Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
Pentagon UFO whistleblower David Grusch says the United States is in possession of vehicles of non-human origin and bodies of the pilots. Full interview by Ross Coulthart and reaction by Ryan Graves.
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Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft Of Non-Human Origin
By Leslie Kean & Ralph Blumenthal
The Debrief
June 5, 2023
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.
The information, he says, has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he filed a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures, reported here for the first time.
Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, with knowledge of these programs through their work in various agencies, have independently provided similar, corroborating information, both on and off the record.
The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.
The task force was established to investigate what were once called “unidentified flying objects,” or UFOs, and are now officially called “unidentified anomalous phenomena,” or UAP. The task force was led by the Department of the Navy under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security. It has since been reorganized and expanded into the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office to include investigations of objects operating underwater.
Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures,” he said.
In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG).
“We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,” Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.”
In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all “cleared for open publication” on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.
Grusch’s disclosures, and those of non-public witnesses, under new protective provisions of the latest defense appropriations bill, signal a growing determination by some in the government to unravel a colossal enigma with national security implications that has bedeviled the military and tantalized the public going back to World War II and beyond. For many decades, the Air Force carried out a disinformation campaign to discredit reported sightings of unexplained objects. Now, with two public hearings and many classified briefings under its belt, Congress is pressing for answers.
Karl E. Nell, a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive who was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022 and worked with Grusch there, characterizes Grusch as “beyond reproach.”
Christopher Mellon, who spent nearly twenty years in the U.S. Intelligence Community and served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has worked with Congress for years on unidentified aerial phenomena.
“A number of well-placed current and former officials have shared detailed information with me regarding this alleged program, including insights into the history, governing documents and the location where a craft was allegedly abandoned and recovered,” Mellon said. “However, it is a delicate matter getting this potentially explosive information into the right hands for validation. This is made harder by the fact that, rightly or wrongly, a number of potential sources do not trust the leadership of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office established by Congress.”
But some insiders are now willing to take the risk of coming forward for the first time with knowledge of these recovery programs.
Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus. Previously he had experience serving Private Aerospace and Department of Defense Special Directive Task Forces.
“The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
At the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Grusch served as a Senior Intelligence Capabilities Integration Officer, cleared at the Top Secret/Secret Compartmented Information level, and was the agency’s Senior Technical Advisor for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena analysis/Trans-Medium Issues. From 2016 to 2021, he served with the National Reconnaissance Office as Senior Intelligence Officer and led the production of the NRO director’s daily briefing. Grusch was a GS-15 civilian, the military equivalent of a Colonel.
Grusch has served as an Intelligence Officer for over fourteen years. A veteran of the Air Force, he has numerous awards and decorations for his participation in covert and clandestine operations to advance American security.
According to a 2021 NRO Performance Report, Grusch was an intelligence strategist with multiple responsibilities who “analyzed unidentified aerial phenomena reports” and “boosted congressional leadership Intel gaps [in] understanding.” He was assessed by the reconnaissance office’s Operations Center Deputy Director as an “adept staff officer and strategist” and “total force integrator with innovative solutions and actionable results.”
Grusch prepared many briefs on unidentified aerial phenomena for Congress while in government and helped draft the language on UAP for the FY2023 National Defense Authorization Act, spearheaded by Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Marco Rubio and signed into law by President Biden in December 2022. The provision states that any person with relevant UAP information can inform Congress without retaliation, regardless of any previous non-disclosure agreements.
In his statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April, Grusch asserted that UFO “legacy programs” have long been concealed within “multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities.”
He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.”
Beginning in 2022, Grusch provided Congress with hours of recorded classified information transcribed into hundreds of pages which included specific data about the materials recovery program. Congress has not been provided with any physical materials related to wreckage or other non-human objects.
Grusch’s investigation was centered on extensive interviews with high-level intelligence officials, some of whom are directly involved with the program. He says the operation was illegally shielded from proper Congressional oversight and that he was targeted and harassed because of his investigation.
Grusch said that the craft recovery operations are ongoing at various levels of activity and that he knows the specific individuals, current and former, who are involved.
“Individuals on these UAP programs approached me in my official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding a multitude of wrongdoings, such as illegal contracting against the Federal Acquisition Regulations and other criminality and the suppression of information across a qualified industrial base and academia,” he stated.
Associates who vouched for Grusch said his information was highly sensitive, providing evidence that materials from objects of non-human origin are in the possession of highly secret black programs. Although locations, program names, and other specific data remain classified, the Inspector General and intelligence committee staff were provided with these details. Several current members of the recovery program spoke to the Inspector General’s office and corroborated the information Grusch had provided for the classified complaint.
Grusch left the government on April 7, 2023, in order, he said, to advance government accountability through public awareness. He remains well-supported within intelligence circles, and numerous sources have vouched for his credibility.
“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force.
In a 2022 performance evaluation, Laura A. Potter, Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Headquarters, Department of the Army, described Nell as “an officer with the strongest possible moral compass.”
Grusch is represented by Charles McCullough III, senior partner of the Compass Rose Legal Group in Washington and the original Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 2011. At that time, McCullough reported directly to the then-Director of National Intelligence, James R. Clapper, and oversaw intelligence officers responsible for audits, inspections, and investigations.
In May 2022, McCullough filed a Disclosure of Urgent Concern(s); Complaint of Reprisal on behalf of Grusch with the ICIG about detailed information that Grusch had gathered beginning in 2019 while working for the UAP Task Force.
An unclassified version of the complaint provided to us states that Grusch has direct knowledge that UAP-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from Congress by “elements” of the intelligence community “to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program.” All testimony Grusch provided for the classified complaint was provided under oath.
According to the unclassified complaint, in July 2021, Grusch had confidentially provided classified information to the Department of Defense Inspector General concerning the withholding of UAP-related information from Congress. He believed that his identity, and the fact that he had provided testimony, were disclosed “to individuals and/or entities” within the Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community outside the IG’s office. He did not allege that this information was improperly disclosed by any member of that office.
As a result, Grusch suffered months of retaliation and reprisals related to these disclosures beginning in 2021. He asked that details of these reprisals be withheld to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation.
The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint “credible and urgent” in July 2022. According to Grusch, a summary was immediately submitted to the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines; the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
The complaint was drafted and signed by McCullough and his managing partner. It ended with Grusch’s signature attached to his statement that “I do solemnly affirm under the penalties of perjury that the contents of the foregoing paper are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.”
A whistleblower reprisal investigation was launched, and Grusch began his communication with the staff of the Congressional intelligence committees in private closed-door sessions. According to Grusch, certain information which he obtained in his investigation could not be put before Congressional staffers because they did not have the necessary clearances or the appropriate investigative authority.
A representative of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence told us in March that the committee members are not able to comment on the content of a complaint or confirm the identity of a complainant.
“When you have multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional SAP/CAP programs, both as recipients of exploitation-related insights and for operational reasons, without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities, you have a problem,” Grusch said, referencing the highly secret Special Access Programs and Controlled Access Programs.
Grusch’s willingness to take risks and speak out appears to be emboldening others with similar knowledge who believe in greater transparency.
Jonathan Grey, the intelligence officer specializing in UAP analysis at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, is speaking publicly for the first time, identified here under the identity he uses inside the agency.
NASIC, headquartered at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, is the Department of Defense’s primary Air Force source for foreign air and space threat analysis. Its mission is to “discover and characterize air, space, missile, and cyber threats,” according to the agency’s website. “The center’s team of trusted subject matter experts deliver unique collection, exploitation, and analytic capabilities not found elsewhere,” the website states.
Grey said that such immense capabilities are not merely relegated to the study of the prosaic. “The existence of complex historical programs involving the coordinated retrieval and study of exotic materials, dating back to the early 20th century, should no longer remain a secret,” he said. “The majority of retrieved, foreign exotic materials have a prosaic terrestrial explanation and origin – but not all, and any number higher than zero in this category represents an undeniably significant statistical percentage.”
It is unusual for an Air Force insider to come forward, as the Air Force has been less forthcoming than other agencies with regard to UAP.
“A vast array of our most sophisticated sensors, including space-based platforms, have been utilized by different agencies, typically in triplicate, to observe and accurately identify the out-of-this-world nature, performance, and design of these anomalous machines, which are then determined not to be of earthly origin,” Grey said.
Mellon, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has been instrumental in arranging classified briefings for members of Congress and other officials about UAP, which include references to exotic retrieved materials. The first briefing he facilitated on retrievals of unexplained objects was provided to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later, as reported by The New York Times.
Mellon says that once the members of Congress gain greater awareness of the information provided to their staff and the Inspector General, they will be in a position to quickly determine the truth if they have the will to do so.
“This is an unprecedented oversight challenge for the committees, but I believe we have leaders in Congress who are up to the task,” Mellon said.
Classified briefings are often presented for Jonathan Grey and his team at NASIC. “High-level, classified briefing materials exist in which real-world scenarios involving UAP, as evidenced by historical examples, are made available to Intelligence Personnel on a need-to-know basis,” he told us. “I have been the recipient of such briefings for almost a decade.”
The National Defense Authorization Act for FY2023 tasked the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, with establishing for the first time a secure mechanism for the authorized reporting of sensitive information to defense channels.
In addition, the legislation asks for reporting on “material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research, and development” involving unidentified anomalous phenomena currently and going back decades.
Dr. Garry Nolan, a Professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University and a renowned inventor and entrepreneur with more than three hundred published papers, has started over half a dozen companies based on technologies out of his laboratory. Nolan has previously applied some of those technologies to the analysis of exotic materials, publishing the first peer-reviewed paper examining such materials.
“Human civilization was utterly transformed by something as small as a grain of silicon or germanium—creating the underpinning of the integrated circuits that underly computation and now even artificial intelligence,” Nolan said.
Studying even small samples of purported anomalous material could lead to currently inconceivable benefits for humanity, he said. “What might be represented here could be hundreds of technology revolutions ahead of us. It could be more transformative for humanity than what the microprocessor accomplished. Imagine what we could do with even a grain of knowledge about how they operate.”
To encourage potential witnesses to come forward, the whistleblower legislation forbids any federal employee from retaliating against anyone providing authorized disclosure.
“Whistleblowing is essential to the checks and balances of our government – and no federal employee should feel discouraged from stepping forward due to fear of retaliation,” Rep. Andre Carson told us. In May 2022, Carson presided over the first open Congressional hearing on UAP since 1968.
The case of David Grusch marks a crucial test of these new whistleblower protections and their ability to protect future whistleblowers who decide to come forward.
Jonathan Grey says secrets have been necessary. “Though a tough nut to crack, potential technological advancements may be gleaned from non-human intelligence/UAP retrievals by any sufficiently advanced nation and then used to wage asymmetrical warfare, so, therefore, some secrecy must remain,” he says. “However, it is no longer necessary to continue to deny that these advanced technologies derived from non-human intelligence exist at all or to deny that these technologies have landed, crashed, or fallen into the hands of human beings.”
Grey noted that the hypothesis that the United States alone has bullied the other nations into maintaining this secrecy for nearly a century continues to prevail as the primary consensus amongst the public at large. “My hope is to dissuade the global populace from this archaic and preposterous notion, and to potentially pave the way for a much broader discussion,” he said.
Grusch said it was dangerous for this “eighty-year arms race” to continue in secrecy because it “further inhibits the world populace to be prepared for an unexpected, non-human intelligence contact scenario.”
“I hope this revelation serves as an ontological shock sociologically and provides a generally uniting issue for nations of the world to re-assess their priorities,” Grusch said.
Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal, with Helene Cooper, co-authored the Dec. 17, 2017, front-page article in The New York Times that disclosed the existence of a secret Pentagon program investigating UAP.
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https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/congressional-hearing-on-uaps-include
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My friend and UFO (UAP) investigator, attorney Justine Isernhinke and I had a long and intriguing discussion on UAPs before and after the The House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs for unidentified anomalous phenomenon (UAP), otherwise known as UFOs, finished testimony. Above is the video of our conversations as well as an audio only version.
