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Racewide salvation stared me in the face at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1476_The_Three_Dimensional_Reality_of_Racewide_Salvation.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Pharaoh acted magnificently, decisively, and certainly faithfully upon Joseph's interpretation of his dream, spending millions of dollars building grain silos and appointing Joseph the administrator over banking one-fifth of Egypt's produce for seven years against seven years of coming famine—in accord with Joseph's interpretation. Think about the faith this took—upon the part of Pharaoh. Dedicating money and manpower and great discipline during the seven years when, really, nothing was happening, with nothing but the interpretation of a dream to lean upon. All in accord with the promise that seven years of famine were coming, Lo, a greater than Joseph is here. Our dreams are not interpreted, but rather (and better) we have promises from the very mouth of God. Are these promises less sure to be realized than the dream of a heathen king? Let us, then, dedicate everything to this Word of God, in faith and in deed, against the coming fulfillment of all that God has said concerning us. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1475_Building_and_Filling_Our_Storehouses_of_Faith.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

In 2 Corinthians 12, Paul relates the account of a man (himself) snatched away into Paradise (the Third Heaven) by God, where he hears "ineffable declarations that are not allowed a man to speak" (2 Corinthians 12:4). Paul never did speak these secrets. He never revealed them AT THAT TIME. But did Paul, at a later time, record them for the benefit of the saints? The answer, I now believe, is, "Of course he did." MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1474_Did_Paul_Ever_Reveal_What_He_Heard_in_the_Third_Heaven_Yes.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Christians consciously choose verses stating humans to be righteous over verses claiming that no one is righteous. Why? How? MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1473_The_Greatest_Scriptural_Trap_of_All_Time.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Christianity believes that salvation from a human (in cooperation with Christ) is essential. God says (Psalm 60:11) that salvation from a human is futile. I wonder who is right. I'm not myself yet. I tried setting up the studio today, but this was the best I could do. It basically sucks but I fixed it with editing tricks. Don't think I'll be able to swing the studio yet for a while. I'll do what I can. There's still something going on in my mouth; continual pain; follow-up appointment is on Wednesday. Apparently I did myself much damage. Dental work in North Miami is futile. Rob Wile's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUtppFua1xXmGynq3UvIUYw MZ/IB Archive: WCCD Grace Cafe: Christianity Mistranslates Important Words – June 30, Hour 1: https://youtu.be/KecC4bNRjIo?si=ZPs6x5GmE8QaJ4FA MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1472_Salvation_From_Human_is_Futile.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

"For it is not ours to wrestle with blood and flesh, but with the sovereignties, with the authorities, with the world-mights of this darkness, with the spiritual forces of wickedness among the celestials" (Ephesians 6:12) As we will soon be seated among the celestials where we will confront the dark powers, it is important for us to know our enemy. This is being accomplished now, today, by means of the flesh and blood beings among us who are unwittingly operating at the behest of these dark powers. These are the powers that call evil good and good evil. Thus, we are receiving valuable on-the-job training for our future work, and we ought to thank God for this. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1471_The_Secret_of_Lawlessness_Among_Us.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Abscess out. Experience left in. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1470_Death_of_the_Dread_Abscess.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Including a teaching on pain and the Rich Man and Lazarus. Hey Christians, how about bringing a torture that everyone can relate to? MZ/IB Archives - WCCD Grace Café: Scriptural Context Proves Christianity is Wrong -June 29, Hour 2: Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/ Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

I didn’t realize until I was editing this video that I was already starting to talk with a little bit of a lisp because my tooth infection was going from the right side of my throat into my mouth—specifically under my tongue. I woke up at 12:30 am to find the bottom of my mouth so swollen that I couldn’t even stick out my tongue or tuck the tip of it under my teeth. The abscess was pushing my tongue toward the top of my mouth. I was dressing to go to the ER when I started researching abscesses, and I realized that I would PROBABLY not go into sepsis, and that I will PROBABLY still be able to breathe, and so I got back undressed and went to bed. Since waking up at 4 o’clock, the swelling has gone down somewhat. Nevertheless, for your entertainment, I will share with you on Monday a short video I made showing how I was talking during the full-blown mouth invasion. Today’s MZTV is a beautiful/horrible analysis of how religion will drive a man to feats of asceticism that completely ignore and deny the cross of Christ. It is a phenomenon that has captured BILLIONS of people. This is the work of Satan. And this is why Jesus said prostitutes will enter the kingdom before priests. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1468_Confessions_of_a_Hopelessly_Religious_Man.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Even though I reference the Christian book "Every Man's Battle" as the classic religious call to blamelessness, today's message is one of the best you will hear concerning man's desire—apart from Christ—to be like God. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1467_The_Greatest_Revelation_From_the_Book_of_Job.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Those in the religious world lust after DOING things for God. Those of us in whom the spirit of God dwells lust to KNOW Christ and the power of His resurrection—both within us and for the universe. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1466_The_Lust_for_Doing_Vs._the_Lust_for_Knowing.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Learning is a lust greater than sex. But does it necessarily lead to a realization of truth? MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1465_Learning_is_a_Lust_Greater_Than_Sex.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

