John Loken- Galatians 3:1 & Eusebius Updates
John Loken joins me to present his case against Galatians 3:1 for the Shroud and also in favour of his Eusebius text on the Abgar legend.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/06/05/shroud-wars-panel-review-summary-show-parts-2a-2d/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Hvwn2AD2Y
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/John-Loken--Galatians-31--Eusebius-Updates-e2desu9
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Shroud Wars: Medical Expert Dr. Gilbert Lavoie
Dr. Gilbert Lavoie shares his expertise as a medical expert on the Shroud Man's anatomy and bloodstains and discusses his own theory that the Shroud Man was vertically upright and levitating at the time the body images were encoded. Lots of great info in this episode with one of the "greats" of Pro-Shroud research!
Dr. Lavoie's New Book = https://www.amazon.com/Shroud-Jesus-Sign-Ingeniously-Concealed/dp/1644138867/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=gngBJ&content-id=amzn1.sym.cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_p=cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_r=137-8580107-5101318&pd_rd_wg=r5t9j&pd_rd_r=81ff78aa-934c-4fa5-ae5f-76620ee9c0a6&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/12/15/shroud-wars-dr-gilbert-lavoies-the-shroud-of-jesus/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84vDxJba5FE
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Shroud-Wars-Medical-Expert-Dr–Gilbert-Lavoie-e2da5gs
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Messianic Prophecies-“Jesus or Bust: An Argument from Extraordinary Circumstances (on “1P3” Podcast)
I (Dale) guest star on Luis Dizon’s “1P3” segment of the Reason and Theology Podcast to outline my own nuanced version of an argument from Messianic Prophecies whereby I argue that a unique set of circumstances arises with either the “bona fide” unfalsified claims about Jesus being a viable Messianic candidate are true or else no one is the Jewish Messiah (i.e., the “Bust” option) obtains.
I argue this is a rather “extraordinary” circumstance as it is unique despite there being ample opportunity for others to equally qualify based on their own claims and/or in other religions for a similar situation to arise such as in Islam, which claims many Biblical prophecies about Muhammed; unfortunately we see that Islam fails to establish a “Muhammed or Bust” circumstance where as Jesus does so!
RSM Blog (with my Slide Presentation and Helpful Scholarly sources included) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/12/14/messianic-prophecies-jesus-or-bust-an-argument-from-extraordinary-circumstances-on-reason-theologys-1p3-podcast/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbz2GITpWD8
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Messianic-Prophecies-Jesus-or-Bust-An-Argument-from-Extraordinary-Circumstances-on-1P3-Podcast-e2d7lao
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Axiology of Theism W/Special Guest Dale Glover!
Join us as we discuss Dale’s presentation on the Axiology of Theism; If God exists, is that more or less valuable than Atheism?
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQadoavg9U
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Axiology-of-Theism-WSpecial-Guest-Dale-Glover-e2d1ehm
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New Shroud of Turin Podcast- Skeptic Oliver Pearce's Ignotus Channel (Dale Guest Stars)
I was invited onto the brand new Shroud skeptic YouTube channel called the "Ignotus Channel" with Oliver Pearce. We cover various issues including the 1988 C-14 Dating, the bloodstains, the Limestone Dust findings and textile studies.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8yFK6f1Oc
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/New-Shroud-of-Turin-Podcast--Skeptic-Oliver-Pearces-Ignotus-Channel-Dale-Guest-Stars-e2cqh9o
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Can God Lie?- Discussion with Dale Glover & Phil Bair
Phil Bair returns to discuss with Dale Glover whether it is logically possible for God to tell a lie. Dale will be arguing the affirmative position and Phil the negative. Enjoy :)
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOPIeZZcaCE
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Can-God-Lie---Discussion-with-Dale-Glover--Phil-Bair-e2cobp3
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Personal Testimonies- Carolyn Weber & Me (Edited by Harry Stark)
This is another fan requested video as Harry Stark, edited my personal testimony show on Reason & Theology and improved the visuals and shortened the length as well he provided me with an edited version of Carolyn Weber's conversion testimony from the Unbelievable show and I provide my own commentary.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/11/25/my-testimony-from-agnostic-to-christian-dale-guest-stars-on-reason-theology-podcast/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ajB3r_Hou4
Audio Only = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Personal-Testimonies–Carolyn-Weber–Me-Edited-by-Harry-Stark-e2chnff
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My Testimony: From Agnostic to Christian (Dale Guest Stars on Reason & Theology Podcast)
I was asked to guest star on Michael Loftus' "Reason and Theology" podcast for the 1P3 segment with Luis Dizon. I gave my own personal testimony on the intellectual arguments and evidences, as well as my methodology, for how I went from Agnostic to Bible-believing Christian.
RSM Blog (with my PowerPoint Slide Presentation) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/11/25/my-testimony-from-agnostic-to-christian-dale-guest-stars-on-reason-theology-podcast/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lijNPylqVE0
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/My-Testimony-From-Agnostic-to-Christian-Dale-Guest-Stars-on-Reason–Theology-Podcast-e2ccu0v
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Shroud Panel Review Summary (Part 2B2)- The Early Years Condensed (30-500 A.D.)
