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Post Office Lawyer CONFRONTED with evidence he LED prosecutions
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh is CONFRONTED with evidence by Jason Beer KC at the Post Office Inquiry that he in fact LEAD prosecutions against subpostmasters throughout the period that he says all responsibility was handed over to legal firm Cartwright King.
Despite his previous denials of involvement or supervision, Jarnail Singh identifies himself in questions from Brian Altman QC as THE decision maker in the cases in 2014.
Jarnail Singh is also asked about a policy meeting where he appears to have involvement in both then-current Post Office Prosecution Policies as well as proposals for new policies.
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Post Office Lawyer says DEFENCE Barristers kept him in check
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh says DEFENCE Barristers kept him in check with the Post Office Prosecution Policy as he explains the monitoring in place at the Post Office to ensure that he stuck to the policy when orchestrating the prosecution of subpostmasters.
He is quick to point out that as 'policy owner' he did not create, contribute to, maintain or oversee the policies - even once he became the only criminal lawyer in the Post Office following its separation from the Royal Mail Group.
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Post Office Lawyer - Subpostmasters should have detailed Horizon bugs
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh tells the inquiry that he was just trying to 'help' and 'do favours' for Seema Misra's legal team when he suggested Subpostmasters should have detailed lists of Horizon bugs that they have encountered in response to a disclosure by her legal team to the audit data from Fujitsu Horizon to prove that a loss had even occurred.
He suggested that the fact they hadn't provided the Post Office with a 'defence statement' listing Horizon issues as a defence would 'damage the credibility' of their client in trial, seemingly avoiding the disclosure requested in the letter sent to him.
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Post Office Lawyer REVERSED the Burden of Proof!
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh has it put to him that he REVERSED the Burden of Proof back onto accused subpostmasters and asked why he didn't request crucial audit data from Fujitsu to prove whether a loss had even occurred!
He does admit that he was wrong to do this but despite saying that he had read the Court of Appeal's judgement in Jo Hamilton's case was still suggesting in October 2023 that it was down to the Defence to request the evidence that they wanted rather than for the Post Office to proactively obtain it as part of a thorough investigation.
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Post Office Lawyer admits 'foolproof' Horizon could go wrong
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh admits that 'foolproof' Horizon machines could go wrong but is seemingly not able to explain to Jason Beer KC at the Post Office Inquiry why he didn't make an attempts to verify the accuracy of Horizon data that he was provided beyond getting someone to sign a witness statement saying it was installed and running perfectly.
Whilst admitting that audit data should have always been sought, he struggles to explain how the Post Office could even prove that had a loss had occurred without it saying that he relied on the auditors to check the information.
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Post Office Lawyer ADMITS that he was the decision maker!
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh admits to Jason Beer KC, after much deflection, that he WAS the decision maker on subpostmasters prosecutions when asked if he would have to refer his advice on to someone else for them to make a decision at the Post Office Inquiry.
Despite previously distancing himself from responsibility for the cases, he now suggests that he did indeed play a role in deciding whether there was sufficient evidence for the prosecution of a subpostmaster and whether there was a realistic prospect of conviction.
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Post Office Lawyer accused of 'Rewriting History' in COVER UP
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh is accused of 'Rewriting History' as multiple pieces of evidence expose potential untruths from his witness statement to the Post Office Inquiry.
As temperatures rise during the testimony Jarnail Singh can be seen to be tapping his witness statement claiming that it's all in their and it makes it the truth - despite growing evidence that the Post Office Inquiry has obtained to the contrary.
Unrattled, Jason Beer KC puts his conclusions to Jarnail Singh asking if he's 'Rewriting History' because he didn't follow the correct procedures and handling of witnesses or prosecution cases.
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Inquiry Chair FED UP with Post Office Lawyer NOT answering questions
Inquiry Chair FED Up with Post Office Lawyer NOT answering questions as Jason Beer previously advises him to stick to the questions he's asking rather than going off on tangents about 'other stuff'.
Not heeding this warning, Chair of the Post Office Inquiry Sir Wyn Williams dramatically intervenes saying 'what more evidence do I need that he [Jenkins] was an expert other than what you've just said'.
Jarnail Singh says that he cannot think as fast as Jason Beer KC and the Post Office Inquiry takes a break to allow him to 'prepare himself'.
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Post Office Lawyer's Expert Statement TORN APART by Jason Beer KC
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh has his Expert Witness Statement to the Post Office Inquiry TORN APART by Jason Beer KC over the status of Gareth Jenkins in the prosecutions and trials of subpostmasters.
