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On March 30th, 2024 Counterspin Media presents its epic 12-hour streaming Truthathon event, running from 12 noon to midnight. This is not just another information session: it's a battle cry for humanity against the dark forces threatening our future - the New World Order and their sinister plans for the Great Reset This event will be a hard-hitting, no-nonsense journey through the most confronting and controversial information available, delivered with Counterspin's signature style of facts and evidence based journalistic integrity. Join co-hosts Kelvyn Alp and Hannah Spierer as they take you on an unforgettable journey through time, exposing the truth behind these nefarious schemes From the New World Order's United Nations to the WEF, the WHO, WTO to the IMF, and all the other 3 letter NGO's, we'll dive deep into the heart of darkness to reveal how far humanity has fallen and what it will take to reclaim our destiny. The Great Awakening is here, but only if we stand shoulder to shoulder against the dark forces that seek to suppress it. We can do it, and with a lineup of world-class guests and contributors, Counterspin Media brings you the truth and solutions like never before. Don't miss this opportunity to be part of history - join us on Easter Saturday for an event that will change your life forever! For the latest schedule please go here: https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/resources-videos/truthathon-conquering-darkness/

The is a pre-event warm up and test stream for COunterspin Media's Truthathon On March 30th, 2024, Counterspin Media presents its epic 12-hour live streaming Truthathon event, running from 12 noon to midnight. This is not just another information session; it's a battle cry for humanity against the dark forces threatening our future - the New World Order and their sinister plans for the Great Reset. This event will be a hard-hitting, no-nonsense journey through the most confronting and controversial information available, delivered with Counterspin’s signature style of facts and evidence based journalistic integrity. Join co-hosts Kelvyn Alp and Hannah Spierer as they take you on an unforgettable journey through time, exposing the truth behind these nefarious schemes. From the New World Order's United Nations to the WEF, the WHO, WTO to the IMF, and all the other 3 letter NGOs, we'll dive deep into the heart of darkness to reveal how far humanity has fallen and what it will take to reclaim our destiny. The Great Awakening is here, but only if we stand shoulder to shoulder against the dark forces that seek to suppress it. We can do it, and with a lineup of world-class guests and contributors, Counterspin Media brings you the truth and solutions like never before. Don't miss this opportunity to be part of history - join us on Easter Saturday for an event that will change your life forever! Program Highlights: Featuring well renowned guests...with more to come! * 1215hrs – Mike Bee, Counterspin Writer and Poet * 1230hrs - Kym Staton, Filmmaker 'The Last Fall' Assange Movie (AU) * 1300hrs - Maria Zeee, Journalist Zeee Media (AU) * 1400hrs - Aussie Cossack, Journalist (AU) * 1500hrs - William Bisset, Director of Brilin Clinic (NZ) * 1600hrs - David Holden, Naturopath & Nutritional Biochemist (NZ) * 1630hrs - Operation Good Oil (OPO), CAFE (Collective Action for Energy Security) (NZ) * 1700hrs - Samantha Costello, Journalist - Barry Young, Whistleblower (NZ) * 1800hrs - Dr Mark Bailey, Author – The Final Pandemic: An Antidote to Medical Tyranny (NZ) * 1900hrs - Greg Reese, Journalist (US) * 2000hrs - Sasha Latypova, Pharmaceutical Executive (US) * 2100hrs - Dr Sucharit Bhakdi, Microbiologist (GER) * 2200hrs – Mike Quinn, Challenging Councils NZ * 2230hrs – Johnny Vedmore, TNT Radio Host Subject to change For updated information please visit : https://counterspinmedia.com/blog/resources-videos/truthathon-conquering-darkness/

In this episode, Samantha Costello (formerly Samantha Edwards) reports from the New Zealand First Party's "State of the Nation" speech delivered by Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters in Palmerston North on March 17th, 2024. Samantha was joined at the event by Health New Zealand jab data whistleblower Barry Young and his partner Cathy. During the meeting, Samantha confronted Winston Peters, Shane Jones, and members of the mainstream media with some challenging questions. Throughout her report, Samantha provides insightful commentary on the key takeaways from the speech, including the government's stance on vaccines, immigration, and foreign policy. She also discusses the reactions of attendees to Winston Peters' comments and analyzes the potential impact of these remarks on future political developments in New Zealand. Whether you're a fan of politics or simply interested in hearing Samantha Costello's insights into one of the most significant events in New Zealand's recent history, this episode is sure to provide valuable information and analysis. So sit back, relax, and watch Samantha catching Winston Peters ducking and diving once again. * NOTE: We will be rebranding the Samantha Edwards Reports for Counterspin media’s Season 4 launching soon) =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-mfc39-15ba4d2 Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== ====

