"Force The Vote" Nonsense Just Refuses Die

Why are we still rehashing "Force the Vote"?

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Dal band: Since Libertarians haven't been calling in can you do a call out for doorknobs to come on and debate? I welcome anybody to come in and debate at any time. the phones are open. I mean not right at this moment. but when they're open we're open. And if anybody wants to come on and they want to particularly debate they should I am I should tweet at you know Matt or me and give your area code we'll pull you out of the line. Everybody knows that. everybody knows it. Like any like the there any of that ilk regardless of who it is when they like they will people try and pick a fight and I'm like they are they have open door policy here. Anybody wants to discuss anything with me but a lot of times it's much easier for people to have a one-sided argument. when yeah where they can lie about the chronology. They can lie about the chronology. They can lie about the argument. They can lie about all this stuff. and just have an open field. Like nobody who thinks that they were right remembers the dispute Sirota had when he's like hey I think we should widen maybe the asks out if we're going to use this. That happened with Stoler too. Right exactly. And people act like that stuff never existed. The FTV people Dore and everybody else didn't want to take yes for an answer. Oh I mean look the only time I had any type of real discussion about the actually forced vote. There were two occasions, one was when, like early in December, I think it was when I said this is a good idea. I don't know about the ask to force a vote on Medicare for all because it's gonna lose. And their strategy was this and this is the dumbest thing in the world we're going to figure out who's going to vote against Medicare for all. Now you can see who co-sponsored the bill. Yeah, so you can get at least a very good idea you know all 215 or 212 Republicans are going to vote against it. And you can guess that of the hundred who didn't co-sponsor the bill they're going to be opponents of it too. Including Nancy Pelosi for that matter.