That hearing was a bombshell. Other than the UAP jaw dropping testimony, it was fascinating to have Rep. Matt Gaetz and Rep. Ocasio-Cortez both in agreement on the importance of this phenomena. And yes, they appeared to agreed that issues of national security, threat level assessment, the cover-up, alleged corruption and that UAPs must be being taken very seriously by Congress. I encourage everyone to read the transcript or listen to the entire hearing.
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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
UFO Hearing Key Takeaways: What A Whistleblower Told Congress About UAP
By Stefan Becket
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July 26, 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/
Washington — A former military intelligence officer-turned-whistleblower told House lawmakers that Congress is being kept in the dark about unidentified anomalous phenomena, known as UAP or UFOs, alleging at a hearing that executive branch agencies have withheld information about the mysterious objects for years.
David Grusch, who served for 14 years as an intelligence officer in the Air Force and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, appeared before the House Oversight Committee's national security subcommittee alongside two former fighter pilots who had firsthand experience with UAP.
Grusch served as a representative on two Pentagon task forces investigating UAP until earlier this year. He told lawmakers that he was informed of "a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program" during the course of his work examining classified programs. He said he was denied access to those programs when he requested it, and accused the military of misappropriating funds to shield these operations from congressional oversight. He later said he had interviewed officials who had direct knowledge of aircraft with "nonhuman" origins, and that so-called "biologics" were recovered from some craft.
Members of both parties questioned how Congress should go about investigating the remarkable allegations, a reflection of the increasing willingness by lawmakers to demand the executive branch be more forthcoming about the phenomena.
"We're going to uncover the cover-up, and I hope this is just the beginning of many more hearings and many more people coming forward about this," said Rep. Tim Burchett, a Republican from Tennessee.
The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment about Grusch's claims, but the department has denied his assertions in the past.
The UAP issue has gained widespread attention from Congress and the public in recent years with the release of several video recordings of the encounters, which typically show seemingly nondescript objects moving through the air at very high speeds with no apparent method of propulsion.
The Pentagon's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which Congress established last year to investigate the incidents, has investigated roughly 800 reports of UAP as of May. While military officials have said most cases have innocuous origins, many others remain unexplained. Lawmakers say the military knows more about the objects than it has disclosed to Congress.
In addition to Grusch, the panel heard testimony from Ryan Graves, a former Navy pilot who has spoken out about encountering UAP on training missions, and David Fravor, who spotted a large object captured in the now-famous "Tic Tac" video during a flight off the coast of California in 2004.
All three witnesses said current reporting systems are inadequate to investigate UAP encounters, and said a stigma still exists for pilots and officials who press for more transparency about their experiences.
Graves was an F-18 pilot stationed in Virginia Beach in 2014 when his squadron first began detecting unknown objects. He described them as "dark grey or black cubes … inside of a clear sphere, where the apex or tips of the cubes were touching the inside of that sphere."
He said a fellow pilot told him about one incident about 10 miles off the coast, in which an object between 5 and 15 feet in diameter flew between two F-18s and came within 50 feet of the aircraft. He said there was no acknowledgement of the incident or way to report the encounter at the time.
UAP encounters, he said, were "not rare or isolated."
"If everyone could see the sensor and video data I witnessed, our national conversation would change," Graves said. "I urge us to put aside stigma and address the security and safety issue this topic represents. If UAP are foreign drones, it is an urgent national security problem. If it is something else, it is an issue for science. In either case, unidentified objects are a concern for flight safety. The American people deserve to know what is happening in our skies. It is long overdue."
Grusch served as the National Reconnaissance Office's representative to the AARO and its predecessor task force. While he said he couldn't answer many questions about what he knew about classified programs in Wednesday's open hearing, he said he was "hopeful that my actions will ultimately lead to a positive outcome of increased transparency."
Fravor recounted his 2004 encounter with an object off the California coast. He told the subcommittee that he and another pilot spotted the smooth, seamless oval-shaped object hovering over the water before it rapidly climbed about 12,000 feet in the air. It then accelerated and disappeared. It was detected roughly 60 miles away less than a minute later. Fravor returned to an aircraft carrier and mentioned the object to other pilots who were getting ready to take off, and they managed to get it on video.
"I think what we experienced was, like I said, well beyond the material science and the capabilities that we had at the time, that we have currently or that we're going to have in the next 10 to 20 years," Fravor said.
Congress pushes for UAP/UFO transparency
Wednesday's hearing took place amid a growing willingness by lawmakers to demand the military and intelligence agencies release more about what they know regarding the mysterious incidents, with many members of Congress citing the potential national security threat posed by unknown objects in or near U.S. airspace.
A bipartisan group of senators led by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduced an amendment to the annual defense spending bill currently making its way through Congress. The measure, modeled off legislation aimed at revealing government records about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, would require executive branch agencies to hand over UAP records to a review board with "the presumption of immediate disclosure." Agencies would have to justify requests to keep records classified.
A different House panel heard testimony from Pentagon officials at the first open hearing about the issue in more than 50 years last summer.
At Wednesday's hearing, lawmakers of both parties expressed anger about their inability to get information about UAP from the military and intelligence agencies, describing a system of overclassification that shields reports of incident from public view.
"We should have disclosure today. We should have disclosure tomorrow. The time has come," said Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz of Florida.
"Several of us are going to look forward to getting some answers in a more confidential setting. I assume some legislation will come out of this," said GOP Rep. Glenn Grothman, the subcommittee's chairman.
Original YouTube Video of Congressional Hearing:
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Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
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60 Minutes: UFOs Regularly Spotted In Restricted U.S. Airspace
UFOs Regularly Spotted In Restricted U.S. Airspace, Report On The Phenomena Due Next Month
60 Minutes
May 16, 2021
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-military-intelligence-60-minutes-2021-05-16/
We have tackled many strange stories on 60 Minutes, but perhaps none like this. It's the story of the U.S. government's grudging acknowledgment of unidentified aerial phenomena— UAP—more commonly known as UFOs. After decades of public denial the Pentagon now admits there's something out there, and the U.S. Senate wants to know what it is. The intelligence committee has ordered the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense to deliver a report on the mysterious sightings by next month.
Bill Whitaker: So what you are telling me is that UFOs, unidentified flying objects, are real?
Lue Elizondo: Bill, I think we're beyond that already. The government has already stated for the record that they're real. I'm not telling you that. The United States government is telling you that.
Luis Elizondo spent 20 years running military intelligence operations worldwide: in Afghanistan, the Middle East and Guantanamo. He hadn't given UFOs a second thought until 2008. That's when he was asked to join something at the Pentagon called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or "AATIP."
Lue Elizondo: The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles, what I guess in the vernacular you call them UFOs. We call them UAPs.
Bill Whitaker: You know how this sounds? It sounds nutty, wacky.
Lue Elizondo: Look, Bill, I'm not, I'm not telling you that, that it doesn't sound wacky. What I'm telling you, it's real. The question is, what is it? What are its intentions? What are its capabilities?
Buried away in the Pentagon, AATIP was part of a $22 million program sponsored by then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to investigate UFOs. When Elizondo took over in 2010 he focused on the national security implications of unidentified aerial phenomena documented by U.S. service members.
Lue Elizondo: Imagine a technology that can do 6-to-700 g-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar and that can fly through air and water and possibly space. And oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing.
Elizondo tells us AATIP was a loose-knit mix of scientists, electro-optical engineers, avionics and intelligence experts, often working part time. They combed through data and records, and analyzed videos like this.
A Navy aircrew struggles to lock onto a fast-moving object off the U.S. Atlantic Coast in 2015.
Recently released images may not convince ufo skeptics, but the pentagon admits it doesn't know what in the world this is or this or this.
Bill Whitaker: So what do you say to the skeptics? It's refracted light. Weather balloons. A rocket being launched. Venus.
Lue Elizondo: In some cases there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing. But there are some that, that are not. We're not just simply jumping to a conclusion that's saying, "Oh, that's a UAP out there." We're going through our due diligence. Is it some sort of new type of cruise missile technology that China has developed? Is it some sort of high-altitude balloon that's conducting reconnaissance? Ultimately when you have exhausted all those what ifs and you're still left with the fact that this is in our airspace and it's real, that's when it becomes compelling, and that's when it becomes problematic.
Former Navy pilot Lieutenant Ryan Graves calls whatever is out there a security risk. He told us his F/A-18F squadron began seeing UAPs hovering over restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach in 2014 when they updated their jet's radar, making it possible to zero in with infrared targeting cameras.
Bill Whitaker: So you're seeing it both with the radar and with the infrared. And that tells you that there is something out there?
Ryan Graves: Pretty hard to spoof that.
These photographs were taken in 2019 in the same area. The Pentagon confirms these are images of objects it can't identify. Lieutenant Graves told us pilots training off the Atlantic Coast see things like that all the time.
Ryan Graves: Every day. Every day for at least a couple years.
Bill Whitaker: Wait a minute, every day for a couple of years?
Ryan Graves: Uh-huh.
Ryan Graves: I don't see an exhaust plume.
Including this one – off the coast of Jacksonville, Florida in 2015, captured on a targeting camera by members of Graves' squadron.
Soundbites from pilots: Look at that thing, it's rotating! My gosh! They're all going against the wind, the wind's 120 knots to the west. Look at that thing dude!
Bill Whitaker: You can sorta hear the surprise in their voices.
Ryan Graves: You certainly can. They seem to have broke character a bit and were just kind of amazed at what they were seeing.
Bill Whitaker: What do you think when you see something like this?
Ryan Graves: This is a difficult one to explain. You have rotation, you have high altitudes. You have propulsion, right? I don't know. I don't know what it is, frankly.
He told us pilots speculate they are one of three things: secret U.S. technology, an adversary's spy vehicle, or something otherworldly.
Ryan Graves: I would say, you know, the highest probability is it's a threat observation program.
Bill Whitaker: Could it be Russian or Chinese technology?
Ryan Graves: I don't see why not.
Bill Whitaker: Are you alarmed?
Ryan Graves: I am worried, frankly. You know, if these were tactical jets from another country that were hangin' out up there, it would be a massive issue. But because it looks slightly different, we're not willing to actually look at the problem in the face. We're happy to just ignore the fact that these are out there, watching us every day.
The government has ignored it - at least publicly - since closing its project "Blue Book" investigation in 1969. But that began to change after an incident off Southern California in 2004, which was documented by radar, by camera, and four naval aviators. We spoke to two of them: David Fravor, a graduate of the Top Gun naval flight school and commander of the F/A-18F squadron on the USS Nimitz; and flying at his wing, Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, who has never spoken publicly about the encounter.
Alex Dietrich: I never wanted to be on national TV, no offense.
Bill Whitaker: So why are you doing this?
Alex Dietrich: Because I was in a government aircraft, because I was on the clock. And so I feel a responsibility to s-- to share what I can. And it is unclassified.
It was November 2004 and the USS Nimitz carrier strike group was training about 100 miles southwest of San Diego. For a week, the advanced new radar on a nearby ship, the USS Princeton, had detected what operators called "multiple anomalous aerial vehicles" over the horizon, descending 80,000 feet in less than a second. On November 14, Fravor and Dietrich, each with a weapons systems officer in the backseat, were diverted to investigate. They found an area of roiling whitewater the size of a 737 in an otherwise calm, blue sea.
Dave Fravor: So as we're looking at this, her back-seater says, "Hey, Skipper, do you..." And about that got out, I said, "Dude, do you, do you see that thing down there?" And we saw this little white Tic Tac-looking object. And it's just kind of moving above the whitewater area.
As Deitrich circled above - Fravor went in for a closer look.
Bill Whitaker: So you're sort of spiraling down?
Dave Fravor: Yep. The Tic Tac's still pointing north-south, it goes, click, and just turns abruptly. And starts mirroring me. So as I'm coming down, it starts coming up.
Bill Whitaker: So it's mimicking your moves?
Dave Fravor: Yeah, it was aware we were there.
He said it was about the size of his F/A-18F, with no markings, no wings, no exhaust plumes.