Tim Kirby from Russia Hardcore speaks with Counterspin Media's Kelvyn Alp about his recent trip to Moscow to attend the Second Annual congress of The Russophile Movement. In this revealing interview, Kelvyn provides his position on various topics in his usual no-nonsense way. Find Tim Kirby here: Tim Kirby Russia Hardcore on Telegram: https://t.me/timkirbyhardcore Tim Kirby Russia Reloaded on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TimKirbyRussiaReloaded Tim Kirby Russia on Brighton: https://www.brighteon.com/channels/timkirbyrussia Tim Kirby Russia — полная коллекция видео на RUTUBE: https://rutube.ru/channel/23456251/ Original source for this video: https://youtu.be/F_vv6dEhWhM =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-it33s-15adcd5 Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== ===

Right to Truth - The William Bisset Report #9 Brace yourselves for a gripping revelation that could reshape the very fabric of our nation! In this groundbreaking video, William and Ross delve into the ominous reality of Smart Cities, exposing a potential threat that looms large over New Zealand. Imagine a future where the very essence of democracy, personal freedoms, and the sacred shield of privacy are at stake – all at the hands of the Smart City revolution. Smart Cities, initially hailed as the epitome of technological advancement, may hold a darker truth. Are we unwittingly surrendering our rights, becoming prisoners in a digital realm controlled by councils and the World Economic Forum (WEF)? The stark reality is that ALL COUNCILS are deeply entrenched in the Smart City program, and the consequences for our way of life could be catastrophic. Join William and Ross as they meticulously dissect the Smart City rollout, peeling back the layers to reveal the potential pitfalls that await an unsuspecting New Zealand. Uncover the hidden dangers that threaten to shatter the foundations of our society. Will our democracy survive? Can we preserve our cherished freedoms? Is privacy becoming an antiquated concept? The answers lie within this must-watch video, where the truth about Smart Cities and their impact on New Zealand is laid bare. Don't be left in the dark – arm yourself with knowledge and be a part of the conversation that will shape our collective future. Watch now to unravel the chilling narrative surrounding Smart Cities and why they might just be the biggest threat to New Zealand's way of life. This is more than a warning; it's a call to action! #SmartCitiesThreatNZ #DigitalDystopia #KnowledgeIsPower. $100 off OXYDRINK Super Oxygenated Siphon Use code: CSMOXY23 and this link: http://www.oxydrink.co.nz/CounterSpinPromo.html *Freight free within New Zealand (please enquire overseas courier costs) (While stocks last, for a limited time) $50 off HAIR ANALYSIS with Remedy Use code: CSM50 and this link: http://www.brilin.co.nz/hair%20analysis%20nz.html This code also provides a $50 discount on the Alpha-Stim M and Aid www.alpha-stim.co.nz *Freight free within New Zealand (please enquire overseas courier costs) (for a limited time, one allocation per week) =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-xx4nd-159c7f7 Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate ===================================================

Our Special Assignment in Russia continues. Whilst the Multipolarity Forum has wrapped up, Kelvyn will stay a few extra days in Moscow. In this despatch we have his interview with Dr Atapol Sughondhaborom, M.D. from Thailand who has inside knowledge about the medical condition and treatment of the Thai Princess, who looks to have been jab injured. In addition, we invited former Senior law Lecturer Amy Benjamin to stop by to put the conference in its larger geopolitical and “infowar” context. As usually happens with our conversations with Amy, the discussion is no holds barred and wide ranging. Topics addressed include the NZ Deputy Leaders’s obvious ignorance of the Ukraine situation. The difference between genuine multipolarity and the fake version of multipolarity (“global diversity”) propounded by the globalists. And, what we can expect in 2024 as far as worldwide political developments are concerned. At the end of our conversation Amy recognises the quality of our work and makes a generous call for financial support for our operation for which we are grateful. =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-9gpui-159a50d Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== ===

