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Platonist and Orthodox Images | with Dr. Wolfgang Smith (The Meaning Code)
This is a repost of a discussion I had on The Meaning Code YouTube channel and
podcast with Karen Wong, Dr. Richard Smith and Dr. Wolfgang Smith. The
majority of this discussion was about bringing my and Wolfgang's work
together. He is a scholar and researcher in the fields of mathematics and
physics, but he is also a writer on theology, metaphysics, and religion. We
discuss both our work and how they connect, sacred art, geometry, the
Renaissance, materialism, perennialism, sacrifice, measurement, the continuity
of identity and much more. Original interview: The Meaning Code - Jonathan
Pageau /Wolfgang Smith: The Coexistence of Multiplicity & Unity: Symbolism of
the Cross: [https://youtu.be/WMZLHhjIsHk](https://youtu.be/WMZLHhjIsHk?t=0)
Books mentioned: Wolfgang's books (selected out of a long list) -The Vertical
Ascent \- The Quantum Enigma \- Cosmos and Transcendence \- Ancient Wisdom and
Modern Misconceptions The new physics by Stephen Wolfram:
[https://wolframphysics.org](https://wolframphysics.org/) ==================
Timestamps: [00:00:00](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=0) \- Coming up next...
[00:01:23](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=83) \- Intro music
[00:01:47](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=107) \- Start
[00:02:48](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=168) \- Introducing the guests
[00:06:16](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=376) \- Introduction to the
discussion [00:07:00](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=420) \- Dr. Smith's
Tripartite Cosmos (Platonist) icon
[00:12:44](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=764) \- Jonathan's question about
the image [00:13:45](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=825) \- Platonic geometry
and time [00:17:13](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1033) \- The 3 parts of
this image [00:19:28](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1168) \- Making this
image 3D [00:20:42](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1242) \- Applications in
Christianity [00:23:26](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1406) \- Spatial
relationships between icons [00:26:25](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1585) \-
Icons showing simultaneity [00:28:24](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1704) \-
Jonathan's "Images of Everything"
[00:32:54](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=1974) \- The intended impact of
these images [00:35:43](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2143) \- St. Peter
saved by Christ [00:37:38](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2258) \- Jonathan's
style of carving [00:38:37](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2317) \- The icon
of Jonah [00:39:19](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2359) \- Divine darkness
[00:40:54](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2454) \- A hostile relationship
between center and periphery [00:42:04](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2524)
\- Is there anything above the aeviternal realm?
[00:44:32](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2672) \- Materialism and the mystery
of the Cross [00:49:39](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=2979) \- Perennialism
and the Vedic tradition [00:57:45](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=3465) \-
Measurement and sacrifice [01:00:30](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=3630) \-
Transcending the dichotomy [01:04:58](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=3898) \-
Measurement and identity [01:11:21](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=4281) \- AI
and self-driving cars [01:13:42](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=4422) \-
Coherence of identity over time
[01:18:57](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=4737) \- Obstacles as the gift
[01:21:24](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=4884) \- Iconographers in the
Orthodox Church [01:24:23](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=5063) \- Catholic
sacred art [01:27:13](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=5233) \- The Renaissance
and perspective in sacred art [01:30:12](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=5412)
\- Wolfgang's work [01:33:27](https://youtu.be/5M69BNWFcXQ?t=5607) \-
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