Dave Fravor: I want to see how close I can get. So I go like this. And it's climbing still. And when it gets right in front of me, it just disappears.
Bill Whitaker: Disappears?
Dave Fravor: Disappears. Like, gone.
It had sped off.
Bill Whitaker: What are you thinking?
Alex Dietrich: So your mind tries to make sense of it. I'm gonna categorize this as maybe a helicopter or maybe a drone. And when it disappeared. I mean it was just…
Bill Whitaker: Did your back-seaters see this too?
Alex Dietrich: Yeah.
Dave Fravor: Oh yeah. There was four of us in the airplanes literally watching this thing for roughly about five minutes.
Seconds later, the Princeton reacquired the target. 60 miles away. Another crew managed to briefly lock onto it with a targeting camera before it zipped off again.
Alex Dietrich: You know, I think that over beers, we've sort of said, "Hey man, if I saw this solo, I don't know that I would have come back and said anything," because it sounds so crazy when I say it.
Bill Whitaker: You understand that reaction?
Dave Fravor: I do. I've had some people tell me, you know, "When you say that, you can sound crazy." I'll be hon-- I'm not a UFO guy.
Bill Whitaker: But from what I hear you guys saying, there's something?
Alex Dietrich: Yes.
Dave Fravor: Oh there's, there's definitely something that… I don't know who's building it, who's got the technology, who's got the brains. But there's, there's something out there that was better than our airplane.
The aircrew filed reports. Then like the mysterious flying object, the Nimitz encounter disappeared. Nothing was said or done officially for five years, until Lue Elizondo came across the story and investigated.
Lue Elizondo: We spend millions of dollars in training these pilots. And they are seeing something that they can't explain. Furthermore, that informations being backed up on electro optical data, like gun camera footage. And by radar data. Now, to me, that's compelling.
Inside the Pentagon his findings were met with skepticism. AATIP's funding was eliminated in 2012, but Elizondo says he and a handful of others kept the mission alive until finally, frustrated, he quit the Pentagon in 2017, but not before getting these three videos declassified and then things took a stranger turn.
Chris Mellon: I tried to help my colleague, Lue Elizondo, elevate the issue in the department and actually get it to the Secretary of Defense.
Christopher Mellon served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence for Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush and had access to top secret government programs.
Chris Mellon: So it's not us, that's one thing we know.
Bill Whitaker: We know that?
Chris Mellon: I can say that with a very high degree of confidence in part because of the positions I held in the department, and I know the process.
Mellon says he grew concerned nothing was being done about UAPs, so he decided to do something. In 2017, as a private citizen, he surreptitiously acquired the three Navy videos Elizondo had declassified and leaked them to the New York Times.
Chris Mellon: It's bizarre and unfortunate that someone like myself has to do something like that to get a national security issue like this on the agenda.
He joined forces with now civilian Lue Elizondo and they started to tell their story to anybody who would listen: to newspapers, the History Channel, to members of Congress.
Chris Mellon: We knew and understood that you had to go to the public, get the public interested to get Congress interested, to then circle back to the Defense Department and get them to start taking a look at it.
And now it is. This past August the Pentagon resurrected AATIP, it's now called the UAP task force; service members now are encouraged to report strange encounters; and the Senate wants answers.
Marco Rubio: Anything that enters an airspace that's not supposed to be there is a threat.
After receiving classified briefings on UAPs, Senator Marco Rubio called for a detailed analysis. This past December, while he was still head of the intelligence committee, he asked the director of national intelligence and the Pentagon to present Congress an unclassified report by next month.
Bill Whitaker: This is a bizarre issue. The Pentagon and other branches of the military have a long history of sort of dismissing this. What makes you think that this time's gonna be different?
Marco Rubio: We're gonna find out when we get that report. You know, there's a stigma on Capitol Hill. I mean, some of my colleagues are very interested in this topic and some kinda, you know, giggle when you bring it up. But I don't think we can allow the stigma to keep us from having an answer to a very fundamental question.
Bill Whitaker: What do you want us to do about this?
Marco Rubio: I want us to take it seriously and have a process to take it seriously. I want us to have a process to analyze the data every time it comes in. That there be a place where this is cataloged and constantly analyzed, until we get some answers. Maybe it has a very simple answer. Maybe it doesn't.
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UFOs and Extraterrestrials: http://sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
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Tucker Carlson On UFOs & Nonhuman Beings From Somewhere Else
Source videos:
Tucker Carlson Joins us LIVE on Redacted w Clayton Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmEdRaHaKvE
Tucker Carlson @TuckerCarlson writes:
"Ep. 51 - It's becoming obvious that the US government has made contact with nonhuman beings. So why are they lying to us about it? We asked UFO whistleblower Dave Grusch."
Source Video:
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1735083523050975277
See also:
Dr. Robert Malone & UFO/UAP Investigator Justine Isernhinke Discuss Recent UFO/UAP Developments
https://rumble.com/v32x9sw-dr.-robert-malone-and-ufouap-investigator-justine-isernhinke-discuss-recent.html
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
https://rumble.com/v32nebc-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-uap-national-security-public-safety-govern.html
Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
https://rumble.com/v31fzpe-jeremy-corbell-on-fox-news-ufo-hearings-in-congress-next-week-will-be-histo.html
UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
https://rumble.com/v2skms2-ufos-are-real-pentagon-whistleblower-says-u.s.-in-possession-of-alien-space.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1510 - George Knapp & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1ifd99-joe-rogan-experience-1510-george-knapp-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1iexdv-joe-rogan-experience-1315-bob-lazar-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1597 - Joe Rogan Interviews Travis Walton
https://rumble.com/v1irsi3-joe-rogan-experience-1597-joe-rogan-interviews-travis-walton.html
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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The 'Jellyfish' UFO/UAP Could Be 'The Real Deal'!
"Look, it's not my video. It's from our military from an incursion from a base deemed UAP or UFO by our intelligence agencies." -- Jeremy Corbell
“I’m betting this is going to be ‘The Real Deal’.” -- Nick Pope
Source Videos:
Video One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTMO94lbs0s
Video Two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrvnyIeyDA
Video Three:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bns_WhNAQM
See also:
Jeremy Corbell on X
https://twitter.com/JeremyCorbell
Jeremy Corbell on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyCorbell/videos
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution
https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution Movie Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwAj2KvScx8
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution Promo Page
https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/09/ufo-promo-tmz-documentary-ufo-transparency-threatened/
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UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 1) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-1
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 2) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-2-talon-thresher
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 3) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-3-david-grusch
UFOs Go Mainstream (Daily Mail)
https://rumble.com/v46w84u-ufos-go-mainstream-daily-mail.html
Tucker Carlson On UFOs & Nonhuman Beings From Somewhere Else
https://rumble.com/v42rzrw-tucker-carlson-on-ufos-and-nonhuman-beings-from-somewhere-else.html
Dr. Robert Malone & UFO/UAP Investigator Justine Isernhinke Discuss Recent UFO/UAP Developments
https://rumble.com/v32x9sw-dr.-robert-malone-and-ufouap-investigator-justine-isernhinke-discuss-recent.html
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
https://rumble.com/v32nebc-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-uap-national-security-public-safety-govern.html
Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
https://rumble.com/v31fzpe-jeremy-corbell-on-fox-news-ufo-hearings-in-congress-next-week-will-be-histo.html
UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
https://rumble.com/v2skms2-ufos-are-real-pentagon-whistleblower-says-u.s.-in-possession-of-alien-space.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1510 - George Knapp & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1ifd99-joe-rogan-experience-1510-george-knapp-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1iexdv-joe-rogan-experience-1315-bob-lazar-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1597 - Joe Rogan Interviews Travis Walton
https://rumble.com/v1irsi3-joe-rogan-experience-1597-joe-rogan-interviews-travis-walton.html
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George Knapp Interviews Jacques Vallée: Aliens Could Be Beings From Another Dimension (1990)
Back in 1990, George Knapp interviewed Jacques Vallée who also said that “aliens” could be beings from another dimension.
Original YouTube Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyIgT2vsBXA
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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
https://rumble.com/v32nebc-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-uap-national-security-public-safety-govern.html
Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
https://rumble.com/v31fzpe-jeremy-corbell-on-fox-news-ufo-hearings-in-congress-next-week-will-be-histo.html
UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
https://rumble.com/v2skms2-ufos-are-real-pentagon-whistleblower-says-u.s.-in-possession-of-alien-space.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1510 - George Knapp & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1ifd99-joe-rogan-experience-1510-george-knapp-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1iexdv-joe-rogan-experience-1315-bob-lazar-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1597 - Joe Rogan Interviews Travis Walton
https://rumble.com/v1irsi3-joe-rogan-experience-1597-joe-rogan-interviews-travis-walton.html
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
Pentagon UFO whistleblower David Grusch says the United States is in possession of vehicles of non-human origin and bodies of the pilots. Full interview by Ross Coulthart and reaction by Ryan Graves.
Tucker Carlson Coverage:
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419
News Nation Video:
https://twitter.com/UAPJames/status/1665847088050044929
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UFOs & Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft Of Non-Human Origin
By Leslie Kean & Ralph Blumenthal
The Debrief
June 5, 2023
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.
The information, he says, has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he filed a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures, reported here for the first time.
Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, with knowledge of these programs through their work in various agencies, have independently provided similar, corroborating information, both on and off the record.
The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.
The task force was established to investigate what were once called “unidentified flying objects,” or UFOs, and are now officially called “unidentified anomalous phenomena,” or UAP. The task force was led by the Department of the Navy under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security. It has since been reorganized and expanded into the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office to include investigations of objects operating underwater.
Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures,” he said.
In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG).
“We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,” Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.”
In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all “cleared for open publication” on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.
Grusch’s disclosures, and those of non-public witnesses, under new protective provisions of the latest defense appropriations bill, signal a growing determination by some in the government to unravel a colossal enigma with national security implications that has bedeviled the military and tantalized the public going back to World War II and beyond. For many decades, the Air Force carried out a disinformation campaign to discredit reported sightings of unexplained objects. Now, with two public hearings and many classified briefings under its belt, Congress is pressing for answers.
Karl E. Nell, a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive who was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022 and worked with Grusch there, characterizes Grusch as “beyond reproach.”
Christopher Mellon, who spent nearly twenty years in the U.S. Intelligence Community and served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has worked with Congress for years on unidentified aerial phenomena.
“A number of well-placed current and former officials have shared detailed information with me regarding this alleged program, including insights into the history, governing documents and the location where a craft was allegedly abandoned and recovered,” Mellon said. “However, it is a delicate matter getting this potentially explosive information into the right hands for validation. This is made harder by the fact that, rightly or wrongly, a number of potential sources do not trust the leadership of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office established by Congress.”
But some insiders are now willing to take the risk of coming forward for the first time with knowledge of these recovery programs.
Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus. Previously he had experience serving Private Aerospace and Department of Defense Special Directive Task Forces.
“The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
At the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Grusch served as a Senior Intelligence Capabilities Integration Officer, cleared at the Top Secret/Secret Compartmented Information level, and was the agency’s Senior Technical Advisor for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena analysis/Trans-Medium Issues. From 2016 to 2021, he served with the National Reconnaissance Office as Senior Intelligence Officer and led the production of the NRO director’s daily briefing. Grusch was a GS-15 civilian, the military equivalent of a Colonel.
Grusch has served as an Intelligence Officer for over fourteen years. A veteran of the Air Force, he has numerous awards and decorations for his participation in covert and clandestine operations to advance American security.
According to a 2021 NRO Performance Report, Grusch was an intelligence strategist with multiple responsibilities who “analyzed unidentified aerial phenomena reports” and “boosted congressional leadership Intel gaps [in] understanding.” He was assessed by the reconnaissance office’s Operations Center Deputy Director as an “adept staff officer and strategist” and “total force integrator with innovative solutions and actionable results.”
