Zelensky and Trump – history

Zelensky and Trump – history
By Terry A. Hurlbut
Yesterday afternoon, Twitter User WarClandestine dropped yet another thread, this time about Donald J. Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky. The thread lasts for only ten tweets, but in it WarClandestine clearly shows that the Russian “special military operation” in Ukraine need never have happened. Trump gave Zelensky a choice, and he made it. Unfortunately for him and the world, Zelensky chose the worldwide Deep State.
Zelensky and Trump – a backgrounder
Recall that Donald Trump called Volodymyr Zelensky on July 25, 2019. During that call, Trump pressed Zelensky on the revelations about Joe Biden and his son Hunter. That call occasioned the first impeachment of Trump by the House of Representatives, then under Democratic Party control. (The Republicans still controlled the Senate, and in any event conviction on impeachment requires two thirds of the Senators present.) On September 24, 2019, the White House released a transcript. CNN published it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBXnmMf9IU4
The very next day (September 25), Trump and Zelensky met face-to-face in New York City.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLAdt7K9LpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdiW9k7Qm7Q
Trump spoke glowingly of Zelensky – but not so glowingly of the corruption problem in Ukraine. The younger man had run for election on an anti-corruption platform. In a key moment, Trump specifically suggested that Zelensky confer with Vladimir Putin of Russia to “solve his problem.”
The problem, as WarClandestine touched on in an earlier thread, is that Barack Obama had systematically set up Deep State oligarchs to control everything worth controlling in Ukraine. Trump made no secret of his concern, and spoke openly about it. But perhaps Zelensky didn’t see it as a problem – just as he did nothing about Hunter Biden’s corrupt business dealings.
Yesterday afternoon, WarClandestine brought the subject up again.
The thread
This thread is relatively short – these even numbers make five tweets. But they are loaded with video snippets and images of key documents.
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621592293630173185
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621592573109215236
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621592974420283393
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621593470023376897
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621593646733660160
Reaction came relatively swiftly. Some accused Russia of corruption – but others asked those accusers to present facts to back up their claims.
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621623733067685893
https://twitter.com/EllisJeellis/status/1621635422462873600
Not one user disputed WarClandestine’s description of the meeting. Many users commented on Zelensky’s “uncomfortable” appearance.
https://twitter.com/DanielleThinks7/status/1621594722832637952
https://twitter.com/TheGrkSituation/status/1621635624896811011
Some people will never believe anything against the legacy media. But one user took another to task over whether Zelensky was telling the truth.
https://twitter.com/SassiAndClassi/status/1621599320884609025
https://twitter.com/SassiAndClassi/status/1621613403377729539
https://twitter.com/SassiAndClassi/status/1621615207867944960
https://twitter.com/KhaleddTarawneh/status/1621624672331653129
Along that line, came this from yet another user:
https://twitter.com/summerblu/status/1621631169325301762
This user shared another YouTube video giving further evidence of the corruption Zelensky seems to have tolerated.
https://twitter.com/Michell43925745/status/1621608522625552385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9UeSHWEHQ
Analysis
This thread reminds us all to put the first Trump impeachment into perspective. Clearly Trump was getting too close to the situation Barack Obama created in Ukraine. So the Democratic House impeached Trump – but, of course, did not succeed in removing him.
But WarClandestine suggests something else, something CNAV has heard from other sources. Namely that Trump and Vladimir Putin are allied on one issue above all: breaking the power of the Deep State. Recall that Putin, in 2016, canceled an overseas trip and put his country on alert. Recall also that Putin suggested that his people arm themselves – as he has done before. Dictators do not want their people armed. But confident leaders do, recognizing that an armed citizenry is the last line of defense. And also this maxim:
An armed society is a polite society.
Robert A. Heinlein
Did SARS-CoV-2 force Putin’s hand? No. The defeat of Trump forced his hand. Perhaps, had Trump won, Zelensky would have made a different choice. And perhaps those old Soviet laboratories, that the U.S. government alleged were now threat-reduction laboratories, would have ceased to be. But Zelensky stuck with the oligarchs, with the results we all know.
Link to:
The article:
https://cnav.news/2023/02/04/editorial/talk/zelensky-trump-history/

The July call transcript and Wall Street Journal video:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBXnmMf9IU4

Video of face-to-face meeting (CBS, then ABC):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLAdt7K9LpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdiW9k7Qm7Q

The thread:
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621592293630173185
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621592573109215236
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621592974420283393
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621593470023376897
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621593646733660160

The reaction:
https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1621623733067685893
https://twitter.com/EllisJeellis/status/1621635422462873600
https://twitter.com/DanielleThinks7/status/1621594722832637952
https://twitter.com/TheGrkSituation/status/1621635624896811011
https://twitter.com/SassiAndClassi/status/1621599320884609025
https://twitter.com/SassiAndClassi/status/1621613403377729539
https://twitter.com/SassiAndClassi/status/1621615207867944960
https://twitter.com/KhaleddTarawneh/status/1621624672331653129
https://twitter.com/summerblu/status/1621631169325301762
https://twitter.com/Michell43925745/status/1621608522625552385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9UeSHWEHQ

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