Matt Gaetz: The Swamps Revolving Door

Elliot Williams, a Democrat witness defending the FBI at the first Weaponization Subcommittee hearing, admits that he’s a partner at a lobbying firm that represents Pfizer, Google, and George Soros' Open Society.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Mr. Williams, Wouldn't the American people feel like this government wasn't so weaponized against them if there wasn't such a revolving door between Department of Justice senior officials and lobbying?

Elliott Williams: I don't quite follow the premise of your question, Sir.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: It's pretty easy. There's a revolving door between senior officials at the DOJ and the lobbying profession. Do you think that that gives the public more or less trust.

Elliott Williams: There are rules governing what employment, and this is a based on my understanding I've been governing for 15 years, what post-government employment can be. One, what individuals actions can be once they're employed elsewhere, but also what they're allowed to do.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Lobbying is Influence paddling and you are the principal at the Raven Group which is a lobbying firm, and I would observe the reporting of Project Veritas where Jordan Tristan Walker, who's a Director of Research and Development, said on a recording, "One of the things we're exploring is like why don't we just manipulate covid ourselves, mutate covid via directed evolution. Pfizer is a revolving door for all government officials. It's pretty good for industry to be honest, it's bad for everyone else in America.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Pfizer is one of the clients of the lobbying firm that you're a principal of isn't it?

Elliott Williams: I do not represent Pfizer. I do not know, Sir.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: You are a principal of the Raven Group, right?

Elliott Williams: No, that is correct. I assume so . . .

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Mr Chairman I seek unanimous consent to enter into the record the clients of the Raven Group which includes Pfizer.

Chairman Jim Jordan: Without objection.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Not just Pfizer, but Google as well and in response to The Twitter Files we saw a statement come from the FBI where they said correspondence from the FBI and Twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements. Are there such engagements between the FBI and Google?

Elliott Williams: When you say such engagement, Sir, I don't quite follow?

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Does Google engage with the FBI Mr. Williams?

Elliott Williams: I don't work for either Google or the FBI, Sir.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: Gosh, I have to again point you to your own client list that you advertise on your own website which includes Google. Does it surprise you that at the Raven Group's website Pfizer and Google are clients?

Elliott Williams: It does not surprise me, sir. no.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: The SOROs funded Open Society is one of the clients as well, does that surprise you?

Elliott Williams: Sir, I don't have our client list in front of me right now. I will uh, assuming that's what it says, I'll take your word for it.

Rep. Matt Gaetz: I would think that maybe one of the legislative initiatives we could pursue would be to tighten this revolving door that folks at Pfizer and folks at big tech seem to freely acknowledge, in which you seem to be the incarnate of the revolving door. Mr. Baker and Ms. Parker, I want to assure you both that we come not to trash the FBI, but to rescue the FBI from political capture.

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