Grusch prepared many briefs on unidentified aerial phenomena for Congress while in government and helped draft the language on UAP for the FY2023 National Defense Authorization Act, spearheaded by Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Marco Rubio and signed into law by President Biden in December 2022. The provision states that any person with relevant UAP information can inform Congress without retaliation, regardless of any previous non-disclosure agreements.
In his statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April, Grusch asserted that UFO “legacy programs” have long been concealed within “multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities.”
He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.”
Beginning in 2022, Grusch provided Congress with hours of recorded classified information transcribed into hundreds of pages which included specific data about the materials recovery program. Congress has not been provided with any physical materials related to wreckage or other non-human objects.
Grusch’s investigation was centered on extensive interviews with high-level intelligence officials, some of whom are directly involved with the program. He says the operation was illegally shielded from proper Congressional oversight and that he was targeted and harassed because of his investigation.
Grusch said that the craft recovery operations are ongoing at various levels of activity and that he knows the specific individuals, current and former, who are involved.
“Individuals on these UAP programs approached me in my official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding a multitude of wrongdoings, such as illegal contracting against the Federal Acquisition Regulations and other criminality and the suppression of information across a qualified industrial base and academia,” he stated.
Associates who vouched for Grusch said his information was highly sensitive, providing evidence that materials from objects of non-human origin are in the possession of highly secret black programs. Although locations, program names, and other specific data remain classified, the Inspector General and intelligence committee staff were provided with these details. Several current members of the recovery program spoke to the Inspector General’s office and corroborated the information Grusch had provided for the classified complaint.
Grusch left the government on April 7, 2023, in order, he said, to advance government accountability through public awareness. He remains well-supported within intelligence circles, and numerous sources have vouched for his credibility.
“His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force.
In a 2022 performance evaluation, Laura A. Potter, Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Headquarters, Department of the Army, described Nell as “an officer with the strongest possible moral compass.”
Grusch is represented by Charles McCullough III, senior partner of the Compass Rose Legal Group in Washington and the original Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 2011. At that time, McCullough reported directly to the then-Director of National Intelligence, James R. Clapper, and oversaw intelligence officers responsible for audits, inspections, and investigations.
In May 2022, McCullough filed a Disclosure of Urgent Concern(s); Complaint of Reprisal on behalf of Grusch with the ICIG about detailed information that Grusch had gathered beginning in 2019 while working for the UAP Task Force.
An unclassified version of the complaint provided to us states that Grusch has direct knowledge that UAP-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from Congress by “elements” of the intelligence community “to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program.” All testimony Grusch provided for the classified complaint was provided under oath.
According to the unclassified complaint, in July 2021, Grusch had confidentially provided classified information to the Department of Defense Inspector General concerning the withholding of UAP-related information from Congress. He believed that his identity, and the fact that he had provided testimony, were disclosed “to individuals and/or entities” within the Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community outside the IG’s office. He did not allege that this information was improperly disclosed by any member of that office.
As a result, Grusch suffered months of retaliation and reprisals related to these disclosures beginning in 2021. He asked that details of these reprisals be withheld to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation.
The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint “credible and urgent” in July 2022. According to Grusch, a summary was immediately submitted to the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines; the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
The complaint was drafted and signed by McCullough and his managing partner. It ended with Grusch’s signature attached to his statement that “I do solemnly affirm under the penalties of perjury that the contents of the foregoing paper are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.”
A whistleblower reprisal investigation was launched, and Grusch began his communication with the staff of the Congressional intelligence committees in private closed-door sessions. According to Grusch, certain information which he obtained in his investigation could not be put before Congressional staffers because they did not have the necessary clearances or the appropriate investigative authority.
A representative of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence told us in March that the committee members are not able to comment on the content of a complaint or confirm the identity of a complainant.
“When you have multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional SAP/CAP programs, both as recipients of exploitation-related insights and for operational reasons, without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities, you have a problem,” Grusch said, referencing the highly secret Special Access Programs and Controlled Access Programs.
Grusch’s willingness to take risks and speak out appears to be emboldening others with similar knowledge who believe in greater transparency.
Jonathan Grey, the intelligence officer specializing in UAP analysis at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, is speaking publicly for the first time, identified here under the identity he uses inside the agency.
NASIC, headquartered at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, is the Department of Defense’s primary Air Force source for foreign air and space threat analysis. Its mission is to “discover and characterize air, space, missile, and cyber threats,” according to the agency’s website. “The center’s team of trusted subject matter experts deliver unique collection, exploitation, and analytic capabilities not found elsewhere,” the website states.
Grey said that such immense capabilities are not merely relegated to the study of the prosaic. “The existence of complex historical programs involving the coordinated retrieval and study of exotic materials, dating back to the early 20th century, should no longer remain a secret,” he said. “The majority of retrieved, foreign exotic materials have a prosaic terrestrial explanation and origin – but not all, and any number higher than zero in this category represents an undeniably significant statistical percentage.”
It is unusual for an Air Force insider to come forward, as the Air Force has been less forthcoming than other agencies with regard to UAP.
“A vast array of our most sophisticated sensors, including space-based platforms, have been utilized by different agencies, typically in triplicate, to observe and accurately identify the out-of-this-world nature, performance, and design of these anomalous machines, which are then determined not to be of earthly origin,” Grey said.
Mellon, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has been instrumental in arranging classified briefings for members of Congress and other officials about UAP, which include references to exotic retrieved materials. The first briefing he facilitated on retrievals of unexplained objects was provided to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Oct. 21, 2019, and to staff members of the Senate Intelligence Committee two days later, as reported by The New York Times.
Mellon says that once the members of Congress gain greater awareness of the information provided to their staff and the Inspector General, they will be in a position to quickly determine the truth if they have the will to do so.
“This is an unprecedented oversight challenge for the committees, but I believe we have leaders in Congress who are up to the task,” Mellon said.
Classified briefings are often presented for Jonathan Grey and his team at NASIC. “High-level, classified briefing materials exist in which real-world scenarios involving UAP, as evidenced by historical examples, are made available to Intelligence Personnel on a need-to-know basis,” he told us. “I have been the recipient of such briefings for almost a decade.”
The National Defense Authorization Act for FY2023 tasked the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, with establishing for the first time a secure mechanism for the authorized reporting of sensitive information to defense channels.
In addition, the legislation asks for reporting on “material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research, and development” involving unidentified anomalous phenomena currently and going back decades.
Dr. Garry Nolan, a Professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University and a renowned inventor and entrepreneur with more than three hundred published papers, has started over half a dozen companies based on technologies out of his laboratory. Nolan has previously applied some of those technologies to the analysis of exotic materials, publishing the first peer-reviewed paper examining such materials.
“Human civilization was utterly transformed by something as small as a grain of silicon or germanium—creating the underpinning of the integrated circuits that underly computation and now even artificial intelligence,” Nolan said.
Studying even small samples of purported anomalous material could lead to currently inconceivable benefits for humanity, he said. “What might be represented here could be hundreds of technology revolutions ahead of us. It could be more transformative for humanity than what the microprocessor accomplished. Imagine what we could do with even a grain of knowledge about how they operate.”
To encourage potential witnesses to come forward, the whistleblower legislation forbids any federal employee from retaliating against anyone providing authorized disclosure.
“Whistleblowing is essential to the checks and balances of our government – and no federal employee should feel discouraged from stepping forward due to fear of retaliation,” Rep. Andre Carson told us. In May 2022, Carson presided over the first open Congressional hearing on UAP since 1968.
The case of David Grusch marks a crucial test of these new whistleblower protections and their ability to protect future whistleblowers who decide to come forward.
Jonathan Grey says secrets have been necessary. “Though a tough nut to crack, potential technological advancements may be gleaned from non-human intelligence/UAP retrievals by any sufficiently advanced nation and then used to wage asymmetrical warfare, so, therefore, some secrecy must remain,” he says. “However, it is no longer necessary to continue to deny that these advanced technologies derived from non-human intelligence exist at all or to deny that these technologies have landed, crashed, or fallen into the hands of human beings.”
Grey noted that the hypothesis that the United States alone has bullied the other nations into maintaining this secrecy for nearly a century continues to prevail as the primary consensus amongst the public at large. “My hope is to dissuade the global populace from this archaic and preposterous notion, and to potentially pave the way for a much broader discussion,” he said.
Grusch said it was dangerous for this “eighty-year arms race” to continue in secrecy because it “further inhibits the world populace to be prepared for an unexpected, non-human intelligence contact scenario.”
“I hope this revelation serves as an ontological shock sociologically and provides a generally uniting issue for nations of the world to re-assess their priorities,” Grusch said.
Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal, with Helene Cooper, co-authored the Dec. 17, 2017, front-page article in The New York Times that disclosed the existence of a secret Pentagon program investigating UAP.
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Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic,' Journalist Says
Reps Tim Burchett And Jared Moskowitz Offered Bipartisan Support For The Upcoming Panel
By Charles Creitz
Fox News
July 21, 2023
Next week's House Oversight Committee hearing on alleged unidentified flying object sightings will be "historic," one investigative journalist versed in the subject told Fox News on Thursday.
Jeremy Corbell, host of the "WEAPONIZED" podcast, told "The Ingraham Angle" that recollections of the sightings are rife with descriptions that defy human physical realities.
Ahead of the hearing, there has been bipartisan agreement that the feds must be more transparent about sightings and encounters with U.S. military aircraft.
Reps. Jared Moskowitz, D-Fla., and Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., sounded similar in their public statements ahead of the hearing.
"Why is the military and the government not just being honest with us? Why are they overclassifying it? Why aren't they being transparent?" Moskowitz asked, while Burchett noted the feds have at times claimed UFOs don't exist, while blocking "every opportunity for us to get ahold of the information to prove that they do exist."
"We're going to get to the bottom of it, dadgummit, whatever the truth may be. We're done with the cover-up," Burchett said in a clip played by host Laura Ingraham.
Corbell told Ingraham the government knows more than the public about the existence of UFOs and the characteristics of the sightings.
"We know they outpace, outmaneuver and overperform any of our weaponry," he said. "We know they're not China. We know they're not Russia. We know they're not ours, so what we're looking to do is avoid a strategic surprise."
"UFOs have been a part of the human experience since before there was even a Pentagon or Department of Defense," he said. "So this idea that it's just some technology built by another unknown nation, it doesn't hold water. So the question is, who's operating this craft? What's the intent? How do they have these performance capabilities?"
Corbell described the upcoming hearings as "historic, [with] firsthand, direct eyewitnesses" and people who have "engaged UFOs in combat situations."
Ingraham noted Burchett previously proffered a similar reaction to claims UFOs are just a product of a U.S. rival.
"If Russia owned it, they wouldn't be battling in Ukraine, it'd be over — China? They would control us, even though they pretty much do now," Burchett previously said.
Corbell said it will be important to discover how UFOs can defy terrestrial physics and make 90-degree turns at speeds where G-forces would crush a human body, or be able to cross from sea to air to space without regard to physics as well.
In 2019, the Navy formally acknowledged the veracity of three UFO videos that were published prior by Blink-182 rocker Tom DeLonge and The New York Times.
The videos in question, known as "FLIR1," "Gimbal" and "GoFast," were originally released by To the Stars... Academy of Arts & Sciences, which was co-founded by the "Aliens Exist" singer.
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UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
https://rumble.com/v2skms2-ufos-are-real-pentagon-whistleblower-says-u.s.-in-possession-of-alien-space.html
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TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution (Movie Trailer)
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution (Movie Trailer)
An in-depth look at the whistleblowers who sparked a UFO revolution, revealing evidence that the government knows much more than they’re letting on.
