The Fall Into Meta-Consciousness | with Bernardo Kastrup (More Christ)

This is a repost of my second conversation with Bernardo Kastrup on the More
Christ channel and podcast. We take time to discuss the question of different
levels and kinds of consciousness, touching on agency, meta-consciousness,
spontaneous (“unconscious”) intelligence, intuition VS conscious effort, the
boundaries of identity, interpersonal beings and team dynamics. Towards the
end of the conversation we tie some of this in with the Genesis narrative.
Original video: Episode 88: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup 2: Consciousness,
Meta-Consciousness, God, and Morality:
[https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6A](https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6A?t=0) My previous
discussion with Bernardo Kastrup: Episode 75: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo
Kastrup: Orthodoxy, Resurrecting the Western Mind, Body & Soul:
[https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk](https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk?t=0) =============
Timestamps: [00:00:00](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=0) \- Coming up next...
[00:01:04](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=64) \- Intro music
[00:01:30](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=90) \- Introducing the guests
[00:02:05](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=125) \- Reflecting on their last
conversation [00:04:42](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=282) \- The continuity
of identity [00:07:30](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=450) \- John Vervaeke:
Agency VS Consciousness [00:09:38](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=578) \-
Attributing private inner consciousness
[00:17:27](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=1047) \- Team dynamics
[00:25:53](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=1553) \- Is top-down more
fundamental than bottom-up? [00:30:24](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=1824) \-
Illusions below [00:35:46](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=2146) \- The
boundaries of identity [00:43:01](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=2581) \- The
angels serve Man [00:47:00](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=2820) \- Where are
angels and demons? [00:52:12](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=3132) \- Back to
the problem of multiplicity [00:57:27](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=3447) \-
True contradictions [01:03:22](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=3802) \-
"Unconscious"/Spontaneous intelligence
[01:13:01](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=4381) \- Drugs and trauma
[01:18:53](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=4733) \- Are other beings also meta-
conscious? [01:21:00](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=4860) \- The story of
Genesis [01:24:22](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=5062) \- What is meta-
consciousness? [01:30:47](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=5447) \- Meta-
consciousness in the Genesis narrative
[01:38:42](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=5922) \- Moral responsibility
[01:46:51](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=6411) \- The Fall into meta-
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