The most powerful lust in the world is not sexual lust. MZ/IB Archive - WCCD Grace Cafe - Christian Confusion: Eternity Is Not A Long Time – June 29, Hour 1: https://youtu.be/9Rv8UOxat-M?si=gY_kmrH-4xltNMXy MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1464_The_Most_Powerful_Lust_in_the_World.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

The people who insist that we must "accept Christ's free gift or go to hell for eternity," do not accept Christ's free gift themselves. In one of the greatest ironies existent in the world today, Christianity falls headlong into the snare of the cross, dooming themselves to become some of the last humans ever to enter into life. It's a good thing for Christians that there is no such thing as an eternity in hell for those who reject Christ's free gift. This messages was delivered in Des Moines, Iowa, on September 17, 2023. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1463_Christians_Spit_in_the_Face_of_Christ%27s_Free_Gift.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Our Lord warned not to store up treasure on earth because it can disintegrate or be stolen at any moment. "Store up for yourselves treasure in heaven," He said. As far as stored-up treasure in heaven goes, we are the wealthiest people on earth. But no one on earth measures wealth the way we do—or the way God does. The next time you are financially embarrassed, do what I do: stand tall and acknowledge your vast SPIRITUAL wealth. What the world has is going away quickly, but what we have is eonian in the heavens, to be paid in a lump sum in the hour of our glorification. Bonus: two comments from yesterday's video: the best and the worst. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1462_Store_Up_For_Yourselves_Treasure_in_Heaven.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

This is the era, predicted by Paul, wherein believers and feigned believers alike "will not tolerate sound teaching" (2 Timothy 4:3). The word I'm focusing on today is the word "tolerate" (Gr. anechomai), which was also translated in the Concordant Version, "bear with." SOUND teaching is teaching that has stood the test of time, thus making it feel old. Some folks can't bear with (anechomai) antiquity for long (it feels boring and stagnant to them), and thus will "heap up teachers in accord with their own desires, and will be turned aside to myths" (2 Timothy 4:3-4). Myths are new and exciting and can be crafted to suit one's tastes. Myths are malleable. But as such, they do NOT stand the test of time and thus, over time, are exposed. But by the time the myths are exposed (it may take years), they have taken hold upon the hearts of those holding them. (Myths cater to the emotions.) By this time, not even facts will dislodge a myth from those deriving comfort from them. God causes myths to be blown up by competent teachers who would be considered boring and old fashioned were it not for the fact that exposing myths during an era of myths is stressful, depressing, and at times anxiety-producing. Fortunately for the modern learner, teachers afflicted with these maladies, being already quirky, generally become funny—when they're not crying, that is. Add alcohol to the mix, and this all becomes quite entertaining. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1461_Be_Comforted_by_the_Steady_Drumbeat_of_Sound_Teaching.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