Watch for free here:
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution
https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution
UFO Revolution: Episode 1
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044921/s01-e01-the-breakthrough
UFO Revolution: Episode 2
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044922/s01-e02-the-truth-seekers
UFO Revolution: Episode 3
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044920/s01-e03-the-possibilities
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution (Movie Trailer)
https://rumble.com/v47e5vz-tmz-presents-ufo-revolution-movie-trailer.html
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution Promo Page
https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/09/ufo-promo-tmz-documentary-ufo-transparency-threatened/
See also:
Jeremy Corbell on X
https://twitter.com/JeremyCorbell
Jeremy Corbell on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyCorbell/videos
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UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 1) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-1
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 2) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-2-talon-thresher
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 3) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-3-david-grusch
UFOs Go Mainstream (Daily Mail)
https://rumble.com/v46w84u-ufos-go-mainstream-daily-mail.html
Tucker Carlson On UFOs & Nonhuman Beings From Somewhere Else
https://rumble.com/v42rzrw-tucker-carlson-on-ufos-and-nonhuman-beings-from-somewhere-else.html
Dr. Robert Malone & UFO/UAP Investigator Justine Isernhinke Discuss Recent UFO/UAP Developments
https://rumble.com/v32x9sw-dr.-robert-malone-and-ufouap-investigator-justine-isernhinke-discuss-recent.html
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
https://rumble.com/v32nebc-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-uap-national-security-public-safety-govern.html
Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
https://rumble.com/v31fzpe-jeremy-corbell-on-fox-news-ufo-hearings-in-congress-next-week-will-be-histo.html
UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
https://rumble.com/v2skms2-ufos-are-real-pentagon-whistleblower-says-u.s.-in-possession-of-alien-space.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1510 - George Knapp & Jeremy Corbell
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Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1iexdv-joe-rogan-experience-1315-bob-lazar-and-jeremy-corbell.html
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https://rumble.com/v1irsi3-joe-rogan-experience-1597-joe-rogan-interviews-travis-walton.html
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What Jesus Told Near-Death Experiencer Howard Storm About Aliens & Life On Other Worlds
Howard Storm was born October 26, 1946, in Flushing, New York. He is a former art professor and chairman of the art department at the Northern Kentucky University. Before his near-death experience, Storm reports that he was not a pleasant man. He was an angry atheist that was hostile to every form of religion, as well as those who practiced it. He considered all spiritual belief systems to be fantasies created by deluded people. He knew with certainty that the material world was all that existed. He would often use rage to control the people around him and didn’t find joy in anything. On June 1, 1985, at the age of 38, Storm suffered a perforation of the stomach, which led to his death and a profound near-death experience. When he returned to this world, he was a changed man. He is best known as the author of “My Descent Into Death” which details his near-death experience. Storm’s NDE is regarded as one of the most complete accounts of distressing near-death experiences ever recorded. It includes dramatic encounters with evil spirits, a trip to hell, a rescue by Jesus, and extensive conversations with Jesus and a group of angels. Storm’s NDE has been cited frequently in near-death studies literature. His book was originally published in 2000. Storm has told his story to numerous audiences and appeared on NBC’s Today Show, The Oprah Winfrey Show, 48 Hours, Discovery Channel and Coast to Coast AM. Storm was so deeply affected by his near-death experience that he resigned from Northern Kentucky University and became a United Church of Christ minister.
In this video, Howard Storm tells Kevin Moore about a conversation he had with Jesus in which he asked Jesus about life on other worlds:
“They (Jesus and the angels) were very hopeful. What they want is for us to ultimately come to heaven to grow and to evolve in heaven to become beautiful spiritual beings like they are. Ultimately, our ambition is to become more and more like Christ…
“I asked about life on other planets. Jesus said the universe was full of life. There was an incalculable amount of life and intelligent life on other planets. I asked him, ‘What do they look like?’ He said, ‘Here, I’ll show you.’ And he paraded images of beings from other planets. The parade began with human-like beings and as the parade went by, they became more and more different than us. Finally, I was looking at people that looked more like undersea creatures or insects and I said, ‘OK, that’s enough. I don’t want to see anymore.’ It’s getting a little weird. It was creepy…
“I asked Jesus [if he had visited other planets] and he said that he has been everywhere. He’s been to every planet. Not the Jesus of Nazareth Jesus. He didn’t go there as a young male, Jewish guy. He went in their form. He was relatable in every world that he was in…"
Original, full-length, unedited YouTube interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKemocF4PNE
To learn more about Howard Storm:
http://ndestories.org/howard-storm/
To learn more about near-death experiences:
What Near-Death Experiences Teach Us
http://the-formula.org/resources/what-near-death-experiences-teach-us/
The Formula For Creating Heaven On Earth
https://theformulaforcreatingheavenonearth.com
The Wisdom Of Near-Death Experiences On Twitter
https://twitter.com/nhneneardeath
Outstanding Near-Death Experiences
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellownde
Outstanding Near-Death Experience Resources
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowndemisc
Near-Death Experiences Absolutely, Positively NOT Caused By Malfunctioning Brains
https://theformulaforcreatingheavenonearth.com/ndes-absolutely-positively-not-caused-by-malfunctioning-brains/
Near-Death Experiences From Around The World
https://the-formula.org/nde-accounts/
Historical & Cross-Cultural Near-Death Experiences
https://the-formula.org/historical-cross-cultural-near-death-experiences/
The Purpose Of Life As Revealed By Near-Death Experiences From Around The World (Book)
https://thepurposeoflife-nde.com/
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1797012037/nhne-20
500 Quotes From Heaven: Life-Changing Quotes That Reveal The Wisdom & Power Of Near-Death Experiences (Book)
https://quotesfromheaven.com/
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B08H5C9Z6Z/nhne-20
NDE Stories
http://ndestories.org/
Encounters With Jesus
https://encounters-with-jesus.org/
Encounters With Jesus On Rumble
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowjesus
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UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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Tucker Carlson: The Prevailing Theory Behind Cattle Mutilation Is Extraterrestrial Activity
April 16, 2022 - WARNING: Graphic imagery - The Bearded Butchers try to make sense of the practice of cattle mutilation on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'
Original Link:
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6304087146001
See Also:
UFOs and Extraterrestrials:
http://sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
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NewsNation On Classified 01/12/24 UFO Congressional Briefing (Includes 'Jellyfish' UFO Videos)
NewsNation reports on the Friday, January 12, 2024, classified UFO Congressional Briefing.
NewsNation Video One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVBDE0fqyOE
NewsNation Video Two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm25gxx3oQk
NewsNation Video Three:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkF7bA46l2M
NewsNation Video Four:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYWsTYDpU0
NewsNation Website:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/
See also:
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 1) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-1
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 2) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-2-talon-thresher
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 3) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-3-david-grusch
UFOs Go Mainstream (Daily Mail)
https://rumble.com/v46w84u-ufos-go-mainstream-daily-mail.html
Tucker Carlson On UFOs & Nonhuman Beings From Somewhere Else
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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
https://rumble.com/v32nebc-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-uap-national-security-public-safety-govern.html
Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
https://rumble.com/v31fzpe-jeremy-corbell-on-fox-news-ufo-hearings-in-congress-next-week-will-be-histo.html
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Joe Rogan Experience #1510 - George Knapp & Jeremy Corbell
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Joe Rogan Experience #1597 - Joe Rogan Interviews Travis Walton
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https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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UFOs Go Mainstream (Daily Mail)
EXCLUSIVE: CIA's Secret Office Has Conducted UFO Retrieval Missions On At Least NINE Crash Sites Around The World, Whistleblowers Reveal
By Josh Boswell, Chris Sharp, and Matt Ford
Dailymail.Com
December 5, 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12796167/CIA-secret-office-UFO-retrieval-missions-whistleblowers.html
A secretive CIA office has been coordinating the retrieval of crashed UFOs around the world for decades, multiple sources told DailyMail.com.
One source said that at least nine apparent 'non-human craft' have been recovered by the US government – some wrecked from a crash, and two completely intact.
Three sources briefed on those alleged top secret operations told DailyMail.com that the Office of Global Access (OGA), a wing of the Central Intelligence Agency's Science and Technology Directorate, has played a central role since 2003 in orchestrating the collection of what could be alien spacecraft.
The three sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals, have all been briefed by individuals involved in those alleged UFO retrieval missions.
Though the shocking claims sound like they come from a science fiction novel, they are part of a growing body of evidence suggesting the US government could indeed be hiding advanced vehicles that were not made by humans.
Former top intelligence officer David Grusch told Congress as much in an explosive public hearing in July.
The same month, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer sponsored an extraordinary bill to allow disclosure of 'recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence' – which has now passed in the Senate.
Sources who spoke to DailyMail.com shed light on how the CIA has allegedly coordinated the secret recovery and storage of these alleged crashed or landed UFOs.
'There's at least nine vehicles. There were different circumstances for different ones,' one source briefed by UFO program insiders told DailyMail.com. 'It has to do with the physical condition they're in. If it crashes, there's a lot of damage done. Others, two of them, are completely intact.'
The source said the CIA has a 'system in place that can discern UFOs while they're still cloaked,' and that if the 'non-human' craft land, crash or are brought down to earth, special military units are sent to try to salvage the wreckage.
Another source with knowledge of the OGA's role said that they specialize in allowing the US military to secretly access areas around the world where they would usually be 'denied' – for example behind enemy lines.
'They are basically a facilitator for people to get in and out of countries,' the source said. 'They are very clever at being able to get anywhere in the world they want to.'
Multiple sources briefed on the OGA's activities told DailyMail.com that most of its operations involve more conventional retrieval missions, such as stray nuclear weapons, downed satellites or adversaries' technology.
But they claimed some missions coordinated by the OGA have involved retrieval of UFOs.
'The task at hand is simply to get it into custody and protect the secrecy of it,' one source said. 'The actual physical retrieval is by the military. But it's not kept under military control, because they have to keep too many records. So they start moving it out fairly quickly into private hands.'
Documents published by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) in December 2016 showed that the OGA was one of 56 offices in the CIA, with its chief and deputy making up two of a total 286 director-level officials in the spy agency.
An unclassified organizational chart published by the CIA in October 2015 lists the OGA among nine offices in the 'Science and Technology' wing of the agency.
Late CIA expert Jeffrey Richelson wrote in a 2016 book on the agency that the OGA was established in 2003, and cited a CIA description that it 'integrate[s] analysis, technology, and tradecraft to attack the most difficult targets, and to provide worldwide collection capability.'
A 255-word biography of former OGA deputy director Doug Wolfe, published by an aerospace conference in 2017, says that he 'helped start the Office of Global Access'.
Wolfe's bio cryptically adds that he 'was responsible for leading and managing strategic, unwarned access programs that deliver intelligence from the most challenging denied areas' and 'served as program manager with responsibility for the end-to-end system acquisition of an innovative new source and method for the IC [Intelligence Community].'
Two sources told DailyMail.com that the OGA coordinates with Special Operations Forces such as SEAL teams or Delta Force under the Pentagon's Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), or nuclear weapons experts such as the Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST), to collect the crashed or landed craft.
But another source, who has briefed members of Congress on alleged crash retrievals, said that NEST had not been involved in any of these operations.
A spokesperson for the agency also denied involvement.
'[NEST] personnel encounter materials from unknown origins on a regular basis,' a spokesperson said. 'In fact, one of NEST's missions is to help determine the origin of nuclear material interdicted outside of regulatory control or used in a nuclear device.
'During its operations, NEST has never encountered any material related to UAP.'
In a written statement, a JSOC spokesperson told DailyMail.com: 'We have nothing for you on this.'
A former SEAL team member told DailyMail.com that they had been on operations coordinated by the CIA to retrieve high-value stray enemy weapons, and that they knew of colleagues who had been on similar operations where they recovered technology that appeared highly advanced – though not necessarily out-of-this-world.
'Absolutely that happens,' the ex-SEAL said. 'Even ordinance or a weapon that we've never seen, we recover and bring it back.'
One source said that the Air Force Special Operations Command's 24th Special Tactics Squadron, based at Pope Field Army Airbase in North Carolina, has also been involved in securing areas for UFO crash retrievals.
Sources said the CIA office then often hands the wreckage or material over to private aerospace contractors for analysis, where it is not subject to rigorous government audits and can be shielded with protections for trade secrets.
'The CIA is the portfolio manager or owner of the UAP [Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena] crash retrieval operation,' one source, who has shared their information with Congress, told DailyMail.com.
