Fmr Uk Foreign Secretary on Restructuring the EU and the Philosophy of Cameron and Corbyn (EP 262)

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As the European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker is in Germany tomorrow as part of continuing concerns about a refugee catastrophe on the shores of the continent, we speak to the co-founder of the SDP and a former Labour foreign secretary, Lord Owen. And, on the day of David Cameron's conference speech, we talk to the Tories favourite philosopher, Roger Scruton about fools, frauds and firebrands. Plus, paying your national insurance? You may STILL not get your state pension.