In Ephesians 5 and 6, Paul is instructing those saints who happen to be married, or happen to be parents, or happen to be children, or happen to be slaves, how to deport themselves. Paul is not promoting any of these stations in life, as should be evident when one realizes that advice to slaves is included in his instruction. Would anyone imagine Paul to be PROMOTING slavery as an ideal way to live? Of course not. And yet there are two teachers in the body of Christ today, namely Clyde Pilkington and Stephen Hill, who passionately insist both in articles and in books that, here in Ephesians, Paul is promoting marriage and parenting as "the advanced will of the Lord for today." Because these men specialize in patriarchy (they publish other articles and even books on this topic) and focus on family life, they want EVERYONE to be patriarchs and to focus on family life. It is not merely that marriage and parenting are noble enterprises, but that these enterprises have moved "front and center," and are actually "the focus of our era." Yes, and not only that, but "the advanced will of the Lord for today." Anyone, then, wanting to live "the advanced will of the Lord for today," and reading the writings of these men, would feel compelled to be married with children. Otherwise, they could not be very advanced. Anyone reading Paul's earlier letter of 1 Corinthians, specifically chapter 7, will realize that Paul would prefer everyone to be like him, that is, single and unencumbered. The reason is easy to understand (for most people); it is so both men and women might be "undistracted for the Lord." Paul takes pains to point out that married people must focus on each other and would therefore be unable to focus entirely on Christ. This is timeless truth. But while Paul would prefer body members to be single, he does not insist on it, for he is aware of the human need for sexual relations. Pilkington and Hill reject the entire letter of 1 Corinthians as containing any advice for us today. Why so radical of a disposition? Because in 1908 a man named Charles Welch decided that Paul's letters should be surgically dissected from themselves. Where would be the cut? At the line of Acts 28:28, when Paul was in prison. Who decided this again? Charles Welch. What authority did this man have to do such a thing? None. What happened at Acts 28:28 that was so important? Nothing to justify Paul's canon being so crudely dissected. Paul merely repeated to some representative Jews come to Rome what had been said before, that they were a stubborn people (not exactly headline news there) and that God had already gone to the nations ("to the nations WAS dispatched this salvation of God"—Acts 28:28), a common fact which had occurred thirty years before at the call of Paul on the road to Damascus. God's new attitude toward the nations was unmistakably (at least it's unmistakable to most people) provided for when our Lord died on the cross and the veil in the temple was divinely rent—thus obliterating, in probably less than one second, the Jews' monopoly on access to God. THIS was the dividing line between divine Jewish preference and divine Jewish rejection—not some dull, one-sentence history lesson uttered by Paul to a handful of Israelites. But back to Ephesians. To say that advising wives, husbands, and children how they ought to behave is commensurate with PROMOTING marriage and parenthood—and not only promoting it but insisting that these institutions are "the advanced will of the Lord for today"—one would also have to say that, since Paul is also advising slaves in this same context, then Paul must also be promoting slavery as "the advanced will of the Lord for today." But since we know that Paul would never do that, then neither is he promoting marriage and parenting as such. And yet Pilkington and Hill still insist that he is. How do these men deal, then, with slavery in this same context? Deceitfully. In their articles, they change "slavery" to "employment," wash their hands and walk away, hoping, apparently, that no one will notice the sleight-of-hand. Based on the evidence and the hiding of evidence, the body of Christ must reject this selfish, unscriptural teaching. In no way is Paul promoting marriage and parenting in Ephesians 5, no more than he is promoting slavery. Paul is merely instructing those who happen to be in these stations how to deport themselves as believers. Paul's advice in 1 Corinthians chapter seven concerning his wish for believers to remain single if they can, stands. Otherwise, Paul would be, in Ephesians, encouraging saints to BE distracted for the Lord—the very thing he warns against in Corinthians. This is impossible. ZWTF 4.19: A Defense of the Expectation of the Body of Christ, Part 1: THE PRESENT ERA: https://martinzender.com/ZWTF/ZWTF4.19.pdf MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1460_Did_You_Know_That_Slavery_Was_the_Advanced_Will_of_the_Lord_For_Today.mp3