As the Second Congress of the International Russophile Movement has now wound down, Kelvyn remains in Moscow for a few more days reinforcing his new contacts. Meanwhile he makes a return to the Alex Jones Show to comment on Russia, Ukraine war and other key items on the geopolitical landscape. =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-s7y2m-15970cd Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate ===================================================

Counterspin was invited to attend The Second Congress of the International Russophile Movement titled Multipolarity Forum in Moscow. It was organised by the International Russophile Movement and supported by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Administration of the President of Russia. Today we update you on Kelvyn’s second and final day at the conference. Kelvyn joins us with one of our new friends Ahmed Yosef from Egyptian TV. They give us further insights into the conference and describe how many great conversations were had during the breaks. The level of honest conversations that were had amongst people from many different cultures and backgrounds has been very inspiring as the people of the world unite against the attempted globalist takeover. Kelvyn got a tip off about what might be happening behind the scenes with Julian Assange. We look forward to hearing far more about what happened behind the scenes when Kelvyn gets back to New Zealand. The conference has been shadow banned by big tech and legacy media. And as we went to record this despatch we got the news that one of New Zealand's biggest corporate news rooms was letting go of 300 staff. For a long time CSM has been saying MSM is dead and this was very much a theme at the conference. And now we are witnessing the fall in real time. Vladimir Putin, the Russian President, sent a message to the conference via his Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov who addressed the attendees. Just in case you missed the previous despatches: Dispatch 1:https://banned.video/watch?id=65dbaefae2affd7a7333c423 Dispatch 2https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=65dd8b565cb0cf8980c5dcbd =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-63aw2-1595900 Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== ===

Today we update you on Kelvyn’s first official day at The Multipolarity Forum, the Second Congress of the International Russophile Movement convened in Moscow. Kelvyn has met many different people from many walks of life, all wanting the same thing, to free their people from the clutches of the globalists. Many topics were discussed, in this despatch Kelvyn gives us a breakdown of the first day. =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-p4iav-1594064 Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== ===

Counterspin is the biggest threat to the New Zealand deep state. Imagine how crazy the they will be when they see us in Russia. Kelvyn Alp is on our biggest global assignment yet, with Operation Moscow! Counterspin was invited to attend a conference in Moscow hosted by the International Russophile Movement. We have dreamed of going to Russia to bring you the stories legacy/corporate media refuse to tell you and now that dream is becoming a reality. President Putin is demonized the world over. Will Kelvyn get a chance to ask him any questions? Will Sergey Lavrov finally grant us the interview we have been requesting for almost 2 years? What are the people like on the streets of Moscow? Do they really want Putin to lead WW3? In this first despatch, we hear how sanctioned Russia is... Follow along and support us at www.counterspinmedia.com =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-v3scr-1590a67 Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== …

On Sunday 17th December, 2023, Kiwis across the nation attended a Picnic for Barry Young, the New Zealand Ministry of Health Jab Data Whistleblower, the day before he is due to enter a not guilty plea in Wellington District Court. The main event was held in Barry’s home city of Wellington, but people gathered across the country to show their support for Barry and other whistleblowers. Damien De Ment gave a rousing speech to the enthusiastic crowd in Auckland. =================================================== This, and all other reports are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This report is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-4empv-152f131 Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== .

December 18, 2023 at 2:15 pm NZDT, New Zealand Jab Data Whistleblower, Barry Young pleads "NOT GUILTY" in the Wellington District Court.

