett is mentioned as a talkback host who previously expressed open opinions; someone should contact him about this topic.
- This section focuses on reactions to exemptions, legalities of the vaccine order, vaccine production processes, a proposed way to question doctors casually, and the possibility of engaging a media figure.

CONTENT LINKS

COVID-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Amendment Order 2021
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0182/latest/LMS519282.html

12A COVID-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Amendment Order 2021 - Power of Minister to grant exemptions
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0182/latest/LMS519345.html

Clause 13 Infringement offences - COVID-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Order 2021
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0094/latest/LMS487902.html#LMS487902

Clause 8, Duties of relevant PCBUs in relation to vaccinations - COVID-19 Public Health Response (Vaccinations) Order 2021
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0094/latest/LMS487895.html

Clause 11A, Duties of relevant PCBUs of affected persons: vaccine records
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2021/0094/latest/LMS580570.html

Section 168 (4) Health and Safety at Work Act 2015 - Powers of entry and inspection
(4) Despite subsection (1)(e), if all or any part of the information relates to a person’s health status and identifies the person, an inspector must not, without that person’s consent,—
(a) require the production of information; or
(b) examine the information; or
(c) make a copy of, or take an extract from, the information.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2015/0070/latest/DLM5977151.html