In one of the most deceptive statements that a body of Christ teacher can make, Clyde Pilkington teaches that marriage and parenting are “the focus of our era,” and “the advanced will of our Lord for today.” Isn’t it a shame that the apostle Paul could not live the advanced will of our Lord for today? By insisting that Paul’s advice in 1 Corinthians to avoid marriage if one can in order to be undistracted for the Lord contradicts Paul’s later advice in Ephesians to marry and have children (Paul NEVER ADVISES ANYONE in Ephesians to marry and have children), Mr. Pilkington at the same time relegates the snatching away of the body of Christ to a bygone era. I’m not sure which came first: the desire to keep the saints from being snatched away from their homes and families, or the desire to make marriage and parenting (Clyde also writes a newsletter about patriarchy) the "focus or our era" and the "advanced will of our Lord for today." If one’s PERSONAL focus is marriage and parenting, then it would certainly benefit one spiritually—at least in the eyes of others—if one could convince these others that marriage and parenting are “the advanced will of our Lord for today.” I mean, who would not want to portray oneself as living the advanced will of our Lord? Again, how unfortunate for the apostle Paul and for the unmarried and childless in the body of Christ today. Clyde has meticulously fashioned an artificial Scriptural distinction between 1 Corinthians and Ephesians (between singleness and marriage) in order to glorify his personal bent (I'm not even saying he's doing this consciously) and to keep himself and his family on this earth practicing it. If patriarchy one’s thing, then fine. If one wants to live in this fantasy world of marriage and parenting being “front and center” and “the focus of our era,” and “the advanced will of the Lord for today,” then fine. But when one contorts Scripture in order build and then maintain this fantasy SO AS TO PASS IT ON TO OTHERS AS "SCRIPTURAL," well, then those of us who realize that Paul’s marriage advice never changes and that the snatching away is to be the glorious expectation of all body members of all eras—we must vehemently object and expose the construct. MZ/IB Archive - WCCD Grace Cafe - Eons: Exposing the Hell Lie in Bible Translating (June 28 - Hr 2): https://youtu.be/8VvMK251g2c?si=m-JJV0IaGjT0ySJ7 ZWTF 4.19: A Defense of the Expectation of the Body of Christ, Part 1: THE PRESENT ERA https://martinzender.com/ZWTF/ZWTF4.19.pdf Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Do married people have worries and troubles in this life, or should we relegate this statement of Paul's in 1 Corinthians 7 as belonging to a bygone era, to a time when the Corinthians were suffering persecution? (As if we are not suffering persecution today in hundreds of refined and, really, worse ways. The more we look into Paul's early marriage advice in 1 Corinthians 7, the more we realize its timelessness, and the more we notice the embarrassing interpretative gymnastics employed by the Acts 28 and the "we-all-must-die" crowd, trashing Paul's earlier advice and teachings, in turn removing the snatching away from their expectation, in turn giving them an excuse to make family life their be-all/end-all, and in turn hoping for their grandchildren to deliver stirring eulogies at their flower-effused funerals. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1458_Do_Married_People_Have_Worries_and_Afflictions_Yes_Or_Yes.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

In this edition of MZTV, not only will you learn what "to be on fire" specifically refers to (in 1 Corinthians 7:9), but you will learn the proper translation of 1 Corinthians 7:26. Where the KJV has "the present distress," the Concordant Literal New Testament (CLNT) has, "the present necessity." Wow, what a difference. Instead of their being some first-century persecution underway causing Paul to dispense unnatural marriage advice, we discover "the present necessity" to be something far more common, simple, and timeless. You will not hear this interpretation anywhere else. As a bonus, I share with you the very moment on August 17, 1969, when the heavens convulsed and the earth followed suit—when the last shreds of innocence (albeit the liberated variety) appeared and then disappeared in the middle of a deep purple night. For those who were there, an era became bygone with the swish of chiffon and the angel-like whoosh of white leather fringe. A camera at the bottom of that hill (that rural New York farm-mound) caught the convulsion, backlit though it was, and set it to celluloid. Can you, a mere mortal, see the disappearing corona? It surrounds Rose Stone, who is completely unaware of it. Yet when she and her family step off this plywood dais, the apocalyptic dawn is officially upon us. MZTV 48: What Does God Think About Pre-Marital Sex?: https://youtu.be/AOdJeEFG2uE?si=XB0f3E_mjQtSITQv MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1457_Sex_Talk_9_What_Does_To_Be_On_Fire_Mean.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