After the publication of data leaked from New Zealand’s quaintly named Te Whatu Ora (Health New Zealand - a division of the Ministry of Health), on Thursday 30th November (NZDT) the New Zealand government has been left scrambling to cover this event up by limiting media coverage in New Zealand and even claiming they have injunctions to prevent all internet providers on the planet to shut this data release down. Good luck for that. Of course, New Zealand’s own pixie dust fairy princess, Jacinda Ardern is at the centre of this travesty, and as she cut and ran from New Zealand politics to lead a global attack on free speech and truth in the media, she will be campaigning for even greater “misinformation” restrictions to cover her own slimy steps. However, this data was carefully analysed, anonymised, and time shifted to prevent personal information from being released into the public domain. The data has already been handed over to a multitude of research organisations and is reportedly the best trove of official government data on the COVID scandal released so far. The New Zealand government is claiming and charging the whistleblower with 'accessing a computer system for dishonest purposes'. The people of New Zealand, and the world, are thanking the Whistleblower, Barry Young, (formerly known as Winston Smith), for is his courage in releasing this data , to the wider public for full scrutiny. In this report, we hear directly from Barry and then we show a full timeline of events released yesterday on how all these events played out. Tune into The Alex Jones show on Tuesday at 11 am Central Time in US or 6 am NZDT to hear interviews with Barry Young (at 12pm Central), Liz Gunn (at 1pm Central), the journalist and politician who arranged the release, and Counterspin’s own Hannah Spierer (at 2pm Central) for updates to this story as it develops. =================================================== Update December 6th, 2023: Barry Young, Steve Kirsch and Liz Gunn we interviewed by Alex Jones live on his show, and then the Alex Jones Show 4th hour guest host Maria Zee, interveiewed Counterspin Media's own Hannah Spierer for the full hour. These interviews may be found here: EXCLUSIVE: New Zealand COVID Lethal Injection Whistleblower Gives First Interview, Drops Huge Truth Bombs! https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=656f94b10681e680640f045f Lawyer/Investigative Journalist Who Exposed COVID Shots Causing Mass Death in New Zealand Gives Major Update https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=656f94b10681e680640f045f Journalist Who Helped New Zealand COVID Whistleblower Joins Maria Zeee to Expose Medical Tyranny https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=656fb4650681e680641365d0 =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-nsgr6-1518fdd Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== . . …

March 15th, 2019, was a shocking and tragic day - one that many New Zealanders remember as our "darkest day". The official record shows that Australian citizen Brenton Tarrant killed 51 people and wounded 40 others when he carried out mass shootings at two Christchurch mosques – the Masjid an-Nur on Deans Ave and the Linwood Islamic Centre .. Since that day, the complete prohibition of viewing and analysing the shooter’s manifesto and live stream video of that day have seen several people facing grave criminal charges, and even imprisonment. The laws they are using to cover this up are censorship laws primarily designed to prevent child pornography. Today, I speak with the producer of a film that tells the story of one such Kiwi man, Nathan Symington, who has recently been sentenced to extensive time in prison, for sharing links to two websites that investigate the event. Counterspin Media’s Kelvyn and Hannah, as well as another member of the Counterspin team, are also currently being threatened with 14 years imprisonment, as well as up to $600,000 in fines, for similar actions. Even possessing a copy or a web link (url) to online copies can result in 10 years imprisonment. There are many overseas websites that have analysed the shooter’s writing and videos and included these in analytical and investigative documentaries. While legal to do so in their countries, New Zealanders are subject to extremely harsh penalties, even getting harsher sentences that rapists and people actually possessing child pornography. Why is our government responding in such an extreme manner? Why have they completely forbidden the sharing of any information about that day? Why are they using such outrageous measures of intimidation to silence all informed discussion? And why are those who share something as humble as a web link being sentenced to lengthier prison sentences than many violent criminals? Does the New Zealand government have something to hide? If it looks like a cover up, smells like a cover up, well, we’ll let you decide. =================================================== Adam Nuttall’s film “Who’s Platform Is It?” on the plight of Nathan Symington and the story of Omar Nabi's journey to get accountability from the New Zealand police for their part in arming the terrorist that killed Omar's father and 50 members of his community “Who’s Platform Is It? : https://rumble.com/v3uts4n-whose-platform-is-it.html Films, Videos, and Publications Classification Act 1993: https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0094/latest/DLM312895.html =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-j7795-14f671b Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== …

