Pursuing the "Real": INTERVIEW w/ Spencer Hess & Emily Larner, JPII Catholic Worker Farm (KCMO)
Also in this episode:
• Utopia? Or anti?
• The Catholic Worker Movement
• How to "build the kingdom"
• Spencer's podcast (with Dr. Laurie Johnson): Dustbowl Diatribes
• Catholic conversion
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0:00 Start
0:36 Origins of JPII Catholic Worker Farm, Spencer, and Emily
10:01 Hippies, Christians, farmers, and Michael Pollen
15:52 Spencer's journey to Catholicism
18:00 The biggest challenge for organic farming
27:30 Spencer's failed farm ideas
28:27 Where the interest in Catholic Worker Farms came from
40:54 Why Catholicism? And how Spencer & Emily met
43:41 Emily's background
44:53 Spencer and Emily
45:59 An aside on Mormonism
46:56 The jump to Catholicism and the Catholic Worker Movement
53:48 Goals of the JPII Catholic Worker Farm
58:26 Spencer's podcast (with Dr. Laurie Johnson): Dustbowl Diatribes
1:06:44 Anti-utopian dreams (and anti-uniformity)
1:12:53 Understanding "building the Kingdom of God"
1:15:15 Is the vague-ness of Catholic Social Teaching good?
1:30:48 The "dustbowl" of modernity
1:33:19 Global warming, doomerism, growing your own food, and cities
1:48:01 Summarizing our thoughts: pursuing the "real"
1:49:16 Outro
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Links:
Dustbowl Diatribes with Dr. Laurie Johnson & Spencer Hess:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsLkfggTCOx_cZ2WLSL-mRfrizC89Ln4k
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