Some in the Pro-Shroud crowd have mentioned that my previous Panel Review Summary show was too long (4.5 hours) and so I wanted to provide this summarized and condensed 30 min version of the show for people.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/06/05/shroud-wars-panel-review-summary-show-parts-2a-2d/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftt12H3qLMU
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Shroud-Panel-Review-Summary-Part-2B2–The-Early-Years-Condensed-30-500-A-D-e2c7esk
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Shroud Panel Review (Part 9)- Proto Photo & Shadow Hypotheses
Shroud skeptic Hugh Farey joins me to discuss Nicholas Allen's Proto-Photo and Nathan D. Wilson's Shadow image-forming hypotheses. While, Hugh is a Shroud skeptic regarding the Shroud in general, nevertheless he takes a "Pro-Shroud" position with respect to the validity of these two Shroud skeptical mechanisms. Finally, we also briefly discuss Picknett and Prince's absurd notion that the Shroud Man's images were made by Leonardo Davinci.
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/11/18/shroud-wars-panel-review-part-9-the-proto-photo-shadow-hypotheses/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkU7MWJzT24
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Shroud-Panel-Review-Part-9--Proto-Photo--Shadow-Hypotheses-e2c3vf2
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Shroud Wars: Panel Review Summary Show (Part 2B)- The Early Years (30-500 A.D.)
In this rather long episode (due to updates and corrections in my knowledge), I go over all of the textual and archeological evidence we have for the existence of the Shroud of Turin's images from 30 A.D. to 500 A.D.
I assess two Pro-Shroud hypotheses; Ian Wilson's Image of Edessa/Mandylion theory and its use of the Abgar Legend in ancient Edessa and compare that with Jack Markwardt's Image of God Incarnate theory and Jack's notion of the Shroud having been in ancient Antioch for the first 5 centuries. Finally, I also assess the Shroud skeptic's hypothesis that all texts from this period must be referring to something other than Shroud images.
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/06/05/shroud-wars-panel-review-summary-show-parts-2a-2d/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TAfP8Rhct0
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Shroud-Wars-Panel-Review-Summary-Show-Part-2B--The-Early-Years-30-500-A-D-e2bum7q
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The Shroud & the New Testament (with Larry Stalley and SJ Thomason)
Continuing on with my Shroud series on SJ Thomason's channel, I invited Bible expert, Larry Stalley, to come on and address the texts of the New Testament that he believes are cryptic references to the Shroud images. Additionally, we also address 4 skeptical Bible-based objections to the Shroud of Turin (no explicit mentions, John mentions multiple strips/cloths, Isaiah 52:14 failed Messianic prophecy and 1 Cor 11- no long hair).
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/04/22/shroud-wars-panel-review-part-5-the-bible-the-shroud-larry-stalley-ben-witherington/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o48y-k-eJIk
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/The-Shroud–the-New-Testament-with-Larry-Stalley-and-SJ-Thomason-e2bppn6
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Experts Balk at David Falk: Refuting a Skeptical Egyptologist's View of the Shroud of Turin
Christian Egyptologist, Dr. David Falk, has chosen to weigh in on the Shroud debate and make a short 20 min video outlining his reasons for thinking the Shroud is a Byzantine painting dating sometime before the 4th Crusade in 1204 A.D. in Constantinople.
Interestingly, I was part of his motivation for his doing so and so I take it as my responsibility to refute the 4-5 substantive points he makes as to why the Shroud is not historically authentic as Jesus' burial shroud.
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/11/08/experts-balk-at-david-falk-refuting-a-skeptical-egyptologists-view-of-the-shroud-of-turin/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKWKhmxMg5k
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Experts-Balk-at-David-Falk-Refuting-a-Skeptical-Egyptologists-View-of-the-Shroud-of-Turin-e2bljme
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Grand Finale on Spiritual Abuse (with Jaime Castro, David Johnson & Tyler Fowler)
Here is the Grand Finale on spiritual abuse- we cover lessons learned from the Jim Jones cult and also the phases of spiritual abuse.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPmICvkS7_s
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Grand-Finale-on-Spiritual-Abuse-with-Jaime-Castro--David-Johnson--Tyler-Fowler-e2bfudh
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Molinism Discussion- (with Tyler Vela & Dale Glover as Guest)
I was a guest on Tyler Vela's podcast to discuss the Molinism via the Libertarian freewill vs. Compatibilism debate from a philosophical perspective. Enjoy!
