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Jeffrey Sachs: The Israel–Hamas "Peace" Deal Is an ILLUSION;
Timestamped Summary - Interview with Judge Napolitano:

- 00:00:09 - Judge Napolitano introduces the topic: Donald Trump, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, and Tony Blair's Gaza peace plan, asking Professor Sachs for his analysis.

- 00:00:27 - Sachs confirms there will apparently be a sustained ceasefire, which is good news that the fighting may stop after Israel has murdered 67,000 people since October 8, 2023.

- 00:01:02 - Israel has starved hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza, with many children dying daily from starvation on an ongoing basis.
00:01:25 - The ceasefire may include an exchange of hostages: those held in Gaza by Hamas and other militia forces, and those held by Israel in much larger numbers.

- 00:01:42 - Up to 2,000 Palestinian hostages seized by Israel from Gaza and other areas may be released in this deal.

- 00:01:58 - Israel has exhausted itself and "certainly has exhausted the patience of the world with this mass genocidal bloodletting" over the last two years.

- 00:02:14 - Sachs emphasizes that everything else in the so-called peace plan is not agreed and "will never be agreed" - the real politics only begin after fighting stops.

- 00:02:28 - The core political issue: Israel with US backing has rejected a State of Palestine for decades, while the world community has overwhelmingly called for Palestinian statehood.

- 00:02:50 - The UN General Assembly has called for a State of Palestine with more than 90% of world countries voting yes on multiple occasions, including just weeks ago.

- 00:03:15 - This plan isn't really a plan beyond the immediate ceasefire - there's "a lot of gobbledygook" but no resolution of core political issues.

- 00:03:39 - The fundamental question is whether there will be a State of Palestine, or whether the US will continue to "divide, suppress, scare, bribe, twist arms of the Arab world to Israel's will."

- 00:04:04 - Sachs asks if the Arab world will finally stand up after "basically a century of abuse by the British and the Americans, starting at the end of World War One until today."

- 00:04:54 - Today's exhaustion, disgust, and global pressure against "Israel's genocide" may be what's finally ending the bloodletting, giving hope for change.

- 00:05:39 - Sachs argues Hamas was never the real issue - it was just "the convenient bumper sticker for a genocidal maniac" to justify mass murder in Gaza.

- 00:06:06 - Hamas is one militant group fighting Israel's occupation, but in the context of a real Palestinian state being created, "Hamas would not be an obstacle to peace."

- 00:06:47 - If a State of Palestine were actually achieved according to international law, "Hamas does not play any central role in this drama."

- 00:07:18 - Regarding Jared Kushner's involvement: "Everything's possible in our weird world" with "flagrant corruption, self-dealing, insider dealing" around Trump that "goes without notice."

- 00:07:51 - Everyone "swarming around the Trump world operates with insider dealing, corruption, nepotism" as "par for the course of the Trump White House."

- 00:08:13 - Many American companies have gotten rich "selling cloud services and AI and genocidal targeting to the Israeli Defense Forces" - it's been a good year for Silicon Valley.

- 00:09:11 - What's important is that something better may happen "not dictated any longer by a pathetic United States" which has "abetted Israel's extremism for decades."

- 00:09:49 - The whole world is "just disgusted by Israel" with marches of hundreds of thousands across Europe - this global pressure "is what might change things, not Jared Kushner or Donald Trump."

- 00:10:33 - When asked why Palestinians would trust Netanyahu, Sachs clarifies: "Nobody trusts Netanyahu" - the agreement was reached with the US, Egypt, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other countries.

- 00:11:22 - Hamas is exhausted from mass slaughter, Palestinians want food before mass starvation kills them, so they want fighting to stop - but they're not disarming and giving full trust.

- 00:11:42 - This is "a call to stop the bloodletting" with no political agreement - Palestinians are counting on multiple Arab countries signing on to at least stop the fighting.

- 00:12:25 - Sachs reveals that the former head of Israeli military intelligence said at the beginning that "for every Israeli that died, 50 Palestinians should be killed."

- 00:13:00 - With approximately 1,200-1,300 Israelis killed on October 7th, the 50-to-1 ratio yields a target of around 64,000 Palestinian deaths - a number reached in recent weeks.

- 00:13:51 - Israel may have calculated "their mass bloodletting has been accomplished" and there's no more purpose to continue now that they've hit their death quota.
- 00:14:14 - Sachs notes "a certain primitiveness in the Israeli mentality" - Israel acts "like a 10th century BC theocratic state" that committed repeated genocides in the Old Testament.

- 00:14:53 - The bloodletting had no purpose and "this ceasefire could have been reached two years ago" since Netanyahu admitted Hamas as a fighting force ended soon after the invasion.

- 00:15:35 - Most of what happened since then "has been sheer bloodletting" that's "vile, repulsive, genocidal, against international law" - possibly following a 50-to-1 death formula.

- 00:16:23 - Regarding Israel's suffering: "A lot of Israeli society has really become deranged" with "a kind of bloodlust" as the dominant mentality during this period.

- 00:16:52 - Netanyahu pursued genocide over hostage release, but there's "no evidence that in Israeli society there has been any widespread concern about the genocide itself."

- 00:17:21 - All Israeli attention focused on the 20 remaining Israeli hostages while Israel holds at least 2,000 Palestinian hostages that "no one in Israel would care at all about."

- 00:17:43 - There's been "almost no discussion in Israeli society about the mass killing of Palestinians" - the number one fact of the last two years.

- 00:18:00 - Sachs has not seen "a moment of Israel coming to grips with its murderous approach and the fact that it has become a despised nation in the world."

- 00:18:23 - The societal cost of "a country that cheered on a genocide and to this moment can't reflect honestly on it is tragic beyond measure for that society."

- 00:18:43 - This represents "a kind of destruction of Israel as a normal society" that "will take years or decades to overcome" with "not even a start of that at this moment."

- 00:19:24 - Sachs distinguishes two things: (1) immediate ceasefire, hostage release, and emergency aid has a reasonable chance; (2) the rest of the 20-point plan is "a bunch of nonsense."

- 00:20:12 - There's only one way to have peace: what the overwhelming majority of the international community, the ICJ, and decades of international law say - a State of Palestine alongside Israel.

- 00:20:52 - Many ask why there should be two states when Israel has "proven itself incapable of being a civil society" - while understandable, a one-state solution won't bring peace.

- 00:21:13 - There are 8 million Israeli Jews and 8 million Palestinian Arabs who "each need their place to live" - trust and living together will take years or decades.

- 00:21:34 - More than 90% of the world says two states with known borders per international law - "that could happen tomorrow if Trump would change American policy."

- 00:22:00 - The real question: "Will today's ceasefire hold for a while? It could, but it's not a peace plan" - next steps depend on international law prevailing over US Zionist lobby control.

- 00:22:33 - Poll results show 82% believe the plan won't hold, 12% undecided, only 6% yes - Sachs agrees viewers are well-informed, clarifying fighting may stop temporarily but this isn't a peace plan.

- 00:23:01 - Sachs concludes: "Temporary peace gives us the chance to get American foreign policy back in American hands" - the real work for actual peace still lies ahead.
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