23 - Working with doctors, in a male-dominated profession, & learning to say "No", w/ Olivia Dacre

I am joined this week by Olivia Dacre, an experienced healthcare executive who is currently the CFO of the Medical Group portion of Bon Secours Mercy Health. She talks me through her approach to working with physicians and explains what exactly a "Medical Group CFO" does. How to pick a physician. Her perspective on being a woman in a professional area historically predominantly made up of men. And how she's worked to get better at saying "No", a sometimes key element of being a CFO.

I hope you enjoy our discussion.

Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:15 What is a medical group CFO?
04:05 Doctors as employees and why is it happening?
09:48 Advice to patients on picking a doctor
15:01 What yields a good relationship with doctors?
17:09 Saying "No" to a physician
20:47 Coming from a physician family
23:36 How'd you get started on a finance track?
25:11 Working in a male-dominated professional area
32:32 Is finance becoming more gender-balanced?
35:07 Advice to those thinking of a non-clinical healthcare career
39:03 How do you manage the scale of your responsibilities?
46:56 CFO or CF-No?
50:40 Advice to get better at "No"
56:43 Outro

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