RSM Blog= https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/11/06/molinism-discussion-with-tyler-vela-dale-glover-as-guest/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ki01VRGdfQ
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Molinism-Discussion--with-Tyler-Vela--Dale-Glover-as-Guest-e2bfv8q
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Guy Powell: Applying the "MRF Approach" to the Shroud (Dale as Guest)
I guest starred on Guy Powell's Podcast to go over an illustration of the application of my "MRF Approach" for assessing various Shroud image forming mechanisms.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/10/06/reason-theology-the-truth-about-the-shroud-of-turin-w-dale-glover-and-luis-dizon/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvfON9ceta0
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Guy-Powell-Applying-the-MRF-Approach-to-the-Shroud-Dale-as-Guest-e2b40d9
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SJ Thomason & Walter McCrone's Traditional Painting Hypothesis
In this video, Dale and SJ will explore the traditional painting hypothesis, which was proposed by Walter McCrone from a scientific perspective.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/30/shroud-wars-panel-review-part-8-mrfs-the-painting-hypothesis/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpLjPcDyjXg
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/SJ-Thomason--Walter-McCrones-Traditional-Painting-Hypothesis-e2auk6k
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When Churches Become Cult-Like: Differentiating Church from Cult
Unfortunately, for the past couple months I have been wrapped up in an Investigation Committee investigating some allegations as to potential spiritual abuses by my former Pastor at my old church, Midland Park. That investigation has now concluded and I wanted to share some generalized and helpful lessons from my own experiences attending that church and what I learned from the investigation process.
Atheist and former Church of Christ member David Johnson, along with David Russell, Dr. Tony Costa and Jamie Castro all join me to discuss how we tell the difference between a Bible-believing Pastor and healthy church environment vs. a cult leader in a toxic cult-like gathering masquerading as a church. The truth is not always as clear cut as one might hope and there are often gray zones involved.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsmz7rypGKU
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/When-Churches-Become-Cult-Like-Differentiating-Church-from-Cult-e2asn0a
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Harry Stark- Bart Ehrman & the Laws of Nature
Harry Stark returns to critique Bart Ehrman's foolish take on the Laws of Nature.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
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Interviewing Jaime Castro- Cults, Apologetics & Disabled Theology
My friend Jaime Castro joins me to discuss his ministry related to spiritual abuses in cult-like churches, his take on apologetics and his ministry involving Disabled theology for people and Christians with various disabilities.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tm4Ku4GLD8
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Interviewing-Jaime-Castro--Cults--Apologetics--Disabled-Theology-e2aio3s
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Tricia Brendel- Heart Beat of God's Love
Special guest Patricia Brendel has a new book out, Heart Beat of Love, where she outlines some of her own life's hardships and how she discovered God's love and what it means through these painful experiences.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLksVds3LBU
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Tricia-Brendel–Heart-Beat-of-Gods-Love-e2ahnn5
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Shroud Wars: Interviewing Helmut Felzmann
Dr. Helmut Felzmann is Pro-Shroud in terms of historicity but believes in a naturalistic gas diffusion theory to explain the Shroud images. He also gives his view that Jesus swooned on the cross was revived by the Essenes and then left for India.
He believes that Christianity has been taken over by Paul who differed form the Apostles on Jesus death for our sins and Resurrection from the dead. He also argues that religions need to be reformed to reflect a more universal religion of consciousness and love.
** My apologies for the lack of Live show today and bad video quality (bad even by my own lax standards- we had technical difficulties and so my usual Podcasting set up didn't work). **
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/16/real-seekers-shows-sept-dec-2023/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwuTTTpdk88
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Shroud-Wars-Interviewing-Helmut-Felzmann-e2aggh4
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Discussing the Resurrection Appearances (w/ David Kemball-Cook)
Open Theist David Kemball-Cook returns to discuss with me his thoughts on the evidence for Jesus' Resurrection.
RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/10/07/discussing-the-resurrection-w-david-kemball-cook/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQmHMWG2OrA
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Discussing-the-Resurrection-Appearances-w-David-Kemball-Cook-e2a9k3e
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Reason & Theology: The Truth About the Shroud of Turin w/ Dale Glover and Luis Dizon
Is the Shroud of Turin really the burial cloth of Jesus after his crucifixion? Dale Glover and Luis Dizon join Reason & Theology to discuss the matter with a detailed presentation!
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/10/06/reason-theology-the-truth-about-the-shroud-of-turin-w-dale-glover-and-luis-dizon/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6va21mvBE4
Reason & Theology YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCHIVo8vDYY&t=2s
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Reason–Theology-The-Truth-About-the-Shroud-of-Turin-w-Dale-Glover-and-Luis-Dizon-e2a84mj
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Shroud Wars: Panel Review (Part 8)- "MRF's" & the Painting Hypothesis
he Shroud Wars Panel Review shows are back! We are now shifting gears to review the Shroud from a scientific perspective. In this installment I'm joined by Pro-Shroud experts Joe Marino and Mark Antonacci alongside infamous Shroud skeptic Hugh Farey to discuss the physical and chemical properties of the Shroud's body and bloodstain images and how those relate to Walter McCrone's traditional Painting image-formation hypothesis.
RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2023/09/30/shroud-wars-panel-review-part-8-mrfs-the-painting-hypothesis/
YouTube Video = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb44PEH6qaY
Audio Only Link = https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/real-seeker-ministries/episodes/Shroud-Wars-Panel-Review-Part-8–MRFs–the-Painting-Hypothesis-e2a09d0
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