'The Department of Energy national labs are materials analysis contractors whenever recovered radioisotopes are involved but not always just radioisotope materials. The aerospace-defense industry are also contractors that specifically do not handle any recovered radioisotopes, but they handle the other non-radioactive material – and intact craft.'
Multiple sources said that many of the people involved in these programs may not even realize they are dealing with non-human craft, due to the intense security and compartmentalization of information in such top secret programs.
In an interview on Wednesday with podcaster Joe Rogan, whistleblower David Grusch gave an example of engineers in the Manhattan Project of the 1940s not realizing they were working on fuses for the atom bomb that would eventually be dropped on Japan.
Late Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told the New Yorker in 2021 that top defense company Lockheed Martin was one of the private contractors holding potentially alien wreckage.
'I was told for decades that Lockheed had some of these retrieved materials,' he said.
As majority leader, Reid was one of the 'Gang of Eight', a select group of top lawmakers given access to the country's most closely held secrets too sensitive to share widely in Congress.
But even he was denied access to these alleged programs, he told the magazine.
'I tried to get, as I recall, a classified approval by the Pentagon to have me go look at the stuff. They would not approve that. I don't know what all the numbers were, what kind of classification it was, but they would not give that to me.'
Reid helped set up a new UFO investigation office in the Pentagon in 2008 to probe the regular encounters US military pilots and other armed forces members had with strange objects in the sky and sea.
In June, former top intelligence officer Grusch came forward with claims that while working for the Pentagon's UFO office he discovered the US had a secret program trying to glean new technology from multiple 'non-human' craft it had obtained, dating as far back as the 1930s.
The former National Reconnaissance Office staffer's claims were deemed 'urgent and credible' by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, whom Grusch says he gave documents evidencing his story, and introduced to around 40 witnesses involved in the alleged 'reverse engineering' UFO programs in July 2021.
Earlier this year Senate Intelligence Committee ranking member Marco Rubio told TV news station NewsNation that he had spoken to some of these 'first-hand' program insiders, who allegedly worked to glean new technology from potentially alien captured craft.
'There are people that have come forward to share information with our committee over the last couple of years,' Rubio said in the June 26 interview.
'Some of these people still work in the government. A lot of them are very fearful. Fearful for their jobs, fearful for their clearances, fearful of their career. Some of them are fearful of harm coming to them.
'Most of these people, at some point or maybe even currently, have held very high clearances and high positions within our government.
'Some of these claims are things that are beyond the realm of what any of us has ever dealt with.
'If it's even partially true, then somebody's broken the law. There's been some violations. Because these things have to be disclosed to Congress.'
Top lawmakers appear to be taking seriously the claims of UFOs hidden in secret bunkers.
Senate leader Schumer co-sponsored a bill to create a review board with presidential-level powers, with the aim of uncovering and disclosing any non-human craft or even bodies, held by the US government.
It requires all government agencies to turn over evidence of any 'recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence' to a panel of experts, who can then choose to make the information public.
The Senate has voted in favor of Schumer's bill. If passed in the House of Representatives, it will be added as an amendment to the annual military spending bill for 2024.
'The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena,' Schumer said in a July press release announcing the amendment.
Missouri Republican congressman Eric Burlison, part of an informal caucus of lawmakers campaigning for greater transparency on UFOs, told DailyMail.com that the sources' claims gave him and his colleagues a lead to follow in their investigations.
'These are the kind of specific programs we've been trying to get the names of,' he said. 'It's been so difficult because we can't get that information with specifics from Grusch or from the [Intelligence Community] Inspector General.
'I can't confirm it's true. But it certainly gives us a trail to follow.
'I think that if it does exist, even if they give us no information beyond that, I think we owe it to the world to disclose that.'
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UFO whistleblower held secret talk with 'Wall St bigwigs' and CIA officials in Manhattan - where he claimed US was in possession of 40ft Tardis-like craft that was 'the size of a football field when you stepped inside'
By Stacy Liberatore and Matthew Phelan
Dailymail.Com
January 10, 2024
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12943153/ufo-whistleblower-secret-talk-wall-street-nyc.html
A UFO whistleblower shared new details of a Tardis-like craft in government possession during a secret meeting in New York City.
Decorated former Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch claims his sources worked on a 40-foot UAP that 'was the size of a football field' when they stepped inside, according to an attendee at the event.
The object could manipulate both space and time and use and could harness enough energy to power 70,000 homes a year, the source said.
DailyMail.com understands that guests included officials from the FBI, CIA, Department of Homeland Security, tech entrepreneurs and Wall Street 'bigwigs.'
All in, Grusch gave the talk to 60 people at a penthouse in Manhattan, and photos were banned from the event.
The only information about the meeting was leaked by an anonymous attendee who took pictures of Grusch.
DailyMail.com has since verified that the meeting took place and was told by sources that Coinbase advisor John D'Agostino and high-powered attorney John J. Altorelli hosted the event.
Coinbase is a publicly traded company that operates a cryptocurrency exchange platform.
The two men are said to host monthly events at the penthouse apartment, focusing on different topics.
The leaker said: 'It was hosted by a Wall Street bigwig and his lawyer friend.
'It was sort of a small saloon-style talk. David also did it for free. Even went as far as to fly into NYC just for this.
'He had arrived only a few hours beforehand and then left 1st thing the next day.
'The idea was to get a group of both skeptics and believers from all these different walks of life for a talk regarding David and the things he has said.
'Most of the people who left had left as believers.'
Grusch has made headlines since June 2023, when he claimed the Vatican is aware of the existence of non-human intelligences (NHIs) and helped the US retrieve a downed UFO from Italian dictator Benito Mussolini at the end of the Second World War.
The former intelligence official then gave sworn testimony in front of Congress in July, where he and two other military whistleblowers shared details about firsthand encounters or knowledge about secret government programs involving technology that is 'non-human.'
At the hearing, Grusch claimed the US has been in possession of UFOs since 'the 1930s' but said in New York that the government has taken 'part in a fair amount of crash retrievals before 1933,' according to the attendee's summary.
Grusch is also believed to have said that no more than 50 people know the full scale of the phenomenon.
During July's hearing, the former intelligence officer also suggested the US government has murdered people as part of the conspiracy to keep UFOs a secret.
And those claims were repeated during the recent presentation.
'Multiple people involved in not only his investigation but also his fellow peers in the UAP task force, such as Jay Stratton, were also threatened,' reads the post.
'He wouldn't go too much into it since it's an open investigation, but these people pretty much showed him that they could touch him or his family any time they wanted.'
Stratton is the former head of the US government UFO task force.
He and his chief scientist, Travis Taylor, spilled the secrets of their official probe into a swarm of objects that buzzed around a fleet of eight Navy ships off the US West Coast in July 2019.
Speaking at AlienCon in Pasadena on March 5, Stratton and Taylor said their investigation left them fearing Russia or China could have achieved incredible drone battery technology – but ruled out quadcopters launched from submarines that somehow evaded the Navy's best radar just miles from the mainland.
Grusch is also claimed to have revealed that one of the US's adversaries was set to disclose their non-human intelligence to beat America to the punch.
Attendees of the secret event were also allowed to ask questions following the presentation.
While the exact questions are not known, it is believed they asked what aliens may look like and where they are from in the universe.
Grusch shared that the world would not be surprised to hear extraterrestrials look the typical gray and that 'there is also a chance that they are extra-dimensional,' according to the anonymous attendee's post.
'That it could also just seem this way because of the technology they use rather than them being actual extra-dimensional beings,' they continued.
Grusch is also said to have revealed he and other officials were taught how to track UAPs in the atmosphere - there is a unique frequency or signature that the craft gives off.
'Apparently, it was the only private non-government talk he had done so far,' the individual shared in the Reddit post that has since been deleted, likely due to cameras being barred.
'As for how I feel about everything after hearing him speak.
'He is extremely smart, I mean, he has an almost unbelievable memory and knowledge about intel laws and other things that have to do with UAPs.
'My opinion is that he is the real deal.
'Almost everyone left that night fully believing what he was saying or, at the very least, that HE believed what he was saying as the truth.'
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Pentagon Says No Evidence Of Alien Technology: NewsNation Says Pentagon Report "A Complete Joke"
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Pentagon UFO office finds 'no empirical evidence' for alien technology in new report
By Brett Tingley
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https://www.space.com/pentagon-ufo-office-aaro-historical-report-no-emprical-evidence-alien-technology
"All investigative efforts, at all levels of classification, concluded that most sightings were ordinary objects and phenomena and the result of misidentification."
The Pentagon's UFO office has once again stressed that it has found no evidence of alien technology in the skies, in space or crashed in the American desert.
The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) was created to help the U.S. government study and resolve reports of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), a new term that includes UFOs not only in the sky but also in space as well as under water, or even those that appear to travel between these domains.
On Friday (March 8), the office released its long-awaited "Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) Volume I." The report is sure to cause controversy among the UAP disclosure movement that argues the U.S. government does, in fact, know a lot more about alleged alien presence than it publicly admits.
"AARO found no evidence that any USG [U.S. government] investigation, academic-sponsored research, or official review panel has confirmed that any sighting of a UAP represented extraterrestrial technology," the report's executive summary notes.
While the report notes, importantly, that many UAP reports remain unsolved or unidentified, it adds that AARO believes this is mainly due to a lack of data. If more and/or better quality information were available, many of these sightings could be identified as "ordinary objects or phenomena," AARO's report states.
"The vast majority of reports almost certainly are the result of misidentification and a direct consequence of the lack of domain awareness; there is a direct correlation between the amount and quality of available information on a case with the ability to conclusively resolve it," AARO writes.
NASA's UAP study team reached similar conclusions in its first public report, which was published in September 2023. "The NASA independent study team did not find any evidence that UAP have an extraterrestrial origin, but we don't know what these UAP are," NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said at the time.
AARO's report goes on to state that, despite widely publicized claims made in a July 2023 congressional hearing that included testimony from former U.S. military and intelligence community personnel, the office found no evidence suggesting the U.S. government is in possession of crashed or reverse-engineered alien technology, nor that any hidden "UAP reverse-engineering programs" actually exist, either in the U.S. government or in private industry.
"AARO determined, based on all information provided to date, that claims involving specific people, known locations, technological tests, and documents allegedly involved in or related to the reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial technology, are inaccurate," the report states. These claims are mostly "the result of circular reporting from a group of individuals who believe this to be the case, despite the lack of any evidence," it adds.
Sean Kirkpatrick, the former head of AARO, published an op-ed in Scientific American on Thursday (March 7) arguing that while it is important for the U.S. government to study UFOs, it needs to do so from a scientific perspective and without resorting to conspiracy theories.
"Many outside observers nonetheless have criticized AARO as supposedly part of a continuing government cover-up of the existence of aliens," Kirkpatrick wrote in the op-ed. "Interestingly, they have not provided any verifiable evidence of this, nor are some of the more outspoken willing to engage with the office to discuss their positions or offer up the data and evidence they claim to possess."
Instead, Kirkpatrick wrote, these critics have relied on secondhand reporting without "rigor in their critical thinking."
The former AARO chief conceded that the report's conclusions are sure to be criticized by those who believe the Pentagon and private aerospace companies possess crashed alien technology that they are hiding from the public, but notes that his former office has given every opportunity for witnesses and whistleblowers to come forward with any evidence they might have.
"While those who came forward have provided valuable information (albeit not of extraterrestrials or cover-ups), those who chose to instead titillate the national interest only stir division and hatred against the credible men and women of AARO who are working faithfully to address this mission," Kirkpatrick wrote in the op-ed.
However, according to some accounts, many U.S. government or military personnel who refused to share their eyewitness testimony with AARO.
"This report is not going to satisfy critics in part because there are many witnesses who did not trust AARO and would not speak with them," says Christopher Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence in the Clinton and Bush administrations.
"However, what I find most concerning is the false conflation in some news coverage of the assertion 'There is no recovered alien technology' with the notion that 'we don't have evidence of craft doing things beyond our present understanding of science and technology,'" Mellon told Space.com via email. "In fact, hundreds of credible military reports remain unexplained and are continuing to pour in."