We are told by Christian scholars that either a persecution of the saints or the supposed coming indignation forced the apostle Paul's marital advice in 1 Corinthians chapter 7, especially when he encourages believers to remain single. Clyde Pilkington takes this to the next level, insisting that the advice here is not only obsolete, but that it belongs to a different era, and that now believers are to marry at every opportunity, seize the day—family-wise—and use up the world as much as they can. What Mr. Pilkington and the Christian scholars have in common is that they both use the KJV. Mr. Pilkington's use of this error-ridden version is worse and less excusable, however, as he knows there's a better version available—the Concordant Literal New Testament. But he cherry-picks the KJV when needed to forward his "Family First" agenda. In opposition to all this, I contend to you that Paul's marital advice of 1 Corinthians is timeless, and that there was NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER between the advice given to the Corinthians and that to the Ephesians some thirty years later. This is probably part one of three. THE BEST OF MARTIN ZENDER: by Subject (Christopher Perry's Playlist): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsw1xK5-g3H7ksQ3sYJ-ByA/playlists/playlists MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1456_Is_Paul's_1_Corinthians_7_Marital_Advice_Obsolete.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Those who teach that Christ's return is probably hundreds of years away MUST divorce Paul's earlier epistles from his latter ones. Why? Because it was Paul's earlier epistles (1 Corinthians and 1 Thessalonians) where he revealed the secret of the snatching away of the body of Christ and that those body members alive at the return of Christ will not be put to repose. This is bad news to those who are afraid of the snatching away and who would dread being removed from their families, and so they must concoct teachings that relegate Paul's early letters to a bone-heap of the past. Two of the teachings subserving this purpose are: 1) The Acts 28 Theory, and 2) The Pre-Millennial Kingdom Theory. Clyde Pilkington embraces both of these theories, taking the further step of claiming that Paul's marriage advice of 1 Corinthians is NOT his marriage advice of Ephesians. But Clyde makes a critical mistake when teaching that Paul's advice in 1 Corinthians 7:29 ("...let those having wives be as though not having them") would cause husbands not only to lose their wives but to grieve the holy spirit of God. AS IF Paul would EVER give marital advice to husbands that would cause such destruction. Simply because Paul gives marital advice in Ephesians does NOT mean that Paul intends for marriage and family life to now be the pinnacle of a spiritual walk. And yet this is the artificial construct of those who MUST divorce the Ephesians Paul from the 1 Corinthians Paul in order to make the snatching away of the body of Christ disappear. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1455_Paul_Instructs_First-Century_Husbands_How_to_Lose_Their_Wives.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Mercifully, God has given us a message of grace to sustain us and help us survive this era and eon. But at its core, this is NOT an era or eon of grace, but an era of suffering (Romans 8:18) and an eon of wickedness (Galatians 1:4.) It is an eon of wickedness that CONTAINS a message of grace. Clyde Pilkington, a dear friend and teacher in the body of Christ, desperately wants this eon to go on for another ten thousand years. This is due to his belief that the era spoken of by Paul in his early epistles is not the era we're living in now. Mr. Pilkington has bought into a theory that cuts Paul's letters in half, relegating the early half to a different era than the latter half. It is not difficult to demonstrate from Scripture the unworkability of this theory. Clyde's motivation for wanting this era to continue is that he is a comfortable, happy family man convinced that marriage and child-bearing are the highest spiritual attainment in this life. This being the case (in Clyde's theology), why would God want to interrupt something so beautiful and holy? This myopic vision selfishly ignores the greater problems of suffering and death that have plagued the human race since Adam. Not only that, but it ignores the TEMPORARY nature of the eon (explained by Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 7) and the groaning for deliverance (Romans 8:23) implanted by God into every member of Christ's body. Well—every member except Clyde Pilkington, that is, and those who have grasped onto his teaching that this era is "limitless" and that we're all guaranteed to die. If anyone has been seduced by this false teaching, I implore you to watch this presentation of MZTV and the next two presentations. I will be proving to you the gross error of this position, and showing you the expectation that the apostle PAUL wants for the members of Christ's body. SPOILER ALERT: It is not an expectation of death. MZ/IB Archive - WCCD Grace Café Series: Christ is Greater Than Adam (June 28 - Hour 1): https://youtu.be/u8v2pcmZfRU?si=I7lSBIVBLV5RNJkk MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1454_I_Love_Clyde_Pilkington_But_This_Has_Gone_Too_Far.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

Jesus told a parable about a man who set out to build a tower but failed to calculate the cost. Adverse circumstances got the best of him and he could not complete the project. His tower, therefore, sat in an abandoned shambles for years and years (forever, actually), leaving the builder to be ridiculed by all passers-by as a first class fool. This is the EXACT portrait painted by the Christian religion of God. These people are not only poor representatives of the true God but, as brainwashed sycophants, stubbornly worship their homemade "deity" as a success—in spite of His obvious and embarrassing failure. Even atheists see through this sham. MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1453_Is_God_Smart_Enough_to_Finish_What_He_Started.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/

1) The New Jerusalem descends to the New Earth from heaven. 2) The tabernacle in the wilderness, built by Moses, was based on a heavenly model shown him by angels on Mt. Sinai. 3) There is a worship system ("divine service") in the celestial realm just as there is on earth. Based on these Scriptural facts: Is there a city, a worship system, or even a temple of some kind AMONG THE CELESTIALS (where we are going) that exceeds by thousands or even millions of times the city, the worship system, and the temple prescribed by God here on earth? As exceedingly large and magnificent are the heavens compared to earth, would not the divine counterparts (indeed, the MODELS) of these things be so much more magnificent than anything earth could possibly accommodate? MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1452_Is_There_a_Celestial_City_Even_More_Magnificent_Than_the_New_Jerusalem.mp3 Martin's homepage: https://www.martinzender.com Buy Martin's books: https://starkehartmann.com/