Boldly Proclaiming Sexual Freedom: Stephen Black Interview

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I'm excited to present this conversation with Stephen Black, director of First Stone Ministries! First Stone was one of the original ministries that formed Exodus International, and Stephen was instrumental in calling out the waywardness of the last Exodus leaders and helping start Restored Hope Network. He boldly speaks out about his own freedom and the dangers of trending teachings in the church.

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For more about Stephen and First Stone Ministries:
Stephen's YouTube channel (livestreaming every Friday morning): https://www.youtube.com/@UCCmzH3yoL40wP6O6vSddFJQ
First Stone Ministries in Oklahoma City, OK: https://www.firststone.org/
Stephen H. Black. (2017). Freedom Realized: Finding Freedom from Homosexuality and Living a Life Free from Labels. Enumclaw, WA: Redemption. (Includes the First Stone Effectiveness Survey results.)
American Family Studios. (2020). In His Image: Delighting in God's Plan for Gender and Sexuality (documentary). https://www.youtube.com/@inhisimagemovie8657/featured
Pure Passion Media. (2014). Such Were Some of You (documentary). https://youtu.be/VKSFPdyH8x4
Laura Perry. (2019). Transgender to Transformed: A Story of Transition that Will Truly Set You Free. Bartlesville, OK: Genesis.
M.D. Perkins. (2022). Dangerous Affirmation: The Threat of "Gay Christianity". Tupelo, MS: American Family Association. (Stephen wrote the forward.)

Other parts in this series of Ex-Gay Veterans:
Prologue to this series: https://youtu.be/jomWkn0kkvA
Joe Dallas interview: https://youtu.be/c5ks84kJz6U
Wynn Thompson interview: https://youtu.be/4Wdx8LkxBn8
Michael Newman interview: https://youtu.be/wVO8EDlKhiE
Garry Ingraham interview: https://youtu.be/2LtVqgsu7a0

For more on topics discussed:
Andrew Comiskey's review of Jesus Revolution (with insights on Lonnie Frisbee's sexuality): https://www.andrewcomiskey.com/post/beachhead-review-of-jesus-revolution
My video of my interview on Stephen's channel: https://youtu.be/NsxlEpRmlDo
4 Different Views in the Church on Homosexuality: https://youtu.be/SDGkLPWBKbo
My response to Netflix's Pray Away documentary: part 1: https://youtu.be/wrCZqCrwag8
Part 2: https://youtu.be/xvkWUoEpKkA
Christian Critics of Ex-Gay Ministry Part 1 (Renounce/Mortification): https://youtu.be/hdac4O06Q4c
Part 2 (Side B/Resist/Accommodation): https://youtu.be/QKdc6gugPuM
Part 3 (Why there are Christian critics): https://youtu.be/E-TkLkwq1HM
Part 4 (The case for transformational ex-gay ministry): https://youtu.be/59M7bTUWhNw
The Truth about Ex-Gay Ministries: Hope 2018 Reflection: https://youtu.be/kft1vFGMtfM

Timestamps:
00:00:38 - Stephen's story.
00:06:46 - About First Stone Ministries.
00:09:44 - History of First Stone and Exodus.
00:12:21 - Church was not well-equipped for homosexuality.
00:15:14 - Spiritual ABS for healing and growth.
00:19:33 - Getting involved in First Stone.
00:22:40 - Involvement in Exodus.
00:27:00 - How First Stone grew and changed over time.
00:30:45 - Disputing Alan Chambers' claim that 99.9% of people don't change.
00:34:03 - Naming opposition in the church against ex-gay ministry.
00:41:09 - The First Stone Effectiveness Survey.
00:45:46 - Defining change.
00:47:33 - Changes in the SSA population over time (porn replacing molestation in childhood).
00:52:44 - Other results (about sexual addiction).
00:54:25 - Where's ministry going?
00:57:30 - Where's the church heading? Heresy of Side B.
01:04:26 - Freedom Realized.
01:07:24 - The future of ex-gay ministries.
01:12:12 - Most effective guidance for strugglers (mourning losses, renewing the mind).
01:18:14 - Forgiveness and gratitude.
01:21:11 - Books and videos.

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