Mellon added that "the public needs to understand why it is imperative to continue to aggressively investigating UAP, for both national security and science, regardless of the accuracy of this report."
AARO's new report goes on to list U.S. military and space programs that could have accounted for some UAP sightings. At least "some portion of these misidentifications almost certainly were a result of the surge in new technologies that observers would have understandably reported as UFOs," the report states.
Some of the examples include Project Mogul, a high-altitude balloon program designed to spy on Soviet nuclear tests that reportedly was responsible for a balloon crash outside of Roswell, New Mexico. That incident led to the widely known story of a crashed flying saucer that persists to this day.
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The AARO report points out that UAP sightings and beliefs that UFOs represent alien technology have tended to spike at times of growing concern about national security and technological surprise, such as during the Cold War. The report found that at least some UFO sightings since the 1940s represent "never-before-seen experimental and operational space, rocket and air systems, including stealth technologies and the proliferation of drone platforms."
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GREEN BANK, W.Va. — It came from space, hurtling at tremendous speed: a mystery object, reddish, rocky, shaped like a cigar. Its velocity was so extreme it had to have come from somewhere far away, in the interstellar realm. The astronomers in Hawaii who spotted it in 2017 named it 'Oumuamua, Hawaiian for "a messenger from afar arriving first."
But what was it, exactly? A comet? An asteroid?
Or maybe … an alien spacecraft?
That conjecture incited headlines, as well as eyerolls from most scientists. But here in West Virginia, the people involved in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence -- commonly called SETI -- decided to aim a giant radio telescope at it, just to be sure.
Aliens are having a moment. Fascination with the concept of extraterrestrial visitors isn't new, but it has enjoyed a 21st-century efflorescence. Military pilots have seen things that look otherworldly. The Pentagon has established an office to look into the sightings. Congress has held hearings. Even NASA got into the game, training the cool logic of science onto a scorching-hot cultural topic.
Somewhere along the line, UFOs got rebranded. Unidentified flying objects are now, per government edict, unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs).
For SETI researchers, the hypothetical existence of aliens is foundational. Nestled in the remote mountain town of Green Bank, the National Radio Astronomy Observatory has a role in one of the most ambitious SETI projects, called Breakthrough Listen. The project buys time on the towering Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, which has a steerable dish 300 feet in diameter. If there are aliens transmitting radio signals anywhere near us in the galaxy, that big dish is all ear.
Confirming an alien radio signal would be possibly the most consequential and disruptive scientific discovery of all time. SETI scientists have no doubt that the search is worth the effort.
"I think if we didn't do that, and turned our back on our cosmological neighbors, that would be a sad thing for me," David MacMahon, the chief scientist on Breakthrough Listen, said this fall during a visit to Green Bank.
That's why the Breakthrough Listen team pointed the big telescope at the mystery object 'Oumuamua, listening for signs of intelligent life.
"It was absolutely silent," reports Matt Lebofsky, lead engineer on the project.
Silence: That is all astronomers have heard since the first SETI search was conducted at Green Bank in 1960.
Only a small fraction of our galaxy has been studied. Absence of evidence, as everyone knows, is not evidence of absence. Aliens may not consider radio waves to be a useful or dignified way to communicate. They could be pathologically shy. Or, at least with the kind of technology we have today, they could be just a little bit out of range.
For whatever reason, SETI has not found anyone out there, and at some point the silence could get deafening.
The physicist Paul Davies has written that SETI is a search for a needle in a haystack without knowing if the needles are really there.
All possibilities remain in play. Including the possibility that we are alone.
UAPs and the renewed alien obsession
One day circa 1950, the physicist Enrico Fermi was talking with fellow scientists about flying saucers and whether it might be possible, in theory, for an advanced alien species to cross the vast expanses of the galaxy by traveling faster than the speed of light.
Suddenly Fermi erupted: "But where is everybody?"
Thus was born "the Fermi Paradox." The universe is big and old, and it is highly plausible that alien civilizations have evolved, based purely on statistical probabilities. Fermi posed his question in an era of technological revolutions, including computers and rocketry. It seemed possible humans would master space travel and explore the cosmos. So why, he asked, is there no compelling scientific evidence that extraterrestrials have visited Earth?
Perhaps the simplest explanation for the Fermi Paradox is that there's no paradox at all: They're here!
The idea that mysterious things seen in the sky are alien spaceships has proved remarkably resilient. It has had some ups and downs and is now in an up phase. It has found a warm reception recently in the halls of Congress, where the hypothesis has enjoyed bipartisan support amid a push for government disclosure of whatever anyone might know about extraterrestrials.
"The American public has a right to learn about technologies of unknown origins, non-human intelligence, and unexplainable phenomena," Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said this summer.
Republicans in the House convened a headline-grabbing hearing in July at which a former Air Force intelligence officer testified that he had been told that the United States is in possession not only of crashed spacecraft of "non-human" origin but also alien "biologics." This is a relaunch of the 1947 Roswell, N.M., crashed-saucer story, rising Lazarus-like to annoy skeptics anew.
In September, a journalist in Mexico garnered global headlines by displaying to Mexico's Congress what he claimed were the thousand-year-old mummified corpses of two three-fingered aliens. Mexican scientists scoffed, appalled at the reputational damage caused by what one professor called "a pseudoscientific event, which appeals to our fantasies, desires, and fears."
The scientific community views the recent UAP mania as a cultural phenomenon, not an astrobiological one. There's not much here that meets the standards science requires, such as evidence that is testable, reproducible, falsifiable.
That's impossible with the conjectured existence of alien spaceships that have the amazing ability to disappear. And if someone says there's alien hardware stashed in a warehouse somewhere, scientists want to see it, and poke and prod it and bite it and gnaw on it for a while.
There have been many sightings of UAPs by credible witnesses, including military pilots. Some remain unexplained and could have national security significance if the objects in question involve new technologies from foreign adversaries. But official government reports -- including one from a special NASA task force -- say there is no evidence that any of these things involve extraterrestrials.
SETI researchers occupy a unique and awkward niche amid the debate. Aliens, though hypothetical, are the reason they go to work. But they have chosen not to include an investigation of blurry, stealthy, here-and-gone UAPs as part of their mission, MacMahon said.
"SETI is not a belief system," MacMahon said. "It's a scientific methodology."
The math that says Earth is no miracle
For SETI experts, two arguments grounded in science bolster the conjecture that aliens are surely out there somewhere: Big Numbers and the Copernican principle.
The Big Numbers argument notes that our galaxy, the Milky Way, has something like 400 billion stars, and it's just one of untold billions of galaxies in a universe that might be infinite. Moreover, in the past 30 years, astronomers have discovered that planets of all shapes and sizes are common in the universe.
With so much turf out there, even the most frowny-faced skeptic must admit it's hard to run the numbers in a 13.8 billion-year-old universe like ours and wind up with just one self-aware, technological, telescope-constructing species.
The Copernican principle is inspired by 16th-century astronomer Copernicus, whose revolutionary model of the solar system put the sun and not Earth at the center. The principle suggests that, in the same way that Earth is not in a privileged place in the universe, humanity should not presume itself special, or unique. The universe is not about us, and what happened on this planet over the past 4 billion years could happen elsewhere.
"Otherwise you have to believe that Earth is a miracle. I don't," said Seth Shostak, an astronomer at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, Calif. "It's just never true that you only find one example of something in nature."
Shostak is right, with an asterisk: So far, science has found only one example of a habitable planet with intelligent life. Despite decades of hunting for signs of another civilization, in scientific parlance, N=1.
In 1960, here in Green Bank, radio astronomer Frank Drake made the first attempt to pick up alien signals, aiming a telescope at two nearby sun-like stars. "Project Ozma" produced one brief false alarm, but otherwise the stars remained silent. The following year Drake developed an equation that has since guided the debate about the abundance of detectable communicative civilizations.
The Drake Equation includes a host of variables, some of which we have started to measure (the rate of star formation, the fraction of stars with planets, the average number of potentially habitable planets among such stars) and others that are as-yet unknown (the fraction of planets that have life, the fraction that have intelligent life, etc.). Pioneering SETI astronomer Jill Tarter has described the equation as a wonderful tool for "organizing our ignorance."
The discovery of exoplanets injected new optimism into the equation. There's surely an Earth twin out there somewhere. The closest thing found so far, according to planet-hunting NASA astrophysicist Knicole Colón, is Kepler-452b, a planet 1,800 light-years away. It orbits in the "habitable zone" of a sun-like star, which means water could be liquid on its surface. It's not our galactic doppelgänger, however: It is 50 percent larger than Earth, putting it in a class known as a "super-Earth."
The James Webb Space Telescope is also probing the intriguing Trappist-1 planetary system, which has a gaggle of rocky planets that deserve a closer look. And detection technology will keep improving as NASA and the global astronomy community build a new generation of space telescopes designed to find and analyze even more Earth-like planets.
"I do think it's impossible for Earth to be the only place with life, even if it's just bacterial or microbiological life," Colon said, adding, "I would be shocked if we were the only intelligent civilization out there."
Penn State astrophysicist Jason Wright, who heads the university's Extraterrestrial Intelligence Center and who has consulted with Breakthrough Listen, notes that intelligence has arisen in many distantly related species on Earth. Consider octopuses: They're savvy, know how to escape an aquarium and are only distantly related to humans.
But the evolution of complex life is fraught with unknowns. Emily Mitchell, a paleobiologist at the University of Cambridge, points out that, while there is fossil evidence of life on Earth at least 3.5 billion years ago, no large multicellular creatures appeared until about 600 million years ago. Life on Earth took roughly 3 billion years to learn to crawl.
"I think there's a massive, massive difference between being able to find life elsewhere, and being able to find evidence of intelligent life and being able to contact them," Mitchell said.
What it means to be alone
At Green Bank, Jay Lockman is a sage presence, a former director of the observatory who is eager to discuss all angles of radio astronomy — including SETI. He thinks it is "silly" to say we are alone in the universe.
"There's no killer barrier in the Drake equation that we know of," he said.
But Lockman adds a caveat: If intelligence evolves on a world covered entirely by an ocean, "you wind up with all these super-intelligent dolphins who will never build a radio transmitter."
Which raises a philosophical question: What do we mean when we ask "Are we alone?"
The bible for alien-life pessimists is the 2000 book "Rare Earth: Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe," by Peter D. Ward and Donald E. Brownlee. The controversial book argued that Earth is unusually blessed with conditions that make complex life possible, such as having the giant planet Jupiter in just the right spot to run interference against dangerous comets.
But the book does not argue there are no aliens out there. Here's where the debate gets subtle. Ward told The Washington Post that he assumes aliens do exist somewhere in the vast universe, but we'll never know because they're just too far away to make contact. We're not literally alone, in his scenario, but we're functionally alone.
"The chances that there's one close enough to ever interact with is vanishingly small," Ward said.
Which is an unsatisfying situation. We are a social species. And finding others out there would give us hope, demonstrating that this remarkable evolutionary adaptation of intelligence is sustainable and is not ultimately self-destructive.
We are not looking for alien algae, alien trilobites, or even alien dolphins. We're looking for some version -- perhaps a better version -- of ourselves.
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Dr. Robert Malone & UFO/UAP Investigator Justine Isernhinke Discuss Recent UFO/UAP Developments
https://rumble.com/v32x9sw-dr.-robert-malone-and-ufouap-investigator-justine-isernhinke-discuss-recent.html
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) - National Security, Public Safety, Government Transparency
https://rumble.com/v32nebc-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-uap-national-security-public-safety-govern.html
Jeremy Corbell On Fox News: UFO Hearings In Congress Next Week Will Be 'Historic'!
https://rumble.com/v31fzpe-jeremy-corbell-on-fox-news-ufo-hearings-in-congress-next-week-will-be-histo.html
UFOs Are Real! Pentagon Whistleblower Says U.S. In Possession Of Alien Space Craft & Pilot Bodies
https://rumble.com/v2skms2-ufos-are-real-pentagon-whistleblower-says-u.s.-in-possession-of-alien-space.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1510 - George Knapp & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1ifd99-joe-rogan-experience-1510-george-knapp-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
https://rumble.com/v1iexdv-joe-rogan-experience-1315-bob-lazar-and-jeremy-corbell.html
Joe Rogan Experience #1597 - Joe Rogan Interviews Travis Walton
https://rumble.com/v1irsi3-joe-rogan-experience-1597-joe-rogan-interviews-travis-walton.html
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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Emanuel Swedenborg: Conversations With Beings From Other Planets
Original YouTube Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHKcQE1EbRA
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Who Was Emanuel Swedenborg?
Emanuel Swedenborg (1688 – 1772) was a Swedish scientist, philosopher, theologian, revelator, and Christian mystic. He is best known for his book on the afterlife, Heaven and Hell (1758). Swedenborg had a prolific career as an inventor and scientist. In 1741, at the age of 53, he entered into a spiritual phase in which he began to experience dreams and visions, beginning on Easter weekend of April 6, 1744. This culminated in a “spiritual awakening,” in which he received revelation that he was appointed by the Lord to write a heavenly New Church Doctrine to reform Christianity. According to the New Church Doctrine the Lord had opened Swedenborg’s spiritual eyes, so that from then on he could freely visit heaven and hell, and talk with angels, demons and other spirits. Swedenborg’s spiritual experiences lasted for 29 years until his death at age 84. Along with his remarkable spiritual and scientific accomplishments, Swedenborg is considered to be one of the most intelligent human beings to ever live.
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Swedenborg’s Influence
“The most remarkable step in the religious history of recent ages is that made by the genius of Swedenborg.”
— Ralph Waldo Emerson
“I admire Swedenborg as a great scientist and a great mystic at the same time. His life and work have always been of great interest to me.”
— Carl Jung, Psychologist
“For you Westerners, it is Swedenborg who is your Buddha, it is he who should be read and followed!”
— D. T. Suzuki, Zen Buddhist Scholar
“The correlations between what Swedenborg writes of some of his spiritual experiences and what those who have come back from close calls with death report is amazing.”
— Raymond Moody, author of Life After Life
“People who have had near-death experiences peek through the door of the after-life, but Swedenborg explored the whole house.”
— Kenneth Ring, NDE Researcher and co-founder of International Association for Near Death Studies, Inc. (IANDS)
“Let me explain why Swedenborg merits scrutiny. It is a fact that the greatest poets and prose writers have borrowed liberally from him. The list is long: first Blake, as his direct spiritual descendant; then Goethe, a fervent reader of Swedenborg (as was Kant followed by Edgar Allan Poe, Baudelaire, Balzac, Mickiewicz, Slowacki, Emerson, Dostoevsky….)”
— Czeslaw Milosz, 1980 Nobel Prize, Literature
“Swedenborg’s message has meant so much to me! It has given color and reality and unity to my thought of the life to come; it has exalted my ideas of love, truth, and usefulness; it has been my strongest incitement to overcome limitations.”
— Helen Keller
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Other Planets
By Emanuel Swedenborg
https://swedenborg.com/product/other-planets-nce/
Building on the eighteenth-century fascination with the possibility of life on other worlds and with traveler’s tales of other cultures, this work describes life on other planets in our solar system and elsewhere in the universe. Swedenborg undertook this work specifically to demonstrate that Jesus is God not just of planet Earth but also of the universe as a whole.
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Life On Other Planets
https://swedenborg.com/emanuel-swedenborg/explore/life-on-other-planets/
In his short work Other Planets, which has also been published under the title Earths in the Universe, Emanuel Swedenborg tackles head-on the question of extraterrestrial life. But rather than speculating on physical encounters with alien life-forms, he instead reports on spiritual encounters with extraterrestrial beings—that is, meetings in the afterlife with spirits who, during their lifetimes, lived on other planets.
As a methodical thinker steeped in the sciences, Swedenborg seems to have anticipated that some would find it hard to believe what he wrote about life on other planets:
“If you know nothing of heaven’s secrets, you might not be able to believe that anyone could see such distant planets or report anything about them on the basis of direct experience. Be aware, though, that spaces, distances, and consequently movement from place to place in the spiritual world are, in their origins and first causes, inner changes of state, and that to angels and spirits, these spaces, distances, and movements appear in accordance with those inner changes. Further, spirits and angels can by this means appear to be taken from one place to another and from one planet to another, even to planets that are at the edge of the universe. The spirit of a person in this world can also do this, even while the person’s body remains in the same place. . . . The fact that our spirit can travel in this way is not something sense-oriented people can grasp, because they are immersed in space and time and measure their journeys by these criteria.”
In the book, Swedenborg describes the lives of the people who live on these other planets, providing details of their society, their homes, their clothes, and their relationships. While he consistently refers to the spirits he meets as human (see below), he describes their physical appearance as very different from ours, with it varying from place to place or even among individuals from the same planet…
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All About Emanuel Swedenborg
http://the-formula.org/all-about-emanuel-swedenborg/
Emanuel Swedenborg Quotes
https://the-formula.org/emanuel-swedenborg-quotes/
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https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
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https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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Bill Clinton Sent People To Area 51 To See If Aliens Were Being Kept There
The Clinton Files: I Sent Agents To See If There Were Aliens At Area 51 & Scientists Tell Me We Are NOT Alone, Says Bill Clinton
By Henry Holloway
The U.S. Sun
June 17 2022
https://www.the-sun.com/news/5582334/bill-clinton-aliens-area-51-ufos/
BILL Clinton admitted he sent agents to Area 51 as he wanted to know if there were aliens on the base.
The former United States president also revealed scientists told him they are up to 95 percent sure humanity is not alone in the universe.
Bill Clinton, 75, was speaking about the traditionally fringe topic on The Late Late Show as discussions around UFOs take center stage in Washington DC.
Strange phenomena in the sky were once the realm of conspiracy theorists, but now US lawmakers and intelligence officials are taking the topic seriously as a national security concern.
US officials have admitted there are objects in the sky which they do not understand - which are now more commonly called Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP).
When Late Late Show bandleader Reggie Watts asked about the topic, the audience laughed, only for Bill to turn to them and say: "That's a legitimate question now."
Clinton - who held the big job in the White House from 1993 to 2001 - revealed he and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger were interested in UFOs.
"We made every attempt to find out about Roswell and we also sent people to Area 51 to make sure there were no aliens," he said.
Clinton was interrupted by James Corden, who asked who he sent to Area 51, and then joked: "Oh, if I told you that."
The veteran Democrat continued and revealed Berger was dispatched to Area 51.
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Original YouTube Vide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQNevl2BuxM
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
http://sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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Former Arizona Governor Fife Symington On Phoenix Lights UFO (From 2016)
Exclusive Former AZ Gov Fife Symington on Phoenix Lights UFO -- The Interview You Haven't Seen
OpenMindsTV writes on March 31, 2017:
In 2006, former Arizona governor Fife Symington admitted to being a witness to Arizona's most famous UFO sighting, and that he believed it to be of extraterrestrial origins. His statements made worldwide news. In association with the celebration of the 20th anniversary of the Phoenix Lights UFO event, James Fox, the documentarian that first obtained Symington's confession shared never before seen footage from the interview during his presentation at the 2016 International UFO Congress. Now, with Fox's permission, we present the interview here for our readers.
In the newly released footage, Symington says he believes the UFO sighting was escalated up the chain of command.
"Issues like this go up the chain of command all the way to the Pentagon," explains Symington. "We called the Pentagon…I think they knew there had been sightings, but they weren't talking about it."
As for the official Air Force response that the UFOs were flares, Symington says that is "total bunk."
"I have seen high altitude flares before. There is no way they were flares."
When it comes to what flew over Phoenix in March of 1997, Symington says, "It has never been explained."
What is now referred to as "The Phoenix Lights," was a flap of UFO sightings on March 13, 1997. It has kept Arizona buzzing ever since. Over 1000 witnesses reportedly came forward, including former Arizona Governor Fife Symington.
Symington first admitted to seeing the object during this interview with Fox. Fox provided Symington with testimony from several witnesses who were disappointed with the way Symington dealt with the incident in 1997. Symington then admitted to Fox he had also seen the object, and he agreed it was unworldly. Fox was not expecting this response.
After the interview, news of Symington's confession leaked and he was asked to share his experience with CNN and other news outlets.
View James Fox's entire UFO Congress presentation here:
https://openminds.pivotshare.com/media/james-fox-the-phoenix-lights-20-years-later%3A-meet-the-witnesses-and-hear-new-information/59734
Fore more about James Fox and his latest UFO documentary, visit:
http://www.701themovie.com/
Fore more information about the UFO Congress, visit:
http://ufocongress.com/
Original YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2ZW96F_UWs
See also:
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution
https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution
UFO Revolution: Episode 1
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044921/s01-e01-the-breakthrough
UFO Revolution: Episode 2
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044922/s01-e02-the-truth-seekers
UFO Revolution: Episode 3
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044920/s01-e03-the-possibilities
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution (Movie Trailer)
https://rumble.com/v47e5vz-tmz-presents-ufo-revolution-movie-trailer.html
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Behind Enemy Lines (Part 1) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-1
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 2) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-2-talon-thresher
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 3) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-3-david-grusch
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - We Need Disclosure On UFOs
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. writes:
Former intelligence officer and UFO whistleblower David Grusch recently testified before Congress claiming the government is holding back information about UFOs. I’m glad Capitol Hill is taking the matter of disclosing information about UFOs seriously; the American people deserve to know if information about UFOs is being kept from the public and what it entails. When I’m president, I’ll disclose all information about UFOs with the public unless there’s a compelling reason not to do so. Thanks to @thehill Rising for the conversation.
Original youTube Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu1CMHkLXnc
See also:
UFOs & Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow On Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Videos On This Rumble Channel
https://rumble.com/playlists/HJb11HpZcKw
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. For President
https://www.kennedy24.com/
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On X
https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On Rumble
https://rumble.com/c/RFKjr
Children's Health Defense Website
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/
Children's Health Defense On X
https://twitter.com/ChildrensHD
Children's Health Defense On Rumble
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The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, And The Global War On Democracy And Public Health (Book)
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The Wuhan Cover-Up: And The Terrifying Bioweapons Arms Race (Book)
https://amzn.to/494KmtZ
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Hello Down There (Squarespace Super Bowl 2024 Commercial Directed By Martin Scorsese)
What does a highly advanced civilization have to do to get noticed around here? Watch the extended cut of Hello Down There, a tale of intergalactic outreach, directed by Martin Scorsese.
Video 1:
Hello Down There (Extended) - Directed by Martin Scorsese | Big Game Commercial 2024 | Squarespace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp5v3-3Hc-E
Video 2:
Marty & Francesca Make a Website
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_33RvpEK-E&t=233s
See also:
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
https://www.sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution
https://tubitv.com/series/300002259/tmz-presents-ufo-revolution
UFO Revolution: Episode 1
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044921/s01-e01-the-breakthrough
UFO Revolution: Episode 2
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044922/s01-e02-the-truth-seekers
UFO Revolution: Episode 3
https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/200044920/s01-e03-the-possibilities
TMZ Presents: UFO Revolution (Movie Trailer)
https://rumble.com/v47e5vz-tmz-presents-ufo-revolution-movie-trailer.html
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Behind Enemy Lines (Part 1) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-1
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 2) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-2-talon-thresher
Behind Enemy Lines (Part 3) by Justine Isernhinke
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/behind-enemy-lines-part-3-david-grusch
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Tucker Carlson Interviews Nick Pope About "The Roswell Before Roswell"
Former UK Ministry of Defense official Nick Pope discusses a bill that would require the Department of Defense to review historical documents related to an alleged 1945 UFO sighting on 'Tucker Carlson Tonight.'
Original Fox News Video:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6318562159112
See Also:
UFOs and Extraterrestrials
http://sunfellow.com/ufos-extraterrestrials/
Sunfellow on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
https://rumble.com/c/sunfellowufo
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