Revised Edition #2 - See below for details A foray into the political manoeuvrings of veteran New Zealand politician, Winston Peters. Did you know that Winston Peters played a pivotal role in the 2020 abortion bill - which is the most extreme in the entire world? Did you know he also played a central role in the successful passing of the extreme euthanasia bill - passed in 2019? This exposé reveals that Winston has actually a key player in the facilitation of many globalist agendas in our nation... far beyond what most are aware of. We look at his deeply byzantine involvement with: We also take a trip down memory lane, and revisit some of Winston's previous campaign trail promises, - such as ditching TPPA and 1080, plus much more. Is Winston Peters a fickle politician, who just can't help but make over-enthusiastic promises to get himself into Parliament, - or is he playing a role? Is he truly the anti-establishment champion he's presenting as, - or is he simply channelling the disenchanted back into the machine, - with more false promises? This information is provided in the hope that all will be able to make a genuinely informed vote, come Election Day. =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-hxju6-14c6536 Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== Revised Edition #2 We had a report that a graphic in the first edition had an error and could be misleading. We have removed and replaced that graphic. The audio track remains unchanged. The Comments for 1st edition are preserved in the comments section. 1st edition: Total views: 1,071 Likes: 32

The gender bender agenda has been fast rolled out around the world and now it's here in NZ. One might even argue that it may have originated in New Zealand. Many in NZ are unaware that much of the original literature supporting the trans-gender and gender fluidity theories was put out by Dr John William Money, a New Zealand American psychologist, sexologist and professor at Johns Hopkins University known for his research on human sexual behaviour and gender. Money was born in Morrinsville and educated in Hutt Valley and Wellington’s Victoria University before heading off to the USA. This episode opens with a short video highlighting his work. The big story this week was that Posie Parker felt too unsafe to come back to NZ. But her message of opposing John Money’s work and standing up for women and children's rights has been heard loud and clear. We are then joined by concerned parents Blair & Hayley who have been holding public meetings to raise awareness about the dangers of the Relationship & Sex Education being rolled out in our schools. Blair has since started a group called Parents Against Gender Education NZ. https://www.facebook.com/groups/654227179675085/?ref=share&mibextid=NSMWBT Kit, a therapist, also joins us to discuss her concerns as an individual, because she is unable to speak in her professional capacity. This is a great example of Kiwis standing up to project the children. =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-v433f-14b19c1 Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== …

Is there an agent of a political psy-op at work on the fringes of the NZ Truth & Freedom Communities? How, and why, did they come to be holding the microphone? Samantha Edwards brings some important and relevant historical information about this person to the forefront, - in the interests that all may have the opportunity to make informed choices about the voices that they listen to. =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-43gs6-14a774b Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== …

It’s the 22nd anniversary of 9/11. And like the scamdemic, 9/11 changed the world forever, removing freedoms & liberties. At the end of the episode, we play a James Corbett classic on 9/11. And baby Storm makes an unplanned cameo appearance. But before all that, we analyse NZ Prime Minister Chris Hipkins’ recent comments proving he is a liar like so many other leaders in the 5 eyes nations. In this episode, we show how one man was affected by the PM’s recent comments, gaslighting NZ’ers, saying the jab was a choice. Brendan Pascoe passionately made his voice heard in earshot of the PM at a weekend market. Brendan and his wife Stephanie join us to explain what triggered the event and how their choice not to get jabbed resulted in them losing everything. Rangi from Mana News Live joins us following his arrest at the recent Labour Party election launch. Derty Sesh, NZ comedian, rapper, and political commentator, joins us to discuss his recent video on Hipkins. Finally, we go across the ditch to hear from Rukshan Fernando, aka the Real Rukshan, from Melbourne who’s tweet about Hipkins went viral around the world. Mana News Live https://www.facebook.com/mananewslive?mibextid=ZbWKwL Sesh https://www.facebook.com/derty.sesh?mibextid=ZbWKwL https://instagram.com/dertysesh?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Rukshan Fernando https://realrukshan.com https://www.facebook.com/therealrukshan?mibextid=ZbWKwL =================================================== This, and all previous episodes are available here: https://counterspinmedia.com/resources-videos/ This episode is also available as an audio podcast: https://www.podbean.com/eas/pb-w8vi5-14a17a3 Counterspin Media is now proud to be affiliated with Xtralife & to get $10.00 off your purchase got to :https://xtralife.co.nz/?ref=CSM and use the promo code: CSM Please help Counterspin Media by donating here: https://CounterspinMedia.com/Donate =================================================== …