Avoiding using the words 'expert witness' he explains that he would have preferred to get a professor but that he couldn't find anyone else who could understand the sophisticated, complex and bespoke system as their non-expert witness with expertise in it.
When the court determined Gareth Jenkins to be an expert, did the Post Office object?
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Post Office Lawyer says witness had non-expert EXPERTISE
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh insists that Gareth Jenkins was a 'witness of fact' because of his 'expertise' but was definitely not an 'expert' despite being able to comment on the 'specialist' Horizon system.
Having gone through the requirements of an expert report with Jason Beer KC, Jarnail Singh agrees with him at the Post Office Inquiry that the reports contained none of the features required of an expert report but he consistently insists that's because they didn't see Gareth Jenkins as an expert at all.
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Post Office Lawyer VAGUELY aware of Expert Reports
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh admits that he's only VAGUELY aware of the requirements for Expert Reports in response to Jason Beer KC at the Post Office Inquiry.
Jason Beer goes through a number of requirements for expert reports which Jarnail Singh says he's aware of 'in general terms' and would have looked into it further if he'd ever instructed an expert in a Post Office prosecution case.
Despite the 'sophisticated' Horizon system being hard to understand, he doesn't recall having required expert witnesses in any Post Office prosecution case of a subpostmaster.
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Post Office Lawyer schooled in Expert Witness requirements
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh is schooled by Jason Beer KC in the requirements of a Expert Witness proposed by a prosecutor in a criminal trial.
Whilst Jarnail Singh agrees with them all, after long pauses, he takes issue with the fact that Gareth Jenkins was considered an expert - he says rather than an expert he was simply the person put forward by Fujitsu as the only person who could possibly comment on such a complicated and 'sophisticated' system as Horizon...
Confused? We don't blame you... When is an expert not an expert?
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Post Office Lawyer becomes SUSPICIOUS about CALENDAR DATES!
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh becomes SUSPICIOUS about CALENDAR DATES whilst being questioned by Jason Beer KC answering 'I don't know' to a question about whether an email sent on 5th February was the Friday before the Monday 8th February court deadline.
Jason Beer KC says that he doesn't want this to descend into disagreement over 'how a calendar works' as Jarnail Singh seems to be becoming increasingly suspicious at the Post Office Inquiry.
Surely, the dates of the year are not going to be denied?
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Post Office Lawyer admits errors SHOULD have ENDED prosecutions
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh admits that any known errors with Fujitsu Horizon SHOULD have ENDED Post Office prosecutions of subpostmasters but isn't clear on whether he ever got the question as to whether there were any known errors answered by Fujitsu in the case of Seema Misra.
Jarnail Singh declares that 'he wasn't the only lawyer' and says that he struggles to remember the rationale behind his emails to Fujitsu and Post Office counsel or whether he followed up and got answers to questions he was asking to disclose to the defence.
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Post Office MISHANDLING of Horizon Disclosure Request
Post Office MISHANDLING of critical known Horizon bugs Disclosure Request to Fujitsu recommended by Warwick Tatford could have resulted in Fujitsu not disclosing all the known errors with the Horizon system to Post Office as part of the evidence for Seema Misra's trial due to a MISCOMMUNICATION of who the request was directed to - Gareth Jenkins or Fujitsu.
Whilst initially the disclosure request is missed entirely, a conversation between Warwick Tatford and Jon Longman referenced in a key email seems to have flagged it but a subtle change of words and 'casual handling' of the case may have led to omissions.
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Post Office Lawyer PASSED ON His Duties to INVESTIGATOR
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh tells the Post Office Inquiry that he PASSED ON his duties to implement counsel's advice in the Seema Misra case to Jon Longman, a member of the investigation and security team despite admitting that it's likely that he wouldn't have completely understood it.
A crucial piece of advice regarding questions for Fujitsu is then not followed up, or missed, leaving a hole in the Post Office prosecution case that no one seemed to spot relating to existing errors that had occurred in Post Office Horizon systems.
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Post Office Lawyer regarded Defence Requests as UNREASONABLE
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh regarded Defence Requests for evidence relating to previous subpostmaster prosecution cases and evidence of bugs with Horizon as UNREASONABLE and UNNECESSARY and hopes to find a quick solution by asking Warwick Tatford for his advice.
Email exchanges between the two are analysed and Jarnail Singh says that he cannot now recall why such requests would have been unreasonable or unnecessary.
Advice is issued suggesting that Fujitsu is asked some questions but did the Post Office look through the documentation they had?
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Post Office Lawyer says he cannot explain in MINUTE detail
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh says that he cannot explain in MINUTE detail why the witness statement provided by Gareth Jenkins from Fujitsu doesn't meet the criteria of an expert report but nethertheless seems to agree that it does not.
Additionally, he says that he is unsure of the instruction given to Gareth Jenkins for meeting with the defence's expert beyond an email where he informs him to meet with him and let him know once it's happened.
He explains that without further context it is difficult for him to answer the questions any further.
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Post Office Lawyer UNSURE about lack of defence disclosure
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh is UNSURE about the lack of defence disclosure regarding the 'locking issue' mentioned by Gareth Jenkins when questioned by Jason Beer KC and the Post Office Inquiry.
Following consultation with his solicitor, Jason Beer KC pointedly asks if he has 'now decided to respond with I don't know and I don't recall' to which Jarnail Singh replies that without further context and given the passage of time it is now hard for him to recall these events.
The locking issue is last mentioned in an email from Fujitsu to Jarnail Singh but is subsequently not mentioned in further communication on the subject nor is it mentioned in the witness statement.
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Post Office Lawyer OMITS Locking Issue from Disclosure
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh OMITS the 'Locking Issue' mentioned by Gareth Jenkins and passed on to the Post Office via David Jones from Disclosure and also seemingly from internal discussions regarding the draft answers to be provided to the defence when emailing Warwick Tatford and Jon Longman following evidence shown to the Post Office Inquiry.
Jarnail Singh stops to consult with his lawyer briefly before answering the question raising an issue relating to the self-incrimination warning previously delivered at the beginning of his evidence by Post Office Inquiry chair Sir Wyn Williams.
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Post Office Lawyer ADMITS mishandling EXPERT witness
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh finally ADMITS mishandling EXPERT witness Gareth Jenkins after being presented with numerous pieces of evidence at the Post Office Inquiry, some that he wrote himself, referring to Gareth Jenkins as being an expert witness in the prosecution of the case of Seema Misra whilst working at the Post Office.
In light of the overwhelming evidence, Jarnail Singh admits that he made an 'error' in not explaining the duties of an expert witness to Gareth Jenkins at any point and agrees that he should have done so.
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Post Office Lawyer admits evidence MISSING from disclosure
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh admits that evidence was MISSING from disclosure to the defence and court in a case of Post Office prosecution against a subpostmaster as email exchanges between himself and others are omitted in addition to drafts of witness statements where there had been 'material changes' to what was said in the finalised version.
Jarnail Singh admits that these should have been included but had to take some time away from the Post Office at the time so this should have been handled by someone else.
Asked about what steps he took to ensure that this would be the case, he says that the case was constantly under review.
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Post Office Lawyer made aware of FATAL FLAW in prosecution
Post Office Lawyer Jarnail Singh is made aware of a FATAL FLAW in a prosecution case against a subpostmaster by Fujitsu due to missing audit data that has not been requested for the branch in question.
Jarnail Singh describes it as 'essential' that this is pointed out in a disclosure log to the defence and the court - but does such disclosure ever take place?
Jarnail Singh insists that he did everything he could but despite being made aware of issues relating to a lack of data 6 months before by Jon Longman, no progress appears to have been made right up to the court's deadline.
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Post Office Barrister - DAMNED if they do and DAMNED if they don't
Post Office Barrister Richard Morgan KC explains the attendance note to the Post Office Inquiry where it is stated that the Post Office are 'DAMNED if they do and DAMNED if they don't as he outlines the no-win scenario that they have painted themselves into by bringing action against subpostmasters on shaky legal ground.
When discussing the prospect of an independent report in the face of a 'flood of cases' being brought by pursued subpostmasters the attendance note explains that if the expert found no issues with Horizon they would be accused of a "whitewash" and if they did find issues that the 'floodgate of legal cases' would open up.
He tells the Post Office Inquiry that it is fair to advise the Post Office to not commission the report as, essentially, no good can come from it for the Post Office.
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Post Office FEARED a 'Flood of Cases' amid Horizon Concerns
Post Office FEARED a 'Flood of Cases' from subpostmasters amid Horizon Concerns as they sought the advice of Richard Morgan KC who is questioned about the initial meeting between himself, colleagues and Post Office lawyers and General Counsel Susan Crichton at the Post Office Inquiry.
Richard Morgan KC says that he has limited recollection of the meeting although discusses details of the attendance note from the meeting outlining the fears that Post Office had amid the a group litigation being launched by subpostmasters as well as a legal firm preparing dozens of claims against the Post Office in 2012.
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