61 Cult Detox – The Gold Standard for Identifying Cults (Lifton’s 8-Point Framework)

I list the 8 requirement of what is a cult as defined by Robert J. Lifton in 1951 & as elaborated by Apostle Dr. Lee Ann Marino. Skip to 3:30 for pre-recorded talk with better sound. Only the live intro has low sound, which I was not aware of when recording.

0:00 – Intro to pre-recorded talk on cults & streaming problems
3:32 – Intro to defining what is a cult
5:55 – Cult vs cult of personality, Alt-Right/Trumpsters vs Alt-Left
8:19 – Intro to article by Christian author & minister Dr. Lee Ann B. Marino "What Makes A Cult A Cult" https://www.patheos.com/blogs/leadershiponfire/2023/08/what-makes-a-cult-a-cult/, see Live Show #22 on American vs. Hindu yoga
11:07 – Personal criteria to define cults vs modern scholarly cult study (see Live Show #62 for cult book recommendations)
14:37 – Robert J. Lifton's 8 points of defining a cult
17:40 – Cults are not just odd or not Christian or with a few points
21:44 – Cults are based on fact not opinion, cult members disconnect from outside world
26:09 – Manipulating spiritual experiences to match cult teachings, every member has the same experience
31:01 – Guru manifestations, purity of members based on donation amount, impossible standards of purity, member punishments
36:30 – Lying is okay, staying in cults to avoid acknowledging truth & growing spiritually
42:21 – Conformity to cult & prohibitions, traditional beliefs, loaded language
48:52 – End of world & survival of cult, breaking comfort zone
51:08 – How to save someone in a cult, reasons for joining cults, fake friendships in cult, lack of positive legacy of cult
1:00:49 – Dr. Lee Ann B. Marino's biography (Lee Ann's website: https://kingdompowernow.org/ & her podcast: https://anchor.fm/kingdompowernow along with other online podcast streaming sites)
1:02:04 – Closing thoughts

Originally broadcast 9/72023 but due to heavy video lag it was impossible to watch, so rebroadcast 9/9/2023 with intro & new video of my cat Fiona.

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