A New Front In Russia/Ukraine Conflict | Kimberly St. Julian-Varnon | TMR

Sam and Emma speak to Kimberly St. Julian-Varnon, History Ph.D candidate at the University of Pennslyvania, to discuss the recent developments in the Russian/Ukraine conflict that have transpired since Friday.

Kimberly explains why, after the last time she was on the Majority Report in March of 2022, she isn’t surprised by how protracted the conflict has been, and emphasizes that, per her scholarship and research, that the United States is not the principle actor in the war, and that the U.S., particularly the Biden Administration, most likely would prefer a negotiated settlement so as to forestall conservative attacks on the amount of military aid going to Ukraine. They then dive into the complex web of associations between Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the mercenary Wagner Group, Sergei Shoigu, the head of the Russian army, and Valery Gerasimov, the head of the war effort in Ukraine, and why exactly Prigozhin took this moment to turn his forces back from Ukraine and into Russia, in order to briefly occupy the city of Rostov-on-Don, before negotiating with Vladimir Putin and Belarus’s Lukashenko to stand down and defect to Belarus. Sam and Emma ask Kimberly what she thinks is next going forward, whether Prigozhin can survive the mutiny attempt after the settlement with Putin, and what the end goals of any supposed rebellion like this would be for Prigozhin. Kimberly also warns against observers who see this as potentially the end of Putin’s leadership in Russia, noting that, due to the overwhelming control of state media in the country, it’s very hard to determine how much of this is actually